[PattonTime]

After buying 1000 once fired .223 brass I sat down to
remove the crimp with a small primer reamer from Lyman.
I had been told that this would work well."just sit in front of the T.V.
piece of cake " its not for me !
I have now purchased a Dillon pocket swager for $80.00
Wow, does it work well !
I have seen postings where people say they use their pocket
knife, I don't get it!
Well, I now have a great new tool I was going to try the RCBS version
but the guy who owns the shop recommended the Dillon
I like everything but the price.

[Roadkill]

I screwed around with several rigs before I found a small metal ball cutter attachment that fits my dremel tool. Even after using it I still have to hand ream a couple of turns with a case with a deburring tool.

[NavyLCDR]

I picked up the RCBS swager used for $15. Works great, I check all my .223 cases on it. Sure beats doing it by hand like I used to. I hear the Dillon tool is better, but I'll stick with spending only $15 and be happy.

[layusn1]

If you plan on using military brass a lot I would go for the Dillon. Yeah its expensive but it is soooo worth it. Besides, you can afford it on that LT pay....lol

CTI1

[Adventurer_96]

I've just started using the RCBS swager on my single stage. I'm very unhappy with the fact I have to pull like hell to get the brass off the swaging floorplate. I don't think I use too much pressure, even with light pressure they stick and require a lot of force to remove from the plate.

How hard is it to remove the brass from the Dillon tool?

[PattonTime]

Adventurer_96
On the Dillon it slides right off the rod.
I have not used the RCBS, but I can assure you that if you buy the Dillon tool you will love it except for the price
P.S. This is the only "blue tool" I own, So I don't believe I have any bias.
I buy whatever I like for the job.

RCBS Rockchucker
Hornady LnL AP
Lee Classic O Press
Lee "cheapee" Press {for depriming}
All Redding dies

See, I show no bias.:rolleyes:

[eliphalet]

I have used the RCBS tool over 25 years when needed on small or large primer pockets with no trouble.

[donttellthewife]

I have both units, RCBS and dillon and prefer the dillon do to it's speed. I found by mounting the dillon swager on an angle over hanging the bench I could blast through the cases at a faster pace by just letting the finished cases drop into a box below.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RonsList/dillonswag4.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RonsList/dillonswag3.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RonsList/dillonswag2.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RonsList/dillonswag1.jpg

The big problem I had was removing the primer crimps from berdan cases but I found RCBS has a tool that works for that.


Adventurer_96,

Unless I misunderstood you it sounds like your missing a piece to your RCBS swager, when I return the handle to the end of its travel the brass comes right off do to the metal cup that the swager retracts into. The dillon swager has a camming type set up and the swager piston goes in and comes out very easy. I have found that you do have to sort the cases and set the depth by case headstamp, but that's no problem I do that anyways.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RonsList/RCBSMissing.jpg

[Adventurer_96]

OK, gents, I figured out what the problem was, thanks for the excellent replies & pics. donttellthewife, your Dillon setup looks well thought out.

I'm using an old Herter's single stage press. I have a shellplate adatper so I can use standard RCBS etc. shellholders, but it raises the shellplate up a fair amount off the top of the press's ram. When I swage a case, the shell kicker (or whatever you call it) that you've got in the picture above doesn't move down anywhere, since it's raised up by the shellplate adapter.

So, today I was trying to figure out how to make a plate that I could put under the shell and then it would kick it up, by being pushed up when it reaches the bottom of the press stroke. Then, I read the directions, which didn't have a picture of that operation, and I realized that in fact this case "kicker" was supposed to do that, but couldn't due to the shellplate adapter.

To make a long story longer, it comes down to two things - Herter's presses w/shellplate adapters don't work w/the RCBS setup. And, I need to pick whether I want to buy a Rockchucker or a Dillon tool.

Thoughts?