Keyed gun cabinet... "Where's da key?"


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Ironbarr
July 4, 2003, 05:25 PM
Don't know why, but I have a problem as to where I should put the key when away from the house. It seems that no matter where I stash it, it doesn't make sense - easy to find.

Without giving away the farm, folks ... any ideas??

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chaim
July 4, 2003, 06:07 PM
Keep it on your keychain so it always goes with you. For the spare key give it to a friend you trust, significant other, brother, sister, parent keep it on another key chain that goes with you, keep it in your glove box, put it in a drawer in your kitchen with a bunch of other keys (no one will know what key is for what, except hopefully you), etc.

Lone_Gunman
July 4, 2003, 07:20 PM
I would also like to know everyone's social security number, credit card info, mother's name, and PIN numbers.

No abbreviations, please.

Ironbarr
July 4, 2003, 07:36 PM
Without giving away the farm, folks ... any ideas?? My caveat. :)

Hand_Rifle_Guy
July 4, 2003, 07:37 PM
Safe deposit box? That's where I'd put it, or a spare, anyhow, along with a defense-worthy stashgun and a box or three of good ammo.

Sven
July 4, 2003, 08:33 PM
Ask your wife or girlfriend.

Yeah - HRG got his car back!

Kentucky Rifle
July 5, 2003, 10:18 AM
All keys, even those little Taurus and S&W keys are on a ring in my pocket 24/7. If I set my keys down somewhere, they would be GONE in ONE MINUTE. Same for my wallet, my EDC pocket knives~~~anything I set down...goes away. <DAMMIT>

KR

Greg L
July 5, 2003, 10:31 AM
Back when we had a different headboard for our bed I kept it there. Each side of the bed had a little cabinet area for storage and a light for reading. When you opened the door to the cabinet there was a space of about 3" (where the light was recessed into) above the top of the door before you got to the top of the headboard. I put a nail up near the top and hung the key off of that. There was enough wood there that you couldn't see it hanging down and with the light on if you somehow twisted your body around to look up in there you would be semi-blinded and couldn't see it anyway.

If you look around your place there are probably hundreds of similar places/ideas. The thing you want is that it is hidden but easy to get to. If you have to stand on your head to put the key away or get it out then you will quickly stop using the place. With my headboard I just had to reach up and hang it on the nail. It was easily accessable but hidden from sight. The inside frame of a kitchen cabinet would probably work also.

These days the key is on my keychain and the spare is in a new place.

Greg

TarpleyG
July 5, 2003, 10:56 AM
I put the spare in the document safe and the other one always goes with me.

GT

280PLUS
July 5, 2003, 11:10 AM
:D

Captain Bligh
July 5, 2003, 11:54 AM
I take the keys to cabinet, cases, trigger locks, etc. with me everywhere I go. I keep a spare set in my office desk at work.

When I was a kid, my Dad always kept his key hidden in the house. When he was gone, it was short work for me to find where he hid the key and gain access to admire and handle the guns.

Now I have kids at home and I wouldn't want them being like me. And, I figure if an overly curious kid can find a hidden key in short order, so can a burglar.

RJ

Kentucky Rifle
July 5, 2003, 12:23 PM
..one of those safes with the nice, lighted keypad. I mean~What could be nicer? Punch a few buttons and the safe door pops open. Then, I read a few posts which said the bad guys have figured out how to short those pads out with a nine volt radio battery, and quickly get into your safe. Scared me just enough to get the old dial-type combination lock. I thought a nice touch was a small key that locks the dial at "0". Hope there's nothing wrong with THAT system! It's dark in my safe though. I think I'm going to get one of those battery operated, stick-on lights. Good idea???

KR

Redlg155
July 5, 2003, 01:53 PM
I have three keys. One is kept on me, one with the wife and the third in a discreet location. We keep them on our car/van key chains and always keep one set (either hers or mine) in the safe lock whenever we are at home. We keep them there so we won't forget to secure the safe before leaving and so we can have quick access.

It's just too tricky to try to remember a combination in the middle of the night in a stressful situation, much less dial it correctly. The key is a definite plus.

Good Shooting
Red

JeepDriver
July 5, 2003, 02:02 PM
I keep the one key one me at all times and the other is locked safely away inside of another safe in another house.

gryphon
July 5, 2003, 03:39 PM
Gun cabinet has a keyles entry system, so key's don't matter to me. I keep the ones for it with me.

Keypad combo for gun cabinet is 8675309. :D

Wanderer
July 5, 2003, 06:33 PM
Was at friends house once and saw a gun cabinet that needed a key, I felt on top of the cabinet BOOM! there's the key. no problem...

TarpleyG
July 6, 2003, 09:35 AM
Then, I read a few posts which said the bad guys have figured out how to short those pads out with a nine volt radio battery, and quickly get into your safe.
I think this is hype and BS. Don't you think the manufacturer of said safe thought about this while making it up? Probably. And, they probably made it so this cannot be done.

GT

bubbygator
July 6, 2003, 10:17 AM
My mfgr's Operating Manual for my bedside pistol safe says that application of 9V batteries will disable the electronic mechanism.

I have a combination-operated keysafe in which I keep all my spare keys. It's appearance and location is disguised. My wife and grown children know of it.

sm
July 6, 2003, 11:41 AM
Preacherman and I both can attest to electronic keypads can be circumvented. I had to try it - yep it works.

We all know to NOT advertise security keys in public, to NOT leave vehicle for repair or give valet parking key rings-but instead to use spare keys for this...address in on registration.

Except for my CCW , my stuff kept elsewhere. I do have secure place for piddly stuff I don't want Apt mgt, or maint to readily get tempted. I use a multiple key system, keys cannot be duplicated, different types of key designs used, all keys must be present and sequenced. Ex-con educated me on some stuff , I heeded his advice.

Anything can be circumvented, keypad real easy. Multiple keys harder .

Actually the story goes the BEST safes in the world are In Iran/Iraq. They do not use combo dials at all. Multiple Keys system. Word is that's where the Swiss , British, and others came up with it. Americans being lazy did the combo dial idea. But I've always heard the story about those BEST safes using keys.

All 3 of us had to be present to open safe. We never traveled, ate, stayed in same hotel , couldn't ride with each other. Insurance and Bonding regs.

Ironbarr
July 6, 2003, 12:48 PM
I've been monotoring - not talking. This is becoming a great education.
Thank you - and - please continue.

-IB

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