Can 870 Police question....again
phantomak47
August 20, 2007, 01:54 PM
The the topic of the Police 870 comes up a lot here, I admit I have posted a few times about them, after talking to a few knowledgeable Highroaders, I have decided to get one.
The only question I have is the following possible.
Ordering a 870 Police with an extended tube?
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ilmonster
August 20, 2007, 02:32 PM
Yup. Go to remingtonle.com and it will show a model 4903 (wood, 18", extension) in addition to other models with all manner of stocks, barrel lengths, sights, etc.
I ordered a Police model from my local police supply house no problem (I'm not an LEO either, they will sell them to us civilians - except for the 14" models!) Good luck!
Man With A Gun
August 20, 2007, 06:43 PM
The Remington Police is a good choice.
The extended mag is not. Very heavy, slows the weapon down and not really needed since reloading is faster than you think.
The Remington has a "lifter" for the shells which used to catch on the shell rim and hang the gun up. I understand Remington has made tremendous efforts to correct this problem.
I could extol the virtues of our ITHACA TACTICAL SHOTGUN which will soon be out but (1) I am biased (2) this is not the place (3) I cannot reveal the details just yet. I can say, it is a cool shotgun, fast to fire, faster to load, looks wicked and will NOT kick you into next week.
In testing it we deleted the extended mag for the reasons above and the fact that if they are hit, bent etc they will not feed and may jam the action or not allow you to reload......making for a very bad day.
Avenger29
August 20, 2007, 08:16 PM
The Remington Police is a good choice.
Yep
The extended mag is not. Very heavy, slows the weapon down and not really needed since reloading is faster than you think.
If he wants to have an extended mag, it ain't gonna hurt. I just don't have one on mine due to the fact that I like to be able to break it down quickly and easily. You still can't reload faster than pumping the action.
The Remington has a "lifter" for the shells which used to catch on the shell rim and hang the gun up. I understand Remington has made tremendous efforts to correct this problem.
Remington developed the Flextab shell elevator, if that is what you are referring to. However, Dave McCracken, through his extensive shooting of the Remington 870, noted that he had not had the problem the Flextab rectified unless he induced it. He also said that the thing to do to correct a misfeed in that case was to slam the butt against the floor until it came loose.
I could extol the virtues of our ITHACA TACTICAL SHOTGUN which will soon be out but (1) I am biased (2) this is not the place (3) I cannot reveal the details just yet. I can say, it is a cool shotgun, fast to fire, faster to load, looks wicked and will NOT kick you into next week.
Ithacas are nice guns, but the 870 is just as good.
In testing it we deleted the extended mag for the reasons above and the fact that if they are hit, bent etc they will not feed and may jam the action or not allow you to reload......making for a very bad day.
You will, however, want to put a good magazine clamp on an extended tube if you decide to use one. Heck, I'd put two clamps on or get one of the Marine contract clamps that is really beefed up.
dfariswheel
August 21, 2007, 12:11 AM
If offered a choice of an 870 with or without a factory extension, ALWAYS TAKE THE EXTENSION.
First, Remington factory extensions are expensive and hard to get as an after-market accessory. If you don't take it with the gun, you'll find it hard and expensive to get one later.
Second, if you don't like it, you can easily take it off and convert to a standard magazine.
This requires buying only a spring, spring retainer, and magazine cap.
These are cheap and easy to get.
Even if you're SURE you don't want it, you can sell it at a good profit to someone who does.
bigcim
August 21, 2007, 01:41 AM
Has anyone had any experience on buying leo seconds in california
bigcim
August 22, 2007, 01:45 AM
anyone
Fred Fuller
August 22, 2007, 06:14 AM
Not in CA, but I have bought them in AL and NC. Wouldn't hesitate to pick up a good used ex-LEO 870, they get carried a lot and not shot much. Just evaluate it carefully for internal condition and function, anything that is a real problem (bent barrel, dented magazine tube etc) is going to show up if you go over the gun well.
And I wouldn't hesitate to get one with a Remington factory extended magazine if available.
lpl/nc
hamourkiller
August 22, 2007, 07:32 AM
My Father and I have had one each since the mid 70's.
(1976 I think) These guns have never jamed and are great. 8 loads of #1 buck 2 3/4" baby magnums = 160 .30 cal pellets down range as fast as you can shuck it. Hard to beat for volume of lead per loading.
We keep an elastic shell holder on the stock so another 5 rounds is available. If you do a tactical reload that gives you 13 rds available at 20 pellets = 260 .30 cal pellets down range just with ammo on the gun.
With the rifle sights and standard slugs you can easily engage a target to 75yds or so.
Very versatile and deadly, after Rita and lookyloo's came out of the woodwork, I was never outside wothout my 870 police riot model. The message was clear and universely understood. Dont mess with me.
Man With A Gun
August 22, 2007, 01:46 PM
ITHACA is about to arm the LA Sheriff's Department with our new tactical shotgun. Should be about 7,000 guns.
They got the old Ithaca Mod 37 from LAPD which were about 10+ years old when they got them.
Each shotgun has been cared for by an amorer and all parts replaced which were even worn. These are tough guns. We have some over 50 years still in service.
I do not know when the transition will take place BUT I am told the company may take the older M37's back. Perhaps they will make it to a market place and be sold off. I will try to alert this area if that goes down.
These older guns are hand made from forged steel. That's all good EXCEPT for one thing; IF a part breaks it has to be hand fitted at the factory.
The new tactical guns have CNC machined from forged steel and are so close in tolerances the parts can be interchanged. These are the best guns ITHACA has ever made.
Good luck on your purchase.
mballai
August 22, 2007, 02:48 PM
Remington 870s are possibly the most reliable guns on earth. I agree that you should try to get the gun in whatever configuration you want.
Pat_Rogers
August 22, 2007, 03:13 PM
Man with a Gun- can you e mail me info@eagtactical.com please?
www.eagtactical.com
bigcim
August 22, 2007, 10:16 PM
I need to know if they sell these in Los Angeles and how to acquire them
Cocked & Locked
August 23, 2007, 12:07 AM
Here's a pic of the Remington 870 I recently bought used. It is the Police Magnum version and can use 3" shells. I bought if for $240 OTD and added a Wilson Combat magazine extension.
Mine has a 20" barrel and is Improved Cylinder choke instead of Cylinder Bore. The Imp. Cyl. was a deciding factor in my buying it.
The loaded extended magazine does add to the front end weight, but will lighten quickly when a running bucks burst out of the brush. ;)
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL523/3082611/6263277/268027575.jpg
farscott
August 23, 2007, 06:42 AM
C&L,
Great deal on that 870. Love those old Police Magnum guns.
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