Looking for a .357, 700 to spend


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sammy
August 26, 2007, 11:20 AM
I am looking for a .357 to use for home defense and to work on my accuracy. I have a large collection of semi-auto's and one snub nose Rossi as of now. I think a barrel between 4" and 6" is what I am looking for but I have no idea what make and model. Ideas?

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Jimmie
August 26, 2007, 11:22 AM
Ruger GP100 or SW 686. And a search.

PotatoJudge
August 26, 2007, 11:33 AM
Smith K or L frames. Ruger GP100 or Security Six. The Colt Python will likely be out of your price range, but the Lawman, Trooper, and King Cobra should be in your price range. I have seen shooter grade Pythons for $5-700 recently, so that may still be an option.

MCgunner
August 26, 2007, 12:07 PM
Sounds like you're crying for a GP100, but you have a lot of models to choose from with a 700 dollar budget. Personally, if I went Smith and Wesson, I'd look for an older 686. You can buy a new gun down here for what used Smiths go for, though, but there ain't much you CAN'T get for 700 bucks. I like Rugers so I'm sort of GP100 biased on this requirement. :D Never cared much for Colts, though the Python was a smooth shootin' gun. The cylinders turn the wrong way for a DA gun if nothing else. Colts never were a bargain and they just seem delicate compared to something like a 686 or especially the tough as nails GP100. Colts are out of production, so I doubt there's much factory support, either. I just consider them out of the question and move on, personally. Just never got bit by the Colt bug.

Deanimator
August 26, 2007, 02:12 PM
That'd about buy you TWO used S&W 686s.

Try Summit Gun Broker http://www.summitgunbroker.com

kreyzhorse@att.net
August 26, 2007, 02:14 PM
You can't go wrong with Ruger GP 100. Fine handgun. I'm a Smith guy so it would be remiss if I didn't mention the Smith and Wesson 686. I very fine handgun as well, slightly better than the Ruger but also a lot more expensive.

357-8-times
August 26, 2007, 02:25 PM
I like my Taurus 608 6.5" @ $500; way too big for CCW though...

glockman19
August 26, 2007, 02:30 PM
Ruger GP100 or SW 686

+1

I would not consider a Taurus myself. Ruger & S&W make a much better gun. Worth the extra $.

Mr.Revolverguy
August 26, 2007, 02:44 PM
Though I have a S&W686 and 3" GP100 my Taurus Tracker 6.5inch barrel is the most accurate 357 I have. It is close to being the most accurate weapon I have next to my S&W625. I see all the bashing of Taurus and for many years throughout my over 20 years of shooting I stayed away from them. I got the Taurus Tracker on such a deal I said what the heck and I am glad I did get it. The thing locks up like a bank vault and very accurate never had to adjust sites or anything. There is no doubt that people have issues with them and that Taurus have QA issues but if you can pick up one and look it over really good you will find it will usually be a weapon that will last you. My dad has Tracker as well and have shot nothing but 357 in it of all variety from factory to reloads and I want to say he has had his I know for 13 or more years now.

Neophyte1
August 26, 2007, 02:58 PM
Sir; GP100


Craig

ronto
August 26, 2007, 03:15 PM
My first choice would be a Ruger Security-Six in good condition, it's too bad they don't make them anymore. If you can't find a good "Six", then get the Ruger GP100.
In either case, you'll have money left over for ammo and you'll have a top quality 357 revolver that will outlast all of us.

Tom C.
August 26, 2007, 04:20 PM
IMO, the most cost effective .357 is the GP100. The 686 is also very good and picking one would be a matter of personal preference.
The best .357, IMO, is the 627-5PC. A little over your price limit, but a magnificent 5" SS N frame .357. Mine is supper accurate.

ewayte
August 26, 2007, 04:36 PM
+1 on what Jimmie said - Ruger GP100 or S&W 686.

Feanaro
August 26, 2007, 04:44 PM
Rugers are the 900 pound gorillas of the revolver market. Tough and reliable but they are also ugly, heavy, and tend to have bad breath. You don't want one of those. ;)

You, my friend, want a Smith and Wesson. I can tell. Boy do you have options. I like the 28 Highway Patrolman. http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=78887056
Maybe you prefer something a little lighter. Why not a 19?
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=78984293
Not tought enough? Okay, try a 586 on fer size.
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=79075867

No offense intended to Ruger fans. They probably can't help it anyways. :evil:

cowboy117
August 26, 2007, 04:46 PM
686-4 in 4".Best of breed IMHO.

Ala Dan
August 26, 2007, 04:50 PM
It doesn't get much better than a Smith & Wesson model 19, 66, or 686~!
None, of which will cost you $700~! Use the left over cash to buy you
some good, practice ammo~! ;):D

Zero Knives
August 26, 2007, 05:12 PM
GP100. Some of the extra bucks can go towards smoothing up the trigger if it's a bit crunchy like mine was. Added bonus is that my wife likes it in single-action...:D

hamourkiller
August 26, 2007, 06:13 PM
With that much you can get a S&W Mod 27 or 28 with pinned barrel and recessed cylinder. 4 or 6" as you desire. The Mod 28 is a plain jane work horse of a pistol, the Mod 27 has the best S&W bluing and the top strap is checkered. almost to pretty to shoot.

You could get two nice Mod. 16 also, one in 4 or 6 the other in 21/2 with rounded grips.

Goog luck and have fun buying and shooting

Mr.Revolverguy
August 26, 2007, 06:51 PM
Though it may have seemed like I was pushing for Taurus earlier I wasn't I love my 686-4 as well :) Just telling him to keep his options open and handle most if not all of them first to see how they feel to him. Not as fancy as what most of you have but still my babies:) By the way this has the firing pin on the hammer

http://www.digitalrage.org/pictures/SW686-4.jpg

MCgunner
August 26, 2007, 07:11 PM
Hey Mr.Revolverguy, why the apologies for the Taurus? My experience with 'em is similar to yours. I've owned Ruger and Smith and Wesson and my 4" M66 Taurus is the most accurate DA 4" revolver I've yet to own, amazingly accurate. And, my 3" 66 ain't far behind it. I gave under 200 bucks for each of 'em. In fact, I gave $180 for the 3" blued gun, some holster wear, but shoots great. I remember I gave $187 plus tax for a stainless Ruger Security Six in 1978 new. I bought that Taurus just about a year ago or a little over and the gun shoots .38 much more accurate than did that Security Six. I'll add to that the Taurus's trigger is great! Used guns so they might have been worked over, but they're smooth as my old M10. For 700 bucks, I could buy 3 Tauri like mine and have a hundred bucks left over for dies, molds, and powder/primers, though I've already got all that. :D

Mr.Revolverguy
August 26, 2007, 07:16 PM
NO WAY am I apologizing for the Taurus it is still my most accurate. I was just trying to say hey I am giving an unbiased post because though I have them all I love them all :)

I did not want anyone to think he is just here to go against the grain and promote Taurus not the case. The fact remains it is the most accurate I have or shall I say I shoot it the most accurately of all others. I have a pair of Six's as well. I want a speed six to finish out my collection :)
Just felt like posting pics today

http://www.digitalrage.org/pictures/Ruger_Club.jpg

mballai
August 26, 2007, 07:19 PM
GP 100 and save enough for lots of ammo

Glockafella
August 26, 2007, 07:23 PM
I agree the GP100 is a beautiful gun and stronger then any other...the best bang for your buck IMHO.

Use the extra money for ammo, holsters, and other fun stuff like grips or sights or a lobster dinner!

GP100 or SP101 if you want a snub

Magnum.35744
August 26, 2007, 08:10 PM
Smith And Wesson 627 all the way:D!!! I would go with the 5" barrel and with an eight round cylinder...you can't go wrong :cool:!!! Besides since it being built on the N-Frame that gun will chew and spit out any hot or light load you can think of ;). Take care, hope this helps.

-Tre

Feanaro
August 26, 2007, 08:18 PM
I'll add to that the Taurus's trigger is great! Used guns so they might have been worked over

From my experience, that must be the case or you got really lucky(or I've been unlucky). I've shot some and checked out others. They've all been reliable and accurate revolvers but I've never had a nice trigger on one. Middlin' decent but nothing like my S&W 10 or 28. Though even if your threw in the price of a trigger job, they'd still be quite a value. I jes' like to collect Smiths.

Peter M. Eick
August 26, 2007, 08:40 PM
Go used and buy yourself on of the older blued S&W N Frame 27 series. They are appreciating quickly so even if you don't shoot it much you can turn it in a few years for a good profit.

357-8-times
August 26, 2007, 08:43 PM
I considered the S&W 627 and 327 before buying the Taurus 608; could not find any remote way to justify paying double the price of the 608 for an ugly (327 TRR) gun. The trigger on my 608 is great IMO. Based only on dry firing, it has a far shorter/lighter/tighter pull than the Ruger Redhawk (.44) which has a similar sized frame and cylinder.

Greg8098
August 26, 2007, 09:01 PM
Ruger GP-100, plain and simple. I believe if there was a nuclear war, that the only things left would be evolved cockroaches packing ruger revolvers :D. Tough as nails and inexpensive. With the left over cash you can buy some great target and defensive ammo.

glassman
August 26, 2007, 09:41 PM
model 19-4 bought recently for $400.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w81/glassman_photos/SWMODEL19-4.jpg

686-5 bought last week for $450.
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w81/glassman_photos/696-5.jpg

Both of these guns are in great shape and still shoot extremely well.

ArchAngelCD
August 27, 2007, 02:31 AM
Not much left to say except I agree with the Ruger GP100 or a S&W M686. Both are outstanding revolvers. I have a 6 shot Model 686-2 with a 4" barrel.

Stainz
August 27, 2007, 08:48 AM
The big and massive full-shrouded cast SS Ruger 4" GP100, KGP-141, weighs 41 oz. The hammer forged and heat treated S&W 4" 6-shot 686 weighs a puny 40 oz. Believe me, you'll not wear out a S&W L-frame with normal SAAMI spec ammo. MSRP-wise, from their '07 catalogs, the Ruger is $635, the S&W runs $751. My pusher has them at $489 & $619.

I would suggest the 4" 66's replacement - the 620. This is a short-lugged L-frame - with the 686+'s frame, 7-shot cylinder, and grip. That 66-ish short lug really points well. It runs <$600 locally. I'd spend $66 on a new set of Ahrends stocks of your choice (Mine would be the square-conversion, finger grooved, cocobolo stocks.), inc s/h. Spend the rest on ammo. Nothing like a new S&W... I've bought new and used - I'll take new whenever I can. Besides, that 620 model is still fairly new.

Stainz

MCgunner
August 27, 2007, 10:07 AM
Ruger GP-100, plain and simple. I believe if there was a nuclear war, that the only things left would be evolved cockroaches packing ruger revolvers

The GP100 is an accurate, strong to the max gun. But, them must be some irradiated giant cock roaches cause if I had to pack around a GP100 for half a day, I'd be worn out. :D . Kinda why I like K frames, easy to tote. My SP101 is even easier to tote. That's the only downer to the L frame and GP, agree with Stainz, if totin' it is in the cards, not just shooting it, I might consider the 620 over the full size L frame/GP100. However, the GP100 is a beast, ultra strong frame design, can take anything you can stuff in it and laugh it off. It'll still be here with an L frame turns to dust, but either gun will last me five lifetimes no more than I shoot anymore, hundred rounds a month if I'm lucky and mostly .38 in my .357s. Hell, I've been so busy around here, I ain't got to the range in nearly 2 months. The heat don't help my motivation, either.

SWMAN
August 27, 2007, 10:40 AM
S&w 686+ 4"

Glockensig
August 27, 2007, 07:26 PM
Mr. Revolverguy,

Nice pics!!! Love those sixes!! I have two Taurus 669's 4" that are both great shooter's. As a guy at work says..... so many guns, soo little money....

billybob44
August 27, 2007, 08:05 PM
Sammy, you have alot of good info here! Let me add my 2cents worth. 15-20 years ago I traded a used Delco AM-FM cass. radio+ $50.00 for a hardly used S&W 681-4inch. The deal was so good that I had my favorite LEO run the #s for me to be sure it was not HOT. Even came with Pachmyers. This fixed sight weapon shoots well to the point of aim with most loads. Have traded off other .357's and kept this one! Like I said just my 2cents worth. Good Luck!!

sammy
August 27, 2007, 11:21 PM
Thank you all for the great info!!! I am shopping and will let you all know what I get when I figure out what I am going to buy. I am leaning to the Smith..

BikerRN
August 28, 2007, 05:02 AM
You won't go wrong with a Ruger or a S&W, IMHO.
I own a couple of Rugers and about quadruple that in S&W's, and a few Colt's too. I find the S&W better from a gunsmithing stand point, all of mine have been "worked on".
If it were me I would lean towards a 3"-4" 686+, but that's just me. I would choose the 3" because it has a "Round Butt" and if I found a "Round Butt" 4" I would snag it so fast my credit card would melt getting it out.
Keep us posted, I'd like to know what you decide on.

Biker

Lawnman380
August 28, 2007, 05:08 AM
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=79135000 I have this listed on Gunbroker, real nice S&W

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