CZ 82 owners. Hows that recoil spring?


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NC-Mike
August 26, 2007, 03:37 PM
I bought two of these pistols and they have functioned fine. I've read about and have felt what many say is robust recoil from these pistols. I fired a box MFS +P ammo, (which according to people who have chronoed it, is not really loaded to +P specs) and really felt the pistol was taking a beating and my hand was sore after 50 rounds.

I ordered a new recoil spring from Wolff and was shocked when I saw the spring they sent but this is the same spring that people on Makarov.com say is the one to use.

Look at the difference. Old on the bottom, new one on the top.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g312/Mike____Smith/CZ-82/recoilspring.jpg

I thought there was no way it would even fit, much less work but it went on and the effort it took to operate the slide was WAY more than with the old spring. Well, I just came back from the range and fired another box of the same ammo and the pistol behaved itself like a little sweet-heart. It was as if it were a different pistol. No more sharp recoil, not even a hint of soreness after 50 rounds and no feeling that the pistol was taking a pounding. No failures of any kind and I was able to find most of my brass with the new spring!

If you have one of these 82's you may want to consider changing out that spring too.

FYI, the old spring measured 3.75" and the new is a little more than 5.5"

I got the 19 lb spring, as recommended by makarov.com.

If you look on Woffs' site, the CZ-82 is not listed. These springs are listed under semi-auto-pistols/Makarovs.

http://www.gunsprings.com/SemiAuto/MakarovNF.html

Well worth the money and now my pistol is not trying to kill itself. :)

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M2 Carbine
August 26, 2007, 06:24 PM
I recommend that everyone that buys a used CZ 82 or Makarov replace the recoil spring.

I use 21 pound springs in my guns but 19 is fine.


I think that most complaints about the Makarov kicking hard is because the recoil spring is worn out.

Seminole
August 26, 2007, 08:52 PM
I took my CZ82 to the range a couple of weeks ago when I bought it and noticed then that I probably needed a new recoil spring. Thanks to this thread I just got ordered a 19# and a 21# spring--we'll see which one works better.

Thanks for the reminder, NC-Mike! :D

NC-Mike
August 27, 2007, 06:08 AM
Boy, it was hard to get the slide off with that new spring installed. The only thing I notice is the new one has one extra coil than the old. There was also a little difficulty in getting the slide back far enough to lock it by hand yet it functioned without failure during firing.

99.9 sure it's the right spring, probably needs a little break in to loosen up.

I've been wondering where we get other parts for this pistol. The CZ website doesn't have anything listed for the 82.

NC-Mike
August 27, 2007, 10:15 AM
No worries, this is the right spring.

The other one was so worn, I use to put the spring on the barrel and the slide would go right on, I've found that with the new spring, it's easier to twist the spring into the slide till it bottoms, then stick the barrel in the spring and assemble that way. It's already easier to do after a couple assemblies.

I'm going to go shoot a box of S&B and see how it works with that ammo.

jwr_747
August 27, 2007, 12:14 PM
usually,on the CZ,if your ejected brass is within a step or two of your firing position,your spring is ok.if your brass is in a different time zone,you need a new spring. a lot of the preceived hard recoil is just due to the CZ82 being a blowback design pistol. jwr

DrDremel
August 27, 2007, 01:03 PM
I sold mine a few months ago because it recoiled way out fo proportion to caliber. This was especially evident when using steel cased ammo. Apparently the cases do not form as well to the chamber walls and stick like brass does. Since I was only going to shoot steel cased ammo, I sold it. Now I might have to rethink. At the time I called Wolf and they did not have gunsprings.

NC-Mike
August 28, 2007, 08:09 AM
I ran 60 rounds of S&B through yesterday. Recoil is considerable more noticeable than with the so-called MFS +P ammo but still manageable.

No failures of any kind with this ammo either. The S&B seems to be a bit more accurate as well.

MisterPX
August 29, 2007, 02:11 AM
Will your CZ still cycle when you limp wrist it with teh new spring?

I'm getting at the old less recoil-less reliable thing.;)

NC-Mike
August 29, 2007, 08:38 AM
:what:

Don't know, cause I try not to limp-wrist it when I shoot. :)

wrangler5
August 31, 2007, 11:19 PM
New to the CZ-82 as of this morning, although I've been shooting Makarovs for a couple of years. Went to the range and put about 150 rounds through the CZ and it seemed to be a "sharper" recoiler than my Maks (which all have 21# recoil springs.) So I found this thread, and observed that the existing recoil spring is MUCH shorter than a fresh Mak spring - like the picture. But . . .

Does anybody else have difficulty installing the heavier (19# and 21#) makarov springs on a CZ-82? I simply cannot pull the slide back far enough to drop it down onto the rails if there is a 19 or 21 pound spring on the barrel. A "standard" 17# spring allows the slide to go back on, and is both longer and stiffer than what was on there. But the heavier springs feel like they just turn solid before the slide is far enough back. Is this just me?

I'll post my grip and trigger questions on other threads. Thanks for any help.

Seminole
September 1, 2007, 09:11 AM
Does anybody else have difficulty installing the heavier (19# and 21#) makarov springs on a CZ-82?

Yep. I struggled with it about 15 minutes a couple of nights ago. I finally got the 19# spring on, but it was tough. I haven't shot it yet, but will probably get to the range today or tomorrow if I'm lucky. Based on how hard it was to get the slide back on, I expect significantly softer recoil!

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