My new Hensoldt Fero Z 24


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Father Knows Best
August 18, 2007, 12:22 AM
I just got my new Hensoldt Fero Z 24 scope from Dan's Ammo, and Wow! :what: She is a beauty! :neener:

Check it out. Here's everything that was in the kit: a Hensoldt Fero Z 24 scope dated 1988, original HK claw mount, case for the scope and mount, rubber lens covers, original tool kit for scope, filter, G3 sling, G3 cleaning kit, HK G3 magazine dated 11/74:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/mosmoke/Hensoldt%20Ferro/DSC00158.jpg

The scope, mount and case are in immaculate condition, and appear to be unissued. Here are some closer views of the scope and mount:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/mosmoke/Hensoldt%20Ferro/DSC00163.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/mosmoke/Hensoldt%20Ferro/DSC00160.jpg

And here she is mounted to my PTR-91 with G3 furniture, Springfield trigger and Tac-Latch:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/mosmoke/Hensoldt%20Ferro/DSC00164.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/mosmoke/Hensoldt%20Ferro/DSC00165.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c187/mosmoke/Hensoldt%20Ferro/DSC00170.jpg

The mount is rock solid, of course, and allows use of the irons with the scope mounted. It's a slick set-up.

The only thing not included was the reticle illuminator. Anybody know where I can get one?

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jpwilly
August 18, 2007, 12:42 AM
Nice rifle!

Father Knows Best
August 18, 2007, 12:57 AM
I forgot to mention the price -- I got everything pictured (except the rifle, of course) for $375 shipped. That's a smokin' deal, considering that HK claw mounts alone often sell for $250-300. Dan's has a few left, but I hear they're selling out quickly. If you have an HK or PTR rifle, you should get one of these. www.dansammo.com

I just need to find that reticle illuminator now....

Logan5
August 18, 2007, 01:06 AM
That is an absurdly good deal. I believe CTD sells the OEM reticle illuminaor, their stock number SCP-972, for $29.97.

triage1998
August 18, 2007, 01:42 AM
I picked my Hendsoldt Fero Z24 from Dan's about 6 months ago. I really believe this is the best deal going on 4x glass right now.

I was comparing the glass on the Z24 to my ACOG TA31F and ACOG TA11. Except for the better field of view on the ACOG, the glass on the Hendsoldt is very comparable. The Hendsolt is also over half of the cost. Hell, if you just took the mount and sold it thats $100 right there. So basically you are getting quality glass for $275. Fantastic deal.




The only thing not included was the reticle illuminator. Anybody know where I can get one?


I picked my reticle illuminator off of ebay a while back.



http://i11.tinypic.com/50807y0.jpg

Father Knows Best
August 18, 2007, 01:44 AM
How do you like the collapsible stock on your PTR? Is it hard to get a good view of the scope with it?

triage1998
August 18, 2007, 01:50 AM
The view of the scope is not to bad. Try not to keep your cheek tight to the stock. It beats you up a bit after a couple hundred rounds if you do. I have learned not to do that. LOL


http://i13.tinypic.com/4ly8obp.jpg

hksw
August 18, 2007, 06:11 PM
Huh, that looks like Tusco.

Father Knows Best
August 18, 2007, 10:13 PM
What the heck is "Tusco"?

iamkris
August 19, 2007, 12:01 AM
What the heck is "Tusco"?

I'm guessin' a range, given that both of them are in OH.

Nice scope guys. Really completes the HK package.

FKB was the inspiration for me to pick up a PTR...I had a G3 and got rid of it...the PTR is much better and I'm starting to like the HK pattern rifle much more again. Not as much as my FALs but they're growing on me.

triage1998
August 19, 2007, 03:58 AM
Huh, that looks like Tusco.


Sure is. Thats the fifty yard range.

C123K_Loadmaster
August 19, 2007, 04:46 AM
Very pleased with the Hensoldt Fero Z 24 I purchased from Dan last year. Back then he included a German paratrooper gravity knife and also had some original illuminators available.

http://www.fototime.com/83F9F9581AFA813/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/1482494C1176930/standard.jpg

Father Knows Best
August 19, 2007, 09:27 AM
Wow. Nice rifle, Loadmaster. SR9T, right? How's it shoot, and what ammo does it like best?

To both of you with the Z 24's -- what's the deal with the lens covers that come on the scopes? They seem useless to me. They fit nice, and are flip open, but there is no way to keep them open; they hang in front of the lenses. Am I missing something?

Also, how does the IR filter work? Does it snap into the lens cover on the objective end?

DMK
August 19, 2007, 09:39 AM
Wow, that is an awesome deal. Makes me wish I had a H&K or PTR91.

Nice rifles guys!

C123K_Loadmaster
August 19, 2007, 12:33 PM
FKB,

Yes, it is a SR9-T I purchased about 14 years ago. I get best accuracy with Radway Green 7.62x51mm. I still have a lot of the Radway Green I bought from Dan in the 90ís. I find my rifle does not like any of the commercial ammo I have tried.

http://www.fototime.com/D468CD9108CECCB/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/F0993DC0F5ED61E/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/EF7CB2D7F79B75C/orig.jpg

To get the cups out of your line of sight turn them inside out.

BTW - here's a link to the scope manual from HK for a similar model Hensoldt scope (Dan's doesn't have a Dioptrical Adjustment knob), otherwise the manual is accurate for the Z24.

http://www.drzero.org/cetme/pdf/g3sm.pdf

Check out the video of the LL80 German Paratrooper/Commando Knife I made. NOTE: For some reason the video (mpg) files don't always play correctly on the first pass. After it loads completely hit the play button again and it should play without gaps.

http://www.fototime.com/C1BA3D3C1CA71BB/orig.MPG

Howard

MJ
August 19, 2007, 01:49 PM
Push that thing out two or three hundred yards.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/bkt174.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/bkt175.jpg
:fire::fire::fire:
:cool::cool::cool:

triage1998
August 19, 2007, 02:57 PM
To both of you with the Z 24's -- what's the deal with the lens covers that come on the scopes? They seem useless to me. They fit nice, and are flip open, but there is no way to keep them open; they hang in front of the lenses. Am I missing something?



To get the cups out of your line of sight turn them inside out.


I thought the same thing when I first got the scope. Just turn the cups inside out and they work great.


btw~ nice setup guys!!!

Tully M. Pick
August 19, 2007, 08:14 PM
Gee, thanks a lot. Now I had to go and buy one.

Where's a good place to buy a collapsible stock for a G3 clone? I was thinking about picking one up from CDNN, but thought that someone might have a good idea where to pick one up that's in better quality. Last time I ordered stock stuff from them it was pretty beat up.

Father Knows Best
August 19, 2007, 08:23 PM
There's no shortage of places selling G3/HK91 collapsible stocks these days. Asking prices seem to run from $160 to $260. RTG Parts has them for $230, and I've always had good luck with RTG in the past. They may not be the cheapest, but if they say they have it, they actually do, and the quality tends to be very high. http://www.robertrtg.com/g3collapsiblestock.html

Personally, I don't care for the collapsible stock. If I was building a short barrel carbine, I might consider it, but I find them to be a little unsteady and very uncomfortable, especially with optics. If I put something other than a fixed G3 buttstock on my PTR-91, I'm going to go with a MSG90 or PSG-1 type.

Tully M. Pick
August 19, 2007, 08:32 PM
Thanks for the quick reply! I have the carbine version of the PTR-91, so I was looking to do a compact build with it. How are the collapsible stocks uncomfortable? Smaller surface area make the recoil feel sharper?

Father Knows Best
August 19, 2007, 09:29 PM
FYI, I just stumbled on this: http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.asp?chrProductSKU=813340

It's the site for Numrich Gun Parts. They list "unissued" collapsible stocks for the G3/HK91 for $199.

I don't like the shape of the buttplate on the collapsible stocks. You also have to essentially hold your head in free space -- there is no way to get a "cheek weld" on those bars. Finally, the ones I've used have felt sloppy and unsteady to me.

I'm biased, though, as I generally dislike folding/collapsing stocks on rifles. I prefer a solid fixed stock, as it makes for a more comfortable and more solid platform, and that means better accuracy. I only have one folding/collapsing stock in my collection, and that's the folder on my FAL paratrooper. I like it because it is rock solid when open, and has a pad that still allows for a comfortable cheek weld.

stubbicatt
August 23, 2007, 07:58 AM
Choate makes a sidefolding stock for HK. You can also buy them without the HK logo for quite a bit less. PTR91, Inc. ship some of their rifles with this stock installed. I almost bought one set up that way when I bought my PTR91. In my opinion the stock is more useable than the factory slider.

YMMV

Father Knows Best
August 23, 2007, 08:58 AM
I have a side folder on my DSA SA58 Para (FAL), and it's rock solid. I like it a lot. I've seen those Choate side folders in pictures, but never up close. Does it lock both open and closed? How solid is the stock when open?

mchgnmike
August 23, 2007, 10:46 AM
Someone mentioned earlier in the post that we (Cheaper Than Dirt) has OEM Illuminators for these scopes. Well we do have them but they are not OEM. These are made in China.


http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/SCP972-55224-1542.html

Father Knows Best
August 23, 2007, 12:00 PM
Mike, I already discovered that, and have one on order. I'll be posting a review when I get it and am able to try it out.

caflashbob
September 3, 2007, 12:56 AM
picked up the same deal. same scope same condition. unbelievable deal. also got the laser illuminator. cool. thank everyone for your help. bob

Tully M. Pick
September 3, 2007, 12:11 PM
I got mine in, and was amazed. The scope looks brand new, and I'd believe it if I was told it was never used.

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