[357-8-times]

I know some of them are stamped Made in America, but they look awfully like the old Nazi guns of WW2- or am I mixing it up with Luger?

[22-rimfire]

You talking about the 22? Made in America. I believe they use the same grip angle as the German Luger in the Mark II series.

[BlkHawk73]

There's Rugers and Lugers. Two completely different models.

Luger:
http://http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Auto-Pistols/Luger_P-08.jpg

Ruger:http://http://www.herrett-stocks.com/images/hmk2full.jpg

[ArmedBear]

The Ruger is a German gun. The Luger is a cheap Japanese copy (the translator was fired soon afterward for telling an American gun writer that he had lice when they were at dinner.)

Wilhelm B Ruger, famous Nazi gun designer from Brooklyn, New York:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7b/Bill_ruger.jpg/300px-Bill_ruger.jpg

[JackDRipper]

Wilhelm B Ruger, famous Nazi gun designer from Brooklyn, New York:


Funny!
JR

[Heavy Metal Hero]

ArmedBear, I think he is confused enough already...

[MCgunner]

Rofl!

[ArmedBear]

What I've found is that, when I have a crappy old Luger, I can toss it in this stuff for a half hour on the stove, and I'll have a decent Browning. I do have to thoroughly degrease it first.

http://www.dixiegunworks.com/images/LA1301.JPG

[Ron James]

357-8-times:) , I don't want to hurt your feelings, but have you been taking your meds?

[Cougfan2]

Es das ist ein 10/22? Ja das ist ein 10/22. :D

[ArmedBear]

What's worst, really, is the wiki-washing.

Wikipedia tells this bogus story about how Alex Sturm and Bill Ruger founded Sturm, Ruger & Co. here in the US, when everyone knows they were both just a couple of Nazis like Albert Einstein, or maybe Soviet plants like Ayn Rand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_B._Ruger

[Cosmoline]

Go easy. Before I knew better I thought exactly the same thing. The names are similar, and the plinker kind of looks like a Luger. So I thought maybe Ruger was some knockoff of Luger with one letter difference to avoid the TM problems. If you consider Ruger's rather Germanic looking emblem it gets more confusing.

And some people might say Billy boy was a nazi, but that's an entirely different thread ;-)

[Ala Dan]

Stoeger use to import a .22 caliber firearm that closely resembled the Luger;
but NO Ruger's are as American as Chevrolet, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie, and
Baseball~! :D;)

[ArmedBear]

Before I knew better I thought exactly the same thing.

That was probably before they invented das gűgel.

[Cosmoline]

True, but I was looking through Gun Digest at the time so I don't have any real excuse. Firearms are confusing, there's no two ways about it. For a long time I couldn't figure out if single action revolvers were firearms or some sort of farm equipment. I just couldn't figure out how someone would shoot one. Then I got an Italian clone and it all made sense after the first few rounds.

[2RCO]

Uhhh What? I have had a Mark II confused with a Luger by non gunners before so I can see where this is coming from and they do have a similar look. Really want to confuse non gunners show the a c96 mauser heh-heh!

[ArmedBear]

I have had a Mark II confused with a Luger by non gunners before

I can see the resemblance, though. It's up to us to educate non-gunners.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Continental_Mark_II_rear.jpg/200px-Continental_Mark_II_rear.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/DWM_4_inch_Navy_Luger_859.jpg/300px-DWM_4_inch_Navy_Luger_859.jpg

[Zundfolge]

Ruger's are as American as Chevrolet, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie, and
Baseball~!

and Chuck Schumer,Diane Feinstein, and Sara Brady. :P

[P97]

I remember in 1959, while in High School, I got a Ruger .22 Auto. I can remember having to explain that it was not a Luger, but a Ruger. Then. all most people knew was the German Lugers.

[tipoc]

The resemblance ain't accidental.

tipoc

[Cosmoline]

I believe the Ruger plinkers were designed to resemble their more expensive competition--the Colt Woodsman. So I think the resemblance is accidental. Certainly the Luger is no blowback.

[Father Knows Best]

Achtung! Das Ruger is Nicht fur Gerfingerpoken und Mittengrabben! Ist easy Schnappen der Springenwerk, Krackenbend und Fingerpritzen mit Smudgensmeer! Das Machen der Owner Stormenfumen!

[tipoc]

Actually the Luger was on their minds. While you are right about the Colt and High Standard guns being the preferred .22 plinkers and target .22s pistols of the time, Bill Ruger patterned the new gun to look like a Luger. The Luger had a mystique to it so they picked up on a little of that. The original Ruger had a similiar tapered barrel, round trigger guard, and general shape to the grip frame that is remiscent of the Luger and of no other gun. That the names were similiar didn't hurt either. Ruger and Sturm were both smart fellas. No, of course the pistol didn't need a toggle link, etc. The Ruger was made of stamped sheet metal and a .22. All it had to do was to shoot as well as it's costlier competition and pick up on the fame of the Luger a bit. For their first gun it was a big hit. R.L. Wilson's book on Ruger and John Dougans works make the point on this.

Just as folks today still mistake a Ruger SA for the Colts they were modeled on so some look at a Ruger .22 and think "Luger".

tipoc

[zinj]

I heard that the Ruger .22s were modeled after the Type 14 Nambu (not the suicide special Type 94).

[Jim K]

There is an amusing sidelight to the Ruger/Luger confusion. Just before the Ruger .22 auto came out, there was a pistol on the market called the Kruger. It was a scaled down model of the Luger, made of plastic and firing a shot pellet propelled by a toy cap. The advertising was highly deceptive and some folks thought they were buying a genuine Luger (for $2.49!). When the Ruger appeared, many people thought the gun was either a renamed Kruger or yet another plastic fake, and refused to buy it. In spite of that, the Ruger sold and Sturm Ruger was in business to stay.

Here is the Kruger, with a real, genuine Luger for comparison:

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=44374&d=1157409509

(Incidentally, Stoeger owns the "Luger" trademark in the U.S. and has since at least the 1920's. That is why they were able to call that .22 pistol they sold a "Luger" and bill it as the only "genuine" .22 Luger.)

Jim

[ArmedBear]

Achtung! Das Ruger is Nicht fur Gerfingerpoken und Mittengrabben! Ist easy Schnappen der Springenwerk, Krackenbend und Fingerpritzen mit Smudgensmeer! Das Machen der Owner Stormenfumen!

ROTFLMAO!

Seems nobody else knew enough German to understand why this is funny.

Here's a hint: you don't have to know much.:)

[tipoc]

It is easier to take down a Luger.

Also why is this in the Revolver section maybe he's mistaken a Luger for a Ruger Single Six!

tipoc

[357-8-times]

:neener: Yeah, just keep laughing- I will respond when I am done reloading... :p

By far the funniest post was definitely the comparison of a Luger and a Ruger [Lincoln] Mark!

In my defense there is a lot of similarity between the Ruger and Luger:
http://www.project-x.org.uk/images/picgfsruger22.jpg
http://www.badb.co.uk/acatalog/Luger3866b.jpg
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/images/Ruger-Mk-I-web.jpg

And the logo seems to fit right in:
http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin/user_upload/s/sleeve-ss-em.jpghttp://www.bghi.us/hunt_pics/ruger_logo.gifhttp://www.pzg.biz/168p.jpg

Despite all the jest at my expense; can I conclude that Ruger is all American- the company, manufacturing plants, founders and all?

[sfhogman]

Yup. The whole shebang is American. I think you need to go out and buy a few Rugers. Me, I'd start with a Single-Six....

Jeff

[Father Knows Best]

ROTFLMAO!

Seems nobody else knew enough German to understand why this is funny.

Here's a hint: you don't have to know much.
Ja! Das Bär mit Gewehr ist sehr schmart.

[JMACDONALD]

In Ordnung. In Ordnung. In Ordnung. Lässt sich entspannt auf dem Kind. Seines, nicht wie er lebt, isst, und Atemschusswaffen, wie wir machen. Sie durften erbärmlich für ihn fühlen. Außer Vergleichen von einem Ruger firebird zu einem nazistischen Adler. Gut tschüs.

[def4pos8]

Gutes Gott im Himmel! Some of y'all have been on this side of the pond WAY too long for your own good!!

When does your Stamtische meet?

Waidmannsheil! (I think.)

[Kimber1911_06238]

Ruger is based in Connecticut...so no, they aren't German

[tipoc]

To those in the know it's Konnectescutburg.

tipoc

[wad]

Don't know about German, but this French made Manurhin looks very much like a Ruger Speed-Six.


http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=11568

[fletcher]

Here's a hint: you don't have to know much.

I know I ruv those Rugers ;)

[4v50 Gary]

Thanks for that photo Wad. That Manurin certainly looks like a Ruger, until the removable sideplate is seen on the right side of the frame.

[22-rimfire]

The Germans knew something about designing handguns that point like your finger. The similarities are not accidental no matter how much joking goes on.

Hold your hand out and point your finger like you were holding a gun. I bet your hand rotates to just about the Luger, ah Ruger, grip angle. Woodsman, same deal.

[Vern Humphrey]

I heard that the Ruger .22s were modeled after the Type 14 Nambu
Bill Ruger made several prototype models, including one based on the Nambu grip and general shape. He finally settled on the Luger grip model and a shape generally resembling the Luger.

[dhoomonyou]

Sounds like Gilda Radnor as Emily Littella.

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