brentfoto
August 19, 2007, 10:15 PM
I'm bothered by the tang on the CZ-75B's digging into my shooting hand between thumb and forefinger. What are the remedies?
This is about the only unfavorable thing I find with the gun. The darn tang on the thing is turning me away from considering the gun for purchase due to future anticipated discomfort. One might think that thirty-two years of manufacture of such a fine pistol would have resulted in such a thing not being of concern to so many people.
Anyway, prompt replies appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Jim Watson
August 19, 2007, 10:40 PM
The SP01 version gets you a pronounced upswept ducktail that is more comfortable.
http://cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=73
I don't know if they have sent guns to be torn up and paid the bribe to beg for permission to sell that variant in the Schwartzenegger Reich, though.
brentfoto
August 19, 2007, 11:07 PM
Let's assume that I enjoy the gun and don't want any other, Jim. How can I remedy the situation? What can I do? Is this something that a gunsmith should handle? What would be the gunsmith's remedy if a 'smith must be engaged?
Jim Watson
August 20, 2007, 12:01 AM
The edge between the side of the frame and the backstrap and underside of the tang is pretty "crisp." Is that what bothers you? If so, it could be rounded and softened; maybe even heavily reshaped as shown at
http://p201.ezboard.com/fczechpistols82792frm15.showMessage?topicID=846.topic
I have seen comfortable beavertails welded or silver soldered onto Brownings, there is no reason it could not be done to a CZ, but neither of the CZ specialists I know of - Angus Hobdell and Jim Miossi - list it as a service.
Cylinder and Slide is the main BHP modifier and does it on their Pathfinder.
http://www.cylinder-slide.com/pathfinder167.shtml
Much to my surprise, the CZ75 SP-01 IS on the California roster of approved handguns, and has a nice wide smooth beavertail. It is unfortunately marred by a tactickle searchlight rail but it is otherwise CZ75 throughout.
brentfoto
August 20, 2007, 01:03 AM
Perhaps I did not express myself clearly.
The beavertail (tang?) most rearmost edge makes contact with the web of my grip hand (area between my thumb and forefinger) and it's a bit 'sharp' and bothers me even if I'm just dry-firing the gun. It sort of 'digs' into the skin there. It's mostly distracting, somewhat uncomfortable when holding the gun, and a bit of a PIA (or 'hand', for that matter) when shooting!
So remedy would be to round and soften it, and perhaps reshape?
I don't know why they could not have curved the beavertail 'up' more to avoid this problem. I'd speculate they want you to spend more for the version with the 'upswept' beavertail that you noted, above.
Jim Watson
August 20, 2007, 08:29 AM
I now see what you are talking about.
My hand is not very fleshy and my C75 does not even touch MY hand there.
I think it would be a bit risky to start grinding on the frame as in that CZforum thread. With an alteration like that, the gun would be yours forever whether it was comfortable or not. But that and paying more for the SP-01 with "beavertail" seem to be your only options.
brentfoto
August 20, 2007, 11:53 AM
I don't understand. My hand is not particularly 'fleshy' there either.
I DO keep my grip up on the backstrap of the gun, as I do with any other gun. I do not grip 'low' on the backstrap.
I just find this whole thing to be disturbing, and I'm hesitant to go with the other gun (Steyr M40-A1) due to lack of proven track record. I intend to shoot either gun A LOT.
I have another thread dealing with that in the autoloader section:
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=297011
Well, I think that I'll just rent the CZ, again, today, and shoot it at my range. They don't have one in 40, though.
Anyway, see how I feel about it with the 9mm and the effect on my hand.
The gun was quite 'dirty' last time I shot it and there were multiple jams. Maybe they will clean at my request and I will have a more favorable impression.