Best long range rifle scope for around 500?


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Dtmoss14
August 16, 2007, 07:13 PM
im talking 600 yards all the way up to 1000 and maybe a little more...

discuss, thanks!

I will be shooting a bolt action in .308 (Either a Savage 10FP, 12FV | Tikka T3, | or a Remington 700 of some sort)

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Outlaws
August 16, 2007, 07:47 PM
What kind of rifle are you shooting?

Jim Watson
August 16, 2007, 07:52 PM
I use Leupolds of somewhat higher cost.
You will get referrals to all sorts of scopes that will get you by, optically.

A scope for ranges longer than 600 yards will require a lot of elevation adjustment, or an external source of elevation like a tapered base to add 20 MOA or the Burris Signature rings with eccentric inserts. Then you may not have enough down adjustment to get on target at 100 yards for convenient short range checkout.

The Super Sniper claims over 100 MOA adjustment but is basically a rather cheap scope. Might get you started til you decide if you want to make a serious investment.

MIL-DOT
August 16, 2007, 07:57 PM
i believe i got my leupold MK PR 4.5-14 x 40mm,mil-dot,with 30 mm. tube for about $600. that's SORT OF around $500.:D

phantomak47
August 16, 2007, 08:32 PM
Do some hardcore research about this topic and I think you will find that there are some really nice deals out there. Chuck Hawks website provides some very good info about scopes and whats good for the money out there. It's not all about the price, for instance Bushnell 4200s can compete with scopes that cost hundreds more. Do some homework.

MIL-DOT
August 16, 2007, 09:25 PM
agree with phantomak, when i was researching optics, i also really liked the bushnell elite series,almost got one,and if i was scoping another rifle on any kind of budget at all, that's what i'd likely get.

Dtmoss14
August 16, 2007, 10:51 PM
Which model of Bushnell 4200 would you guys recommend for any of the rifles listed?

Thanks!

phantomak47
August 16, 2007, 11:12 PM
heres some info for you........take some time to take in all this info, theres a lot to it.


http://www.opticstalk.com/


http://www.chuckhawks.com/scopes_price_class.htm


I am not an expert, but I would not buy a scope based on brand loyalty, it should be based on performance.

MIL-DOT
August 16, 2007, 11:13 PM
actually, the one i liked was the bushnell elite 3200 mil-dot. it's a fixed 10 power. i saw one on-line recently for $175, don't remember where. hopefully phantomak will chime in with more info, good luck.....m.

Outlaws
August 16, 2007, 11:26 PM
Has anyone here actually shot 1000 yards with these Bushnells? I am just curious. Not trying to pick a fight. It just seems like a really long ways for a sub-$250 scope. What kind of rifles were these things mounted on?

phantomak47
August 17, 2007, 12:12 AM
heres some more info


Member riflescope.com is the owner of an online optics company but if your compare his info with chuck hawks you will find that they are in agreement about scopes in general, so its decent info.


try this too...


http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=128293

Dtmoss14
August 17, 2007, 02:14 AM
What level of magnification do think I should look at?

Reticle?

Jim Watson
August 17, 2007, 08:48 AM
I have 8.5-25X and am gradually increasing the power as I gain experience. I am up to a 20X setting that does not wobble much on a bipod.

If you will shoot at known distances with sighter shots a la NRA, a plain crosshair or duplex is fine. If you will be at unknown ranges with Zak, then a ranging reticle like a mil-dot.

GunTech
August 17, 2007, 09:05 AM
SWFA SuperSniper.

$299, or $399 with side parallax. This scope is wel reviewed on the various tactical shooting sited (like Snipers Hide). I've owned 3 of them, along with my usual Leupold MkIVs, Nikon tacticals and the like. For the money, they can't be beat.

http://www.swfa.com/c-231-super-sniper-rifle-scopes.aspx

Dtmoss14
August 17, 2007, 01:02 PM
Do you guys think 6.5x-20x will be good for ranges from 500 to 1000 yards?

Dtmoss14
August 17, 2007, 01:27 PM
I was looking at the VX-II Scopes on Leupold's site. What is the difference between the 6-18x40mm Adj. Obj. and the 6-18x40mm Adj. Obj. Target?

thanks

Jim Watson
August 17, 2007, 01:58 PM
The Target designation on a Leupold scope gets you tall target turrets with reasonably clear graduations. You need target knobs on a target scope.

I think 6.5-20X or 6-18X would be adequate.
More would be better, up to a point, but a good clear 20 is better than a cheap fuzzy 30.

Dtmoss14
August 17, 2007, 02:24 PM
What do you mean by your statement of "You need target knobs on a target scope."?

How is the picture quality of a Leupold VX-II at 18x or 20x compared to a Bushnell 4200 and Zeiss Conquest?

Jim Watson
August 17, 2007, 02:47 PM
What do you mean by your statement of "You need target knobs on a target scope."?

Any form of target shooting I have done calls for frequent sight adjustments. You should keep a record of the sight setting for any given range. You adjust to that, then refine it as you fire sighters to zero for the day's conditions. Small changes in shooting position or lot to lot variation in ammo can affect the elevation required. The wind has to be allowed for day by day or minute by minute. Many shooters will adjust windage while zeroing and then hold off if it changes during the string. Others will keep twiddling the knob.

A target knob you can grab with the fingers and read the graduations on so you know how far and in what direction you are going is a lot better than a coin slot or even the flat dials of some scopes.

I do not know the relative merits of a Bushnell or Zeiss scope.

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