[sasnofear]

due to not needing a .17HMR any more i wanna buy a semi auto instead. dont have money for custom, need 2 be factory made.

anny suggestions on Magtech,Marlin,Remmy,Ruger. needs to be basic, cant affort the likes of ruger target or things with laminate stocks etc! trying 2 convert money here but 2 give u guide line a remmy 593 basic over here is £160, my budget is £200

i was interested in remmy 593 but its meant 2 be unreliable & lot have apparently broken down. Ruger...apparently no accuracy whatsoever?

p.s, if any1 suggests i get a .22mag or bolt action, i will throattle them! its a .22lr semi-auto im after.

[4v50 Gary]

Target model Ruger 10/22.

As to the accuracy issue, I'm not aware of the 10/22 having that problem. The Mini14 does when the barrel heats up, but that's not an issue w/the 10/22.

[TallPine]

Marlin Model 60 - cheap, accurate, and reliable

[Snake Eyes]

Basic, classic, fairly accurate OTB, and you can customize it into an $800 tack-driver as funds allow.

I love mine.

[dude]

basic Ruger 10/22 and a decent 6X scope

have fun!

[AZ Jeff]

I will be the odd-ball here, and not recommend the 10/22. My choice--Remington 597, for the following reasons:

1. easier to field strip to clean thoroughly. (The Ruger requires you drive out a press fit pin in the back of the receiver to remove the bolt.)
2. stock proportions more suited to adults

[sasnofear]

thanks 4 replys so far. i was wondering if ppl could tell me groups sizs @ 50yrds with different rifles. quite interested 2 know the grp sizes of basic ruger, marlin 7000 and magtech.

many thanks, adam

[dude]

....you can take a 10/22 apart for cleaning??? Hmm, I 'd better try on mine because I've been shooting it for about 8 years now!

[AZ Jeff]

I know lots of guys don't take their .22 rifles apart for cleaning, and most of the time, they work fine without any attention whatsoever.

I am just anal about having my rifles clean. Thus, for me, ease of diassembly for cleaing purposes is a consideration.

BTW, the trigger group in a Model 597 is SUPER OPEN, so any crud that drops in pretty much falls back out. That is definitely NOT the case on a 10/22!!!

[Redlg155]

The Rem 597s are nice and feel good. Especially the target models with a bull barrel and laminated stock. Mine was super accurate.

My only complaints were terrible magazines and erratic extraction. They need to do a serious redesign on the magazines to make them worth a flip. I ended up selling her because of those two problems.

Good Shooting
Red

[WonderNine]

Marlin Model 60.

What he said; cheap, accurate and reliable.

[AZ Jeff]

I have a 597 in standard configuration, blued. I have found no problems with the magazines, either the plastic or metal. Likewise, I have had no extraction problems, either.

So far, I have only about 500-1000 rounds thru the rifle.

[Ron L]

I've owned a Glenfield (read Marlin) model 75 for around 28 years now. It's been a dandy and reliable rifle all that time. Sure, I've had some junk ammo that gave it fits, but that same junk ammo gave everything else I have in 22 fits as well. My brother has had a 10/22 for maybe around a decade so far and it's a great rifle.

I'd say either Marlin 60 or Ruger 10/22. If you have any desires of eventually gussying up the rifle with accessories, then that narrows it down to the Ruger.

[cdbeaver]

I bought a used Ruger 10/22 (standard) at my local gunshop Tuesday for $125. It had a bit of light rust on the barrel, but a light application of fine steel wool cleaned it up nice. Serial number check determined it was manufactured in 1974.

Priced a new one at Wally World today. $159.95 plus tax.

[Redlg155]

Also try taking a peek at Rimfire Central.com (http://rimfirecentral.com/forums/index.php?)

They have lots of good information and reviews posted on the various .22 offerings out there. I found them to be of good use when I was searching for a .22.

Good Shooting
Red

[Dave Markowitz]

My choice is a standard Ruger 10/22. Super-reliable and with the right ammo gives decent accuracy. Put a good 4x scope on it and you're golden.

My brother and I shot the heck out of my dad's 10/22 when we were kids. It was super reliable and Dad only cleaned it after every brick or two. I had a Glenfield Model 60 back in the '80s. It was accurate but had to be cleaned every 250 rounds or so before it started to malfunction.

I bought my own 10/22 a year or two ago and put a 4x Weaver scope on it. It shoots ~1" groups at 50 yards with Winchester Power Points, and I haven't even done a trigger job on it.

[Jaywalker]

As I'm not a gun-tweaker, I'm thinking of replacing my 10/22 Deluxe with a T-C Classic. It's got a lot of the things I think I want: steel receiver, semi-match chamber, threaded barrel, walnut (I think) stock that fits me better than the Ruger's, and a safety position I like better.

Ruger definitely has a better after-market supply of parts, but there are those who say that's because it needs it. :D

The T-C had some teething problems early on, but I understand they've been corrected. The result is a very accurate autoloader for about $270 plus delivery charges.

Jaywalker

[Remander]

If you go with a Ruger 10/22, take a look at the "Wal-Mart Special" that you will not see on the Ruger site. Only available at the Mart. Bought it; like it.

It's like the 10/22 DSP (or deluxe) but in stainless steel and with about 3 more inches of barrel. $214. The basic carbine is $159 at the Mart.

From a rimfirecentral post:


There are several differences between the "Wal*Mart" 'Special' 10/22 RIFLE and the 10/22DSP DeLuxe Sporter:
Barrel Length: 22" vs 18 1/2"
Barrel Mat'l.: SS vs Blued CS
Stock: Birch vs Walnut [both checkered w/ swivels]
Stamping: "10/22 Rifle" vs "10/22 Carbine"
Model: RUK1022-22 vs 10/22DSP
Price: ~ $215. [W-M] vs $299. [MSRP]

[Coot]

How about the 522- I own a couple of them and they are wonderfully accurate rifles comparing favorably to to rifles 2-3X their cost. With quality ammo they can hold groups to with a dime at 50 yards.



NS Mod. 522- the new benchmark

Specifications: 22LR, Overall Length 39.5 inches, Barrel: 21 inch- cold hammer forged, free floating. Weight: 7.75 lbs unloaded. Magazine capacity: 5-RD detachable clip. Scope mount provisions: integral 3/8 inch dovetail accepts most standard .22 cal rings, Stock: American walnut, hand checkered.

The NS 522 is a precision crafted bolt action rimfire rifle designed for the discriminating shooting enthusiast. Utilizing time honored manufacturing techniques long abandoned by most manufacturers, the 522 offers bench-made quality and genuine craftsmanship.

With the exception of the cocking piece shroud, no stampings or investment castings are used in the entire rifle. Every component, including the bolt handle, trigger mechanism and trigger guard are machined to meet exacting tolerances. Both the receiver and bolt are machined from bar stock for maximum strength. In fact, over thirty machining steps are required to complete a single bolt body.

A thoroughly modern design, the robust NS 522 action features dual rear locking lugs and twin extractors. The trigger mechanism is fully enclosed in steel to protect against dust and debris. The unique bolt is designed to be completely stripped within seconds without the aid of any tools, facilitating proper maintenance. An advanced cold hammer forging process is used to produce the barrel, which is visually distinguished by unique "swirl" marks.

Aesthetically, the NS 522 pleases with a Classic-style American walnut stock, elegantly proportioned for the adult shooter. Hand checkered at 18 lines per inch. Traditional rubbed oil finish. The receiver is grooved to accept most standard tip-off type (3/8 inch dovetail) scope rings.

Every 522 is backed by a limited 5 year warranty against defects in materials or workmanship.

For reviews of this rifle see Guns & Ammo, March 1996 ,Performance Shooter , July 1996.

$300

[Coot]

Oops! See you're just looking at semi-autos...is T/C's Classic .22LR out of your range? It's also a 1/2 " shooter at 50yds with ammo it likes.

[Marcus]

A .22 semi auto that "needs to be basic"? That`s got Marlin Model 60 written all over it. If you prefer a magazine fed rifle there are variants available. I put at least 15,000 rounds through mine before it started giving me trouble with jams. I decided to "move up" to a 10-22 and bought a stainless/synthetic and topped it with a red dot sight. It was a sweet looking gun but I was never really happy with it. The controls are awkward,it has no bolt hold open,the mags are a pain to load,the trigger was heavy and creepy and it wasn`t very reliable. I adapted but I just couldn`t hit well with that thing. I traded it away and took another look at my 16 year old Marlin. I`d put so many rounds through it that the feed ramp had actually worn down a bit exposing an edge on the chamber. I very lightly polished the edge and now it`s 100% again,ready for another 15K. :D I`d forgotten how how much I enjoyed shooting it. :cool: Marcus

[David4516]

The Marlin model 60 is my favorite Marlin rifle. If you don't mind the tube feed, go for the Marlin. I don't like tubes that load from the muzzle end, so I'd rather have a Ruger 10/22. If the Marlin fed from a box magazine I'd probably rather have it than the Ruger. I hear that Marlin is making a new .22 that is very similar to the Model 60 but uses detachable mags, I might have to check it out...

Another cool thing about the Ruger 10/22 is that the mags work in other ruger rifles like the model 96 (looks and feels like a 10/22 but it's lever action) and the 77/22(Ruger's Bolt action .22LR).

Anyway, sorry about rambling there, I think the 2 best out of the box .22 LR semi-autos are the Ruger 10/22 and the Marlin model 60. You should be happy with either one...

[ed dixon]

sas: All I know about them is one article and some reading on Rimfirecentral, but I was considering Thompson Center's Benchmark with the short (20"?) heavy barrel. The only quote I got was $379, which I'm pretty sure tops your 200 pound limit. Haven't seen one in person yet, and am starting to lean back toward the CZ 452. Now a nice bolt-action... AAAGGHHH!

[Byron]

Browning Buckmark Sporter

[Tropical Z]

You really cant beat the 597.Compare one side by side and inside and out with a 10/22 and youll see the 597 is superior.Remingtons engineers did their homework this time.Mine has had NO extraction or magazine problems and is the most accurate .22lr ive owned.

[tango3065]

:confused: Driving out a press pin in a 10/22 I have a 10/22 special edition laminated stock about 10,000 rounds thru I have completely stripprd it many a times but have never had to drive a pin out? If you talking about the big pin that acts as a buffer it just simply falls out when u take the action out of the stock.