Anybody think the Savage stocks are barable?


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Dtmoss14
August 19, 2007, 01:19 AM
I'm just wondering if I should go ahead and buy the 10FP or save up and get the HS precision...

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rangerruck
August 19, 2007, 02:19 AM
kActually, the new stocks are decent, and light, and are no longer two pieces, tacked together. That being said, if you are trying to make 1 hole groups at 100, this will be much easier with the HS, than the Savage, not that you wont do it with the Savage stock, just be much more of an irregular thing.
I like the 10fp idea very much though.

dfaugh
August 19, 2007, 07:52 AM
I've been considering buying a Savage in .22-250 for a coyote rifle....

But the first thing that goes would be the stock....they just don't "feel" right.

riddleofsteel
August 19, 2007, 09:20 AM
Consider one of the Stockade stocks sold by Lock, Stock and Barrel.

I bought one for my 110. It was one of the economy, Hunter models. Left hand (hard to find), has a full length aluminum bedding block from the front sling swivel back to the pistol grip on the stock. As an economy model it is "right out of the mold." I had to fill in pin holes with bondo and sand off seams, prime, then paint. If you are not into saving money there are drop in models in several styles.
IMHO these stocks are equal to or better than H&S or McMillan stocks at half the price. My used .270 Savage 110 went from a birch stock, detachable mag rifle to a .5 MOA rifle with some simple home gunsmithing.

http://www.lockstock.com/prodinfo.asp?number=STOHM

http://yerfrockethellhound.com/ROS2005huntingrifle.JPG

jhansman
August 19, 2007, 12:35 PM
I shot my new Model 12 Varmint Low Profile for the first time yesterday, and really liked the laminated stock it come with. It's got a wide beaver-tail forend and grip that feel good in the hand and is (IMHO) much better looking than the synthetics. It's staying on.

riddleofsteel
August 19, 2007, 01:53 PM
The Savage laminated stocks are similar the the Fajen Rhinehart laminated stocks. They can benefit from some bedding applications but I have seen a bunch that were tack drivers out of the box.

MJ
August 19, 2007, 02:08 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/bkt099.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/bkt080.jpg

Maybe if you cheap out on the mounts.

Cheers
:neener:

sansone
August 19, 2007, 02:09 PM
I just sold a savage varminter .22-250 / stainless, fluted, laminated stock, trigger can be adjusted down to 1.5 pounds... SWEEEET

jpwilly
August 19, 2007, 02:34 PM
Every Savage Synthetic stock I have ever handled flexed quite easily...if your pulling on it with a sling the barrel won't be free floated. That's the item that keeps their costs down. It's probably a $5 dollar peice of plastic.

ndolson
August 19, 2007, 02:35 PM
I have a 10FP in .223, and while the stock isn't "ideal" it works for punching holes in paper. I do plan to replace it, but it's not high on my priority list considering it'll be a ~$200 ordeal.

spystyle
September 29, 2007, 02:33 PM
Can't the Savage stock be reinforced and strengthened?

Like adding steel and epoxy?

Cheers,
Craig

The Annoyed Man
September 29, 2007, 02:54 PM
My son has the Savage 10FP-HS Precision in .308. Personally, I prefer the HS Precision stock that is on my .308 Remington 700 VSF, but the one on the Savage is OK. The one on the Remington seems a nicer fit and finish, while the one on the Savage seems a little rough, but since both stocks are from the same manufacturer, they are probably equally well made.

Unfortunately, neither of them has any degree of adjustability, and although I mostly like the one on my Remington, some day I will spring for a McMillan or Bell & Carlson adjustable stock for that perfect fit.

CajunTim
September 29, 2007, 03:21 PM
Just my thoughts. See if you can get one of the new ones with the detacheable mags. Take it out and shoot it until you save enough money to upgrade the stock, if it needs to be upgraded I haven't heard a review yet of the new ones with the detacheable mags. Maybe just maybe they corrected the crappy stock issue. Anyway the quicker you can start sending rounds down range the better.

Detritus
September 29, 2007, 03:32 PM
It's probably a $5 dollar peice of plastic.

yeah that's probably about what Bell & Carlson (yes B&C makes the standard savage synth stock) charges Savage per unit. Personally i'd like to know what teh actual price increase would be if Savage decided to upgrade their factory stock to being a B&C Duramax.

as for the whole "buy the cheap one or save for the HS" question, it really depends. I've owned both a 110FP and a 12FV both in the "factory rubbermaid" and never really had any real problems related to the stock that couldn't be fixed by pay a little more attention to what i was doing. granted i was shooting either from a bench or prone, mostly off of bags and occasionally a bipod.
now YES i would suggest planning on replacing the factory stock at a later time, but like others have said i'd wind up getting one of the Stockade designs or a B&C Duramax (if i stayed with synth), i just can't see enough improvement between either of these and an HS stock to justify the extra cost of the HS.

There is also the option if you're open to it of getting a laminated stock from Sharp Shooter's Supply. granted the ones fred has out right now are all nearly benchrest looking things but their good.

jhansman
September 29, 2007, 04:08 PM
The 12VLP comes with a stout laminated stock I should think would hold up to field work nicely. I don't hunt with mine, but every time I pick it up I'm impressed with its genuinely solid feel.

erict
September 29, 2007, 04:16 PM
Sure... so is a Chevy Cavalier. :D I have the factory stock on my .223 still.... it shoots, but I'll be upgrading soon to something more comfortable.

Bear2000
September 29, 2007, 04:34 PM
I recently purchased a Savage 12FV (heavy barrel) in .223, and while I'm a total newbie to shooting, I find the stock bearable, although not nearly as nice as the one on my wood Ruger 10/22! But even though I've only been shooting for a few months, I'm getting 1"-2" groups with my new Savage and really do like the trigger. Three old timers at my range came over and asked me about it. I asked if they wouldn't mind shooting a few groups and tweaking the sight. They did - one guy took 15 shots, he didn't want to stop. Turns out the sights were dead on, I wasn't. Anyway, they all left saying they wanted to pick one up. And at $450 otd with a scope, how can you go wrong?

spystyle
September 29, 2007, 05:02 PM
Well, Boyd's has stocks for Savage for less than $100

http://www.boydsgunstocks.com

$93
http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/Images/Parts/503-031.jpg

$83
http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/Images/Parts/503-224.jpg

$83
http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/Images/Parts/503-102.jpg

$93
http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/Images/Parts/503-305.jpg

The laminates sure are purdy, and the price is appealing. Chuck Hawks speaks highly of laminates and lowly of plastic stocks here:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_stock.htm

I suppose the downside would be no pillars, no aluminum, and you have to bed your action to the stock.

GS Wagner shows us how to make pillars and glass bed here:

http://www.gswagner.com/turk/turkbed1.html
http://www.gswagner.com/turk/turkbed2.html
http://www.gswagner.com/turk/turkbed3.html

I guess it would be better to get the model 12 stock from Savage, assuming they sell it seperately. That would already have the pillars. Would that stock fit a model 110? I love that stock!

http://www.savagearms.com/images/centerfire/varmint/12bvss_sala.jpg

I think that stock is made by Fajen.

Cheers,
Craig

spystyle
September 29, 2007, 05:17 PM
I also found the B&C for $95 at Midwayusa.com

http://tinyurl.com/26s42n

It apparently has aluminum pillars

http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/highresimage?saleitemid=913677

ROMAK IV
September 30, 2007, 12:42 AM
I also have a Savage 112 Varmit low profile. The trouble with the Savage with the Accu-trigger, is that is has to be removed to adjust the trigger, something not really good for a super Accurate rifle. Otherwise, the laminated stock has a good feel to it and the recoil from 300 WinMag isn't that bad. No brake, and I'm sure the weight of the rifle helps to control recoil.

Detritus
September 30, 2007, 02:20 AM
Would that stock fit a model 110

For a 110, you would need to get the 112BVSS stock, instead of the one for the 12BVSS. a three didgit model number means long action, two didgit short action.

ndolson
September 30, 2007, 02:34 AM
At first, the stock on my 10FP didnt' really bother me. But the more I shot it, the more it knawed away at me. When the barrel wasn't properly and evenly spaced/bedded/whatever in the stock (even touching one side at times) I said enough is enouhg. I'll buy a new stock when I get the $$$

SJG26
September 30, 2007, 07:25 AM
- Heavy as all hell
- spooky accurate

alucard0822
September 30, 2007, 08:04 AM
I guess the ultimate question is what the rifle is to be used for. I opted for the 10FP choate, and love it. The stock is strong, comfortable, adjustable(LOP&cheek pad spacers included) and soaks up he recoil of the 308 rather nicely (.223 would probably feel like a bb gun), but it is HEAVY. I punch paper off of a bipod at the range, so the weight is actually a plus, and it comes with a good buttpad. I don't like the standard FP stock, IMO it is a flimsy POS (tried one before I bought mine), and an extra $100 for the choate or HS is worth every penny. Basically from the factory you are getting a $100 credit for a $5 stock. If this is going to be a .223 walking varmint rifle, the 12 series laminated stock is sturdy, and fairly comfortable, the boyds thumbhole stocks savage used to use are just as strong, but even lighter, and more comfortable in any position other than standing, and the fluted barrels of the 12 series rifles cut the weight down even further.

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