What models have fixed barrels?


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MikePGS
August 25, 2007, 07:23 PM
I tried to search, but for some reason the function seems to be disabled for me. Anyways, what (aside from H&K P7's) model of autopistol's have fixed barrels? Are there any aside from the H&K P7?

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Snake Eyes
August 25, 2007, 07:27 PM
Makarov. I believe the Sig 230 & 232 had fixed barrels, but my ex-wife got mine and I can't remember for sure.

esq_stu
August 25, 2007, 07:28 PM
Walther PPK, Makarov, Bersa 380s; P38 9mm come to mind

KevininPa
August 25, 2007, 07:34 PM
.....Hi-Points! Actually, I had a C-9 and can't fault it. Put a couple thousand rounds of Wolf thru it without a hiccup. Now I wish I kept it for a car gun.


Kevin in Pa

Scottmkiv
August 25, 2007, 08:30 PM
Most .22 autloaders have fixed barrels.

GunTech
August 25, 2007, 09:13 PM
Almost any pistol in a cartridge less that 9mm can have a fixed barrel. In fact the number of 380 and smaller caliber pistols that don't use simple blowback are pretty limited.

For the high pressure rounds like 9mm, 40S&W, 10mm and 45, the number of fixed barrel pistols is also small - the already mentiond HK P7, HK P9, Benelli B76 and a few others.

1911Tuner
August 25, 2007, 09:30 PM
P38 9mm come to mind

The P38's barrel isn't fixed. It's a locked breech/short recoil design. Push straight back on the muzzle, and it'll move rearward for a short distance.

usp9
August 25, 2007, 09:59 PM
In 9mm the P7 and HK VP70 come to mind.
in less than 9mm a few popular ones are;
Sig P230/232
CZ82/83
Walther PPK and all clones
Sphinx AT 380 (CZ82 clone)
Makarov

jsbethel
August 25, 2007, 10:04 PM
Steyr GB 9mm

GunTech
August 25, 2007, 10:22 PM
Good call on the Steyr GB. Add the American Knock-off POS Rojak.

schmeky
August 25, 2007, 10:55 PM
Benelli B-76. Very accurate too.

Jim Watson
August 25, 2007, 11:03 PM
Astra 400-600.

hksw
August 25, 2007, 11:50 PM
The overwhelming majority of handguns .380 ACP an lower (in terms of power), Mak, the above mentioned, Hi Point.

The Lone Haranguer
August 26, 2007, 12:10 AM
Every straight-blowback-operated pistol - which in turn is almost every .380 ACP and lesser cartridge - I know of has a fixed barrel. Most of them follow the Browning 1910 design with the barrel rigidly affixed to the frame and the recoil spring encircling the barrel.

1911Tuner
August 26, 2007, 09:51 PM
For the high pressure rounds like 9mm, 40S&W, 10mm and 45,

Pressure isn't the determining factor in whether or not to go with a straight blowback or locked breech. Recoil impulse...that old equal/opposite thing that
punches the bullet also punches the slide/breechblock is the thing. Whether it's straight blowback or locked breech/recoil operated...they all function with pretty much the same set of dynamics. Force forward equals force backward.

The .22 rimfires generally operate at higher average pressures than the standard .45 ACP...but .22 autos are straight blowback in operation. Even .22 magnum autoloaders are generally straight blowback.

9mm and .45 caliber High-Point pistols are straight blowback, but have massive slides and strong action/recoil springs to control the breech opening.
Others use some sort of means to retard or delay the event...such as the HK
P7. The .308 caliber HK 91/G3 employed a roller delayed blowback system in which two spring-loaded rollers engaged into keyway-shaped recesses in the receiver in order to retard the bolt until the bullet exited and pressure dropped to a safe level.

varoadking
August 26, 2007, 10:08 PM
For the high pressure rounds like 9mm, 40S&W, 10mm and 45, the number of fixed barrel pistols is also small - the already mentiond HK P7, HK P9, Benelli B76 and a few others.

The P9 doesn't have a fixed barrel...

Rembrandt
August 26, 2007, 10:33 PM
Desert Eagles

Father Knows Best
August 26, 2007, 11:03 PM
The P9 doesn't have a fixed barrel...
Um, I'm pretty sure it does. I know that the P9S does, at least, and the P9S is just a double action version of the P9. To my knowledge, both use a roller-locking delayed blowback action, just like the H&K rifles, and both have fixed barrels.

DiN_BLiX
August 28, 2007, 04:30 PM
fixed barrel as in the barrel doesnt come off? or in as it doesnt move during cycling?

MikePGS
August 28, 2007, 04:57 PM
Doesn't move during cycling.

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