[pablo45]

I am thinking of trading my 870 for a mossi 500. Before I do I needed to consult the council of the high road and see what all you thought. Is this a bad decision or a good one? I heard that the 870 o.d. green is not coming out anymore. Does this mean it will be more valuable or will it be less? Thanks for any input.

[Steve C]

Now why do you want to do that? I've always found the 870's to have a much smoother action than any Mossberg. Are you looking to trade for a more practical shotgun to be used for hunting or other shotgun games?

[Atticus_1354]

Despit being a huge mossberg fan I am wondering why you would want to do that? Your gun seems to be great and I wouldn't trade it unless you need a different style gun.

[Bentonville]

I suggest that you think again. Go out and shoot your 870 and try to imagine ways that a gun could shoot any better? JMHO

[MCgunner]

Well, since you're talking tacticool gun, the Remington is probably the better one since you can buy all manor of add ons, lights, lasers, DVD players, MP3 vids, 100 round magazines, bayonets, yadda, yadda, yadda for it. If you were talkin' duck hunting, I'd say dump that POS 870 and go for the Mossy :D (j/k), I did a long time ago. However, the 870 is a lot easier to do the add ons and shoots just fine.



Now why do you want to do that? I've always found the 870's to have a much smoother action than any Mossberg.


I will take issue with that. The Mossberg smooths out and improves like a fine wine with use. I have never pumped the 870 that was any better than my 500. However, you do have to actually fire the gun once in a while for it to smooth out. Out of the box, you may be right. I doubt most range commandos put as many rounds through a shotgun in a year as I put through my guns in a week during hunting season. Of course, neither gun is much of a trap and skeet gun, but if you take 'er to the range and pop a few rounds of skeet once a month, that 500 will smooth out and you'll have a lot more fun than sitting in front of the TV watching a "Predator" DVD pumping the gun.

Now, I wouldn't trade the 870 for a Mossberg if I were wanting a riot gun improvement. The 870 by its design lends itself to personalization by add ons, especially if you're interested in increasing magazine capacity. The Mossberg, too, doesn't really have the aftermarket the 870 does. I really see both guns as pretty much the same thing, cheap, but effective. I like that in a salt marsh. Let it rust, who cares? It's cheap, it ain't pretty, it don't have cut checkering and deep bluing or gold inlays to mess up. Both companies offer the defense guns, but I think for the reasons I give, the 870 is the better by a small margin. Why trade an apple for an apple anyway even if it were an even swap? If you were wanting to go to an auto or something, I'd half way understand your dilemma, but a pump for a pump?

[DougW]

The ONLY reason I dont have an 870 is that I had to sell it (and an Enfield #4mk1) to buy a new M1Super90 Tactical at a ridiculous price. I am glad I have the Benelli, but I am going to get another 870 soon.

[Deer Hunter]

What do you want the shotgun for?

[Fred Fuller]

Given the number of spray'n'bake options for finish colors, you can have a green 870 any time you want one these days. Collectors' items? Old gun show line- "Put it in the can out back, the collectors will be here in the morning." Sorry but I'm not a collector, I'm a shooter, and tend to be somewhat less than sensitive in that regard (for which I apologize).

What do you expect the Mossberg to do for you that the 870 isn't doing? Or, what is the 870 failing to do that you expect the Mossberg to do? There's nothing wrong with trading, but if you have questions about doing the deal it indicates there may be some underlying reservations on your part. Just trying to help you think it through, not being critical.

If you just want an opportunity to live with a Mossberg for a while to see what it's like, see if you can arrange to swap guns only for a set period of time, (if the deal is with a friend, not too many dealers will do this) then swap back for your original gun.

hth,

lpl/nc

[Creature]

Get the Mossy...and keep the 870 as well. Simple enough.

[Dave McCracken]

I see no advantage to the swap. 870s last forever, 500s for longer than we do.

870s get a few style points for the aftermarket good ies available.

And MCgunner, you just haven't met Frankenstein yet. Swing by MD and see what smooth really is.

[MCgunner]

If I want smooth, that's what Brownings and Ithacas are for. :D Of course, they're a little more money than an 870 or Mossy, but hey, they say you get for what you pay, or something like that. But, I got one better, Winchester 1400. That thing's so smooth you don't even realize you've pumped it and it's almost like it reloads itself...uh...well, I mean it sorta does. :D


Get the Mossy...and keep the 870 as well. Simple enough.

Actually, for no more than these guns cost, that ain't bad advice...:D

[ndolson]

I sold my 870 for a Saiga 12 ;) 10-20 rds of 12 gauge at my disposal in quick change mags was much more enticing to me than 5-7 rounds of 12 gauge in a slow reloading, slow firing, heavy recoil platform :P (since it looks like you're into a home defense setup).

I can't wait to take my saiga out to the fudd range with my 20 round drum and do some trap shooting hahahha. They're gonna flip their lids.

I did LOVE my 870 though. I may get a wingmaster some day for trap shooting. My buddy has one with a smooth as silk action, it's an older model (80's or 90's) and probably has a few thousand rounds through it though.

not mine v v v

http://home.comcast.net/~tdmccallie/Uzi/Saiga12x2_sm.JPG

[MCgunner]

You plannin' on going to war in your neighborhood or just defending yourself. I prefer old school and if I had to use it, it's traditional and not evil to a moron jury. If some burgler can walk though just ONE barrel of #3 buck, he's on the best drugs man ever created. :D Minimizes collateral damage to my bedroom, too. :D

I admit, those Saigas would be cool to play with. Sure would be a neat gun to carry in Alaska, too, probably ideal. I'd put a polychoke on it and have the ultimate Alaska survival gun, ready for anything from small game to Kodiaks. Might not be the most ergonomic wing shooter around, but it could be done.


http://imageigloo.com/images/6966PICT0097.JPG

[Whitman31]

Seems like this post is just for show...Not many people are going to tell you your making a smart decision.

[texas bulldog]

MCgunner,

that looks exactly like my setup minus the exposed hammers. i wonder...are you a lefty? i ask because i prefer my spare shells on the other side...

sorry to hijack...to be on topic, i would not advise this swap...

[stevekl]

Honestly, I think it's a stupid idea. I don't mean that to be insulting, I just mean that it's silly and irrational.

[Blue .45]

You didn't say why you might be interested in a trade. Are you left handed? Are the controls more accessible on the mossberg? If both guns are in comparable condition, the remington will have a higher dollar value. If you prefer the mossberg, maybe you can ask for cash with the trade.

[The Deer Hunter]

Me? I would trade my 870 for a 500 when hell freezes over. Actually I mean never.

But if its what you want go for it.

[ndolson]

You plannin' on going to war in your neighborhood or just defending yourself.

sending lead down the range, mostly. would make a formidable HD weapon though.

[pablo45]

Well sorry for not clarifying, The 870 has a 20 inch barrel. The mossberg has a 18.5. The Mossberg also has a shell holder a sling, ghost rings, surefire forend grip and a case. The Remington is just the green 20inch pistol grip butt stock and that is about it. I plan on just using it for home defense and shooting around at the range. It will not be my number one gun of course that is the maverick 88.
The guy I am trading is a cop at my work that said he wanted to sell the shotgun straight as is for 200.00. I told him I was selling my 870 for 350.00. He asked if I wanted to trade plus 150.00 on his part. I said I will think about it..... Thanks for your input everyone.

[byf43]

I am thinking of trading my 870 for a mossi 500. Before I do I needed to consult the council of the high road and see what all you thought. Is this a bad decision or a good one? I heard that the 870 o.d. green is not coming out anymore. Does this mean it will be more valuable or will it be less? Thanks for any input.



pablo. . .

I've got a NEW in the BOX Mossberg Trophy Slugster Combo 12 ga that I won at a raffle last year, that has NEVER been taken out of the box.
It has a cantilever (sp???) scope mounted slug barrel and 28" choke-tubed shot barrel, and an adjustable stock.

I'll trade ya for the 870!!!

You want to get rid of the 870?????

I'm in Maryland. PM me if you're interested!





Keith

[kgriggs8@yahoo.com]

Mossbergs are decent guns but I have sold all mine and I am sticking with the 870. I find it is better in almost every way.

The only thing I like about the Moss over the 870 is the tang safety and the lighter weight reciever. Since you have a pistol grip buttstock, the Rem safety is actually in a better position so that rules out that advantage. The lighter weight is imparts more recoil so it can be seen as a disadvantage depending on your point of view.

Bottom line, I would not trade an 870 for a Moss. Remington make some great guns and they have a proven track record. Mossbergs are fine but they are not 870s.

[Creature]

I prefer my Mossberg 590A1 over my Police 870...in my experience, it has proven to be better in every way. Go figure!

[kgriggs8@yahoo.com]

I am pretty much certain that an 870 is all anyone ever needs. I am not saying that there is no reason to own other shotguns. It is just that, there is no reason to get rid of an 870 in favor of another gun. The Moss is not going to do anything the 870 won't. The same can be said the other way around as well.

The point is, for the money, you are not going to find a better shotgun than an 870. You should give the Moss a try just to see what you think but I wouldn't trade off your 870 yet. It is mostly a matter of personal taste but about 10% is that an 870 is made a bit better. 90% personal taste, 10% quality difference.

[Red Tornado]

Okay, that trade makes sense.

I think it sounds like a fair trade, and if you do it I have two predictions.
1) You'll really like the Mossberg and will be happy for years.
2) You'll really miss your Remington and will eventually get another.

RT

[Lonestar.45]

I plan on just using it for home defense and shooting around at the range. It will not be my number one gun of course that is the maverick 88.


You've got an 870, you want to trade it for Mossberg 500, but neither will be your main gun, that's your Maverick 88?? IMHO you're going the wrong direction big time! The 870 is the better shotgun of the three. I would not trade it for a Mossberg 500 (and I have both), and I would relegate the Maverick 88 to a truck gun/mess around gun. That's just me.

[theboondocksaints22]

i got a mossi 500 that ill trade ya i just like the action of a 870 better

[joab]

he Mossberg also has a shell holder a sling, ghost rings, surefire forend grip and a case.With those add ons then yes it is a fair trade.
To add those to your Remi would cost you in excess of $200, if they are quality parts

The surefire grip alone would cost that

[Powderman]

First off, you already have your Mossberg; the Maverick 88 is made by Mossberg.

Second, the Remington 870 is much easier to maintain than the Mossy. Don't get me wrong, both are fine shotguns.

But disassembly of the Mossberg takes a bit more practice than doing the Remington. Moreover, about 80% of the aftermarket shotgun parts market is oriented toward the Remington.

You can go with the Mossy for the ghost rings, nothing wrong with that. But you can get the same thing for the Remington--not to mention other goodies that will give you one sweet shooting shotgun.

In the end, it's your decision. Good luck!