Indian .308 what to do


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feedthehogs
August 19, 2007, 07:26 PM
Cleaning out the garage I found 3 50 cal ammo cans full of Indian .308 right where I left it after finding out while it was on its way that its junk and dangerous ammo.

Any ideas what can be done with it?

If anyone is in the west palm beach fla area, your welcome to it.

I'd hate just to bury it, but it may be the best idea.

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1 old 0311
August 19, 2007, 07:36 PM
Keep it. Someday even this stuff may be valuable.

RNB65
August 19, 2007, 07:36 PM
A few ideas --

Call local gun ranges and see if they'll dispose of it for you.

Or, buy a bullet puller and take the cartridges apart. Burn the powder and take the brass and bullets to a gun range for recycling.

Or, contact your local police or sheriff's department and they'll probably pick it up and dispose of it for you.

dmftoy1
August 19, 2007, 07:57 PM
I'd post this over in the handloading section . .there would probably be somebody who'd be happy to pulldown the ammo for the free bullets.

FWIW

strat81
August 19, 2007, 08:39 PM
+1 to asking in the reloading forum. If I had a .308, I'd pay you to ship it over to me.

lamazza
August 19, 2007, 10:00 PM
shoot it up in a rugged HK91

Psssniper
August 19, 2007, 10:17 PM
PM sent

W.E.G.
August 19, 2007, 11:02 PM
I'm sure you can sell it to an ammo vendor at any gun show.

Its not "junk."
Its just "questionable" ammo. I don't blame you for not wanting to shoot it. Still there are lots of folks who would not hesitate to put it in their guns, or at least spend a lot of time "pulling it down."

Don't throw it away, and PLEASE don't give it to the police to destroy.

canopy2k
August 19, 2007, 11:06 PM
What year of manufacture? New indian is crap. Early 80's is pretty decent.

Sunray
August 19, 2007, 11:16 PM
It's not dangerous. It's just unreliable. Doesn't always go bang.

bsf
August 19, 2007, 11:21 PM
If it is 70's era and is not completely trashed I may be interested in buying it from you. PM me. Thanks.

Feanaro
August 19, 2007, 11:54 PM
Send it to me. I ain't afraid of it. I'll even spot you the shipping. :D

nalioth
August 20, 2007, 12:07 AM
What year of manufacture? New indian is crap. Early 80's is pretty decent.
It's not dangerous. It's just unreliable. Doesn't always go bang.

I think you guys are gonna get somebody hurt. http://www.militaryfirearm.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=617&highlight=indian+ammo

After the British left, Quality Control left the building. Some of it is overpowdered, some of it underpowdered, brass is not to spec, etc, etc.

Unscrupulous vendors will try to sell it as "safe 70s production".

This is ammo the Indian army won't even shoot.

Indian ammo is dangerous. Please read the link above.

iamkris
August 20, 2007, 12:13 AM
PM sent

Ian Sean
August 20, 2007, 12:50 AM
I have gone through several 1000 rounds of various years of 70's Indian (2 FAL's and a semi-1919) with no problem. A little dirty and pretty inconsistant accuracy but great for plinking and I had no problems.

Bought a few hundred of 97, 98 and 00 headstamp and OMG :eek: Did a good pre-sort because of the bad rap on this stuff and culled out about 1 in 20. Brass was bad/ neck splits/ bad case heads...Even then I had SEVERAL SQUIBS! I put this stuff away and don't use it anymore.

I have about 200 rounds left...I am slowly tearing it down for components....I have measured some of the rounds I have torn down...getting powder variations of up to 5 grains + or - and several very light loads one only had 10 grains or so of powder.

I would avoid the later (90's and 00's) headstamps like the plague.

chemist308
August 20, 2007, 12:54 AM
Wow...I'm sorry to hear about your dangerous mil surplus ammo. I have a uh...method of disposal in my possession. You'd better give all that dangerous stuff to me for 'proper' disposal... :D

evan price
August 20, 2007, 01:27 AM
I've shot a lot of 1974 and 1975 OFV. It's not a Port or Hirt substitute but it's not bad blasting ammo. Just give 'em a lookover when you load them up and if you see anything odd, set it aside. So far no problems here. I'll take it if you don't want it. It's also boxer primed & reloadable.

Now a local gunstore had some 1998 OFV in the plastic bags for sale. Man, that stuff was crap. I looked over a handful of the bags and saw at least one or two rounds in each bag I would not have wanted to fire, setback was way off, banged up brass or projos, dented bullet tips, etc.

rangerruck
August 20, 2007, 01:39 AM
thrwo it in the sea, or put it in a garbage can, and fill with water. or soak the ammo cans full of water. I shot this stuff once, ONCE! that was all I needed to never shoot it again.

308nato
August 20, 2007, 01:56 AM
I will be glad to take it off your hands.
PM me and we can work out the details.

MisterPX
August 20, 2007, 02:27 AM
If it's OFV 70 something, it's fine. If you don't want tt, I'll jump in line for the stuff.

The 90'ss tuff is the KaBoom stuff.

feedthehogs
August 20, 2007, 10:38 AM
Its the OFV 90's stuff and even on reloading theres some question on the brass.
Too many questions and problems to make me risk injury or damage to one of my guns.

The old saying, If you have a 5 dollar head, buy a 5 dollar helmet.

That same can be said for guns and ammo.

Someone supposed to come by and pick it up for the components. Won't give it to someone if I know they will shoot it as it is.

MassMark
August 20, 2007, 03:57 PM
Yeah, new stuff is crapola...I had some 5-round bags of the stuff - could push some of the bullets into the case with little effort. Some I could pull the bullets out with little effort - stuff was sealed with roofing tar I think. I poured out all the powder and set it ablaze - the kids thought it was neat anyway.

Dig a cadre pit and blow it in place. Seriously though, pull the bullets and sell the brass....

evan price
August 21, 2007, 07:27 AM
The 90's stuff, even the brass was suspect...

eldon519
August 21, 2007, 08:37 AM
I've heard gun powder makes good fertilizer.

paintballdude902
August 21, 2007, 11:17 PM
care to part with it?

Sunray
August 21, 2007, 11:50 PM
"...brass is not to spec..." What spec? India isn't part of NATO and never has been. They use their own 'specs'.

nalioth
August 22, 2007, 02:13 PM
"...brass is not to spec..." What spec? India isn't part of NATO and never has been. They use their own 'specs'. Some of the brass of that vintage is not up to minimal safety specs.

MRIman
August 22, 2007, 11:40 PM
Well I hate to say it but between myself and friends
we have run over 12 "cans" of this stuff. Most through
G-3 type weapons. This stuff once went for @$50 per 640 rd can.
I'd buy 20 more cans if I could at that price.
Run the stuff,check for loose rounds first.

MRI

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