Slide Lube For Polymer Framed Pistols


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Mike J
August 25, 2007, 06:38 PM
Last week I purchased a new XD-40. This is my first polymer framed pistol. I really like this gun and want to make sure I maintain it properly. So far I have been using Remoil on the slide. Is there anything else out there that would work better?

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dstorm1911
August 25, 2007, 07:12 PM
Actually this one is going on 23,000 rnds

only lube used is military LSA here in the heat and dust of Tucson AZ, sorry bout pics they are the inventory pics not really intended for the net etc... this gun is carried daily and spends a large part of its time carried in a plastic holster while blastin through brush etc.. cross the desert via dirt bike, it gets soaked by monsoon rains and filled with AZ sand and dust........ I really like when the glock guys say the original XD finish won't hold up LOL....... this ones holdin up just fine

I just walked out to the range and fired ya a 40 yard test target, just taped a playin card to the center of the 40 yrd steel plate 180 grn laser cast over 4.6 grns of HS6 in speer cases 2 mags with multiple hits to the large ragged hole lower left of joker and lower center were it tore the high hits were first shots fired walked em down for center......... the same gun will kill cofee cans all day long at 100 yards with 165 grn swagged bullets I make myself but the 180s were close at hand so thats what I grabbed only mods to the gun was trigger job by myself long before Canyon creek started doin the same work its set at 3lbs zero over travel with 1/32" take up once the trigger safty is at full depression and its got after market Sig night sights otherwise its totally original

byf43
August 25, 2007, 07:25 PM
Last week I purchased a new XD-40. This is my first polymer framed pistol. I really like this gun and want to make sure I maintain it properly. So far I have been using Remoil on the slide. Is there anything else out there that would work better?


Several suggestions for lubricating the slide.

1. Breakfree CLP
2. Militec-1
3. KleenBore TW-25B
4. Lubri-Plate
5. Mobil 1

RNB65
August 25, 2007, 07:32 PM
I use BF CLP for general lube and a thin layer of Mobile 1 synthetic grease on the frame rails of all my pistols. They all run reliably.

James T Thomas
August 25, 2007, 08:55 PM
I have no idea whether this would work any better, but it occurred to me that automotive Polyethylene grease might some how work well.

sm
August 25, 2007, 11:57 PM
Whichever product has the best applicator tip is my suggestion.
Seriously.
:)

I personally only own one Polymer gun, and I won't own another.
Name something, I have used it, including the dipstick from my truck, to use the oil or Automatic Transmission Fluid.

I currently have a new needle oiler with my name on it, if and when I run by and get it.

Now for me, and the folks I hang with, from kids to some adult with Cancer, I have been Using Ballistol.

Kentak
August 26, 2007, 12:09 AM
Tetra Gun Grease works really well on the rails of my Glock. So would bacon grease, probably, but it smells funny.

FieroCDSP
August 26, 2007, 12:32 AM
Almost any real grease or heavy oil works well for a while. How fast it cooks off is the issue. I've used RiG grease on mine for almost a year now. It's a little messy, but lasts easily 200 rounds in my pistols. I've recently tried Weapon Shield CLP and it seems to do okay.

but it occurred to me that automotive Polyethylene grease might some how work well.

If it's like the stuff I've put into a headlight motor, it'll lube okay, but will probbly break down with the high temps associated with firearms.

sm
August 26, 2007, 12:46 AM
Rare I use grease on rails...

RIG+P, STOS, PlastiLube, Lubriplate, or Lithium
My "use" for grease is hinge pins for shotguns, and screw in choke tubes.

dstorm1911
August 26, 2007, 01:35 AM
If I remember I'll get a pic of the rails in that XD 40 Tac. there is zero as in no sign of any rail wear at all, I keep a log of number of rounds through it as it was my first Polymere gun and impressed me so much I hadda get the whole set plus a few Taurus milpros and a few Keltec P3ATs everything gets the same lube LSA I figure if its good enough for Browning .50 BMG chambered machine guns under combat its good enough for my stuff and at $5 per quart the price is right, if all ya own is the XD then that quart will last ya many many years....

Unless your xd has some serious issues ya will never see any rail wear even if ya go with no lube as long as the slide and rails are clean, when they Torture tested onea the original 9 mms they ran it for a few thousand rnds totally degreased with no trace of wear thats onea the things that convinced me to try one out.. and that test gun hadn't been cleaned at all other than a bore snake down the tube for I think it was 17K rounds

Rustynuts
August 26, 2007, 09:34 AM
+1 Tetra grease, plus GunButter (not necessarily together!). Eezox also after a good cleaning for superior corrosion resistance on the metal parts.

bakert
August 26, 2007, 12:12 PM
All of the lubes mentioned are good. I use Shooter's Choice All Weather High Tech grease on the rails of all my autos. Very Sparingly. A little bit goes a long way. Far too many people use way too much lube on guns and it will collect dirt, soot, firing debris and other stuff.

Mike J
August 27, 2007, 10:53 PM
Meant to get back sooner just wanted to thank everyone who posted for their suggestions. Also Nice shooting dstorm-you're a better shot than I am. T

Geronimo45
August 27, 2007, 11:00 PM
Blinker fluid. :p

dstorm1911
August 28, 2007, 01:03 AM
Geronimo45, naw its bein wasted by the gallons by every "Swift" "JB Hunt" and "Wearner" truck driver on the interstates the price has went through the roof as a result....

MikeJ, thanks, benifit of shooting many many rounds every single day ;) gotta love my "jobs" LOL

Black Majik
August 28, 2007, 03:18 PM
+1 to Tetra Lube grease. I prefer grease for my polymers for some reason. I give a light oil floater on top of the grease also.

Worked well so far.

obxned
August 29, 2007, 06:34 PM
I like the bacon grease idea: I could get the dogs to clean my guns!

CitoriXT
August 30, 2007, 01:45 PM
I've been using Militec-1 oil and grease for a long time and recommend them highly.

Whirlwind06
August 30, 2007, 02:31 PM
I just started using automotive lithium grease. Pump it from the grease gun into a small tube I got from Brownells. That had tetra grease or something like that. So far so good.

crankshop1000
August 30, 2007, 02:40 PM
+1 on Milspec LSA There is no reason to use anything else.LSA has undergone the most extensive development and testing on the planet and it is the best.

Clean97GTI
August 31, 2007, 06:54 AM
I use a little copper grade anti-seize compound. A little bit dabbed on the rails goes a long way and works beautifully.

kb2iaw
August 31, 2007, 07:25 AM
anyone ever try mold release... its used to spray into or onto molds to ease the removal of injection plastics . I sprayed some on a q-tip and applied to the groves on the rail,worked swell for me . It`s slick as owl snot .

camacho
August 31, 2007, 08:40 AM
Breakfree CLP! There is a lot of stuff out there that will do the job but you can't go wrong with the CLP! Have been using it for a while and has performed superbly.

You can also read a review on lubricants here:
http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html

WeedWhacker
August 31, 2007, 09:05 AM
Another CLP user here. I use it on everything from the AKs to the Glocks. ... I really should start buying the stuff by the gallon.

P97
August 31, 2007, 09:44 AM
Since it hasn't been mentioned, I use Eezox. Have for a couple of years and like it. :)

Highland Ranger
August 31, 2007, 12:59 PM
I use miltec stuff on the whole gun - nothing special for the rails and not too much of it in any event - too much = dirt magnet = more wear

Clean97GTI
September 2, 2007, 08:13 AM
anyone ever try mold release... its used to spray into or onto molds to ease the removal of injection plastics . I sprayed some on a q-tip and applied to the groves on the rail,worked swell for me . It`s slick as owl snot .
Probably a silicone type lubricant. They use a similar product on tires when they come out of the molds.

ZeSpectre
September 2, 2007, 09:10 AM
Used Breakfree CLP for a long time, then switched to Militec-1, now use WeaponShield CLP. See post # 27 on this thread "What lube is this (http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250588&page=2)" for my testing results and opinion.

TX1911fan
September 2, 2007, 12:08 PM
Just FYI, I spoke with Springfield Armory's custom shop about lube, and was told that they do not recommend grease on any of their guns, especially XDs. Just a high quality gun oil.

sm
September 2, 2007, 01:15 PM
Re: oil not grease

Yep, way I was raised.

Blued guns have some advantages over Steel Guns.

Back in the day, AMT Hardballer - Stainless Steel Guns, were exhibiting galling.

Never had that problem with Blued Guns, due to metallurgy, heat treat, elasticity and all sorts of other words, terms, and what not.
Bluing in essence, is a form of "controlled rust" and offers some (again big words and technical stuff) and ...well...just common sense and inspect and maintain , we never had a problem with Blued Guns.

AMT recommended a Two Cycle motorcycle oil (brand name escapes me) and a touch of Lithium grease on the rails. Oh, and Dexcron Automatic Trans Fluid.
in lieu of the Two Stroke oil ["whichever you have, and most handy to use"]

This was a big "unheard of", putting grease on rails of a pistol at the time.
Shotgun hinge pins, Plastilube in the yellow tubs for M1 and all, grease was done, but on a pistol?


Stainless Steel is "stain" + "less". It will rust.

Galling had to do with again, the Stainless , composition of the steel, heat treat and all. Frame and Slides were the same composition.

Once AMT and other folks doing Stainless changed the Slide and Frames - galling stopped.

Slide was composed of a different metallurgy of "stainless" and the Frames were composed of different properties of "stainless".

RIG, came out with RIG+P to assist with Galling as well.

Great Equipment Race was heating up, lots of money to be made building guns , and Stainless Slides and Frames of same composition , needed RIG+P, or some other "grease" to prevent galling.

Blued Guns never had this 'galling problem", did not have/ still do not have some problems "stainless" guns have.

Even the Colt Lt Wt Commander , Blue steel and aluminum did not / do not have problems.

Even back in the day, folks were shooting 100-300 a day , most every day of the week . Some were putting up to 3,000 rds a week gthru a Stock Colt Series 70, Blue, and not cleaning the guns but once a week.

Just lock the slide back, add OIL to rails, end of muzzle, shut slide, Oil the top of where barrel meets hood, and kept on shooting.

Unwritten Rule : Never show up with a clean gun to compete.

Best Oil: Whatever was in the Shooting Kits, given out, and handy.

Hoppe's Lubricating Oil, LSA, Browning, Kleenbore Formula 3, Outers, Marbles....

Including, Dexcron ATF Fluid in them really neat brass oiler bottles , with a needle spout, the Folks put in the kit.
Best Recall that Gulf Dexcron ATF was only 29 cents a quart at the time.
Exactly what these oilers were filled with.
Rest of that Quart, was for folks to fill whatever bottle they had - as the biggest deal, was what container dispensed oil where one wanted it.

WE really really liked these little brass oilers with a "O" ring.

Guns runs - period. Folks putting a lot of trigger time in, and cleaning cut into shooting and getting good at shooting, with the 3,000 rounds a week.

Shotgun folks were doing this too, no big deal to shoot 8 boxes [200 rounds] or more a day.
Browning O/U shotgun said to NOT use grease on hinge pins...just use the Browning Oil.

Blue Steel guns, running and gunning, and high round counts.
1911s, BHPs, Smith & Wesson Semi's...

The Colt 1911s of Stainless Steel, never galled, as the Slide and Frame were of different properties.

Polymer: Supposed to be "better" - right?
Ya'll gonna let a old fashioned , blue steel 1911, BHP with just ATF, Browning gun oil , Formula 3, Hoppe's, Singer Sewing Machine Oil, LSA, ...
best ya?

I mean all this Before Don Yoder called me about rust in places doing plating, and the plating salts .
He sent me some, to see how shop equipment held up with this Breakfree stuff...little cough syrup bottle for me to try.


But I recall the day I/ we playing with a AMT Hardballer and we had dunked it in gasoline, to finally clean it. Air hosed it off and nobody had any Plastilube, RIG + P , Lubriplate, Lithium and ...one fella had just had his truck's oil changed and lube job at the Ammoco.
Got some of that grease that smushed out from the lube job, and some ATF off his dipstick, lubed her up, loaded her up, and just shot the darn gun...
ran like a top she did.

critrxdoc
September 2, 2007, 02:48 PM
Rem-Oil is what I use. I don't think it really matters much. The keys are not to use too much, hit the right spots. Less is more with the lubrication! The XD manual should have some pics of where to hit the frame.

brickeyee
September 2, 2007, 05:32 PM
+1 on Milspec LSA There is no reason to use anything else."

I just prefer something that is not ridiculously overpriced.
Even at $14 a quart that is $56 a gallon.
We even have a new name "synthetic metal conditioner".

"LSA has undergone the most extensive development and testing on the planet and it is the best."

And since none of this has been published in any per reviewed journals it is just marketing BS.
Probably why the stuff is so overpriced.
Maybe they add gold dust?

Nikdfish
September 2, 2007, 07:17 PM
Brownell's Action Lube, based on a non-petroleum synthetic, works well for me using just the smallest amount (just a very thin film). Also good for sear/trigger/hammer engagement areas. A thin film can also be used to provide finish protection. I've been using the same 2 oz. container for 5 or 10 years.

Nick

shooter1
September 2, 2007, 09:01 PM
Armorall !!! Works great on plastic!!
str1

Ala Dan
September 2, 2007, 09:03 PM
Another vote for the Tetra Gun Grease~! Works well for all applications,
when coating a semi-auto rail~! ;):D

Rokman
September 3, 2007, 06:40 PM
My poly guns aren't very picky. Just choose one of the many guality gun lubes and remember to not over-do it. Tetra oil would be a good starting place.

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