walther ppk vs beretta tomcat


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guitarsam
August 27, 2007, 12:27 AM
what are your opinions. need a small personal concealled lightweight. other models to consider

thanks

gs

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fletcher
August 27, 2007, 12:28 AM
Kel-tec P32 or P3AT would be my first choices for small/light/concealed.

Of the two you listed, I'd go with a PPK. My only 'experience' with the Tomcat was seeing another person in my CCW class use one, and it jammed constantly. It may not have been the gun's fault, but that's what I saw.

Fisherman_48768
August 27, 2007, 12:40 AM
My preference is with the Walther PPk. I carry one in 380 acp often, on the range it has been dependable and accurate. I understand that some of them mfg by S&W have feeding problems but if you get an Interarms or original German mfg there doesn't seem to be any problems.

lance22
August 27, 2007, 11:18 AM
I find it difficult to grab the slide serrations on the Beretta - for whatever reasons ... even though the PPK has stiffer (feeling) springs, at least it's easier to get a good grip to rack it.

rb8941
August 27, 2007, 11:51 AM
I've carried a Tomcat for a couple of years now. It's been completely reliable, never had a misfire or a problem of any kind. I recommend it.

romma
August 27, 2007, 12:59 PM
At one tie, I would have answered PPK. Actually PPK/S. We will see though after I get mine fixed,,, again! I have heard spotty reports on the Tomcats as well..

Mad Magyar
August 27, 2007, 04:25 PM
Fixed barrel vs a Tilt barrel...No contest.....PPK the winner in POA....& reliability....I've had them both....Presently the former....

CWL
August 27, 2007, 05:23 PM
For this caliber, consider the KelTec P32. Since you are trading bullet performance for concealment, might as well go with the thinnest and lightest.

I've always felt the Tomcat to be way too large and "chunky" for a .32. (Don't know anything about the PPK to comment)

Anna's Dad
August 27, 2007, 05:45 PM
I don't own the PPK, but I do own the Tomcat and the KelTec. The Tomcat was retired from carry duty as soon as I bought the KelTec! There's just no comparison in weight and thickness.

I do pocket carry, however, if you would consider a different carry method, you may be fine with the thicker, heavier gun.

makarovnik
August 28, 2007, 02:20 AM
One vote for the Tomcat. I like the tip-up barrel, they are solid and accurate enough. You can also carry cocked and locked if you're used to that mode of carry.

ArchAngelCD
August 28, 2007, 03:12 AM
I have never owned either of the pistols you listed so I can't give advice on them. The Walther PPK in both .32 Auto and .380 Auto weigh 21 oz. The Tomcat is lighter at 14.5 oz and it's a little smaller than the PPK. I own a Kel-Tec P-32 and it weighs only 6.6 oz.!! It is ultra light, holds 7+1 rounds and it disappears in your pocket. I highly recommend it. http://www.kel-tec.com/p32.html The added bonus is, you can buy a P-32 for ~$220 and spend the rest on ammo for practice. I carry Fiocchi 60 gr SJHP ammo in my .32 because it is super hot and produces as much energy as a .380 Auto. http://www.fiocchiusa.com/cat_centerfire.html

golden
August 28, 2007, 09:40 AM
My experience is with the TOMCAT and KEL-TEC. My KEL-TEC is unreliable to the point of being useless for defense. It will not fire a full magazine without a jam.

The TOMCAT is better, but stay away from AMERICAN AMMO brand in .32ACP. It is the only ammo I have tried that is unreliable in the TOMCAT. It is just too dirty.

VERY IMPORTANT. On these really small guns, the sights can be very hard to see. For me (I am in my fifties), a larger gun with good sights is much more accurate. I would suggest going to a range that rents pistols and try both guns side by side.

I think this is an apples to oranges debate. The PPK and PPK/S are compact pistols that can be carried as a regular defense pistol. The TOMCAT is really a back up or hideout gun. Different sizes for different purposes.

My choice is a .38 special revolver with 125gr. +P hollow points or a 9m.m. when circumstances permit.

Jim

Tomac
August 28, 2007, 09:44 AM
I briefly owned a stainless PPK/S, DA pull was terrible and it bit like crazy. Since then I've carried a number of Tomcats for deep CCW for years (my current Inox is the best of the breed, IMHO) and never experienced a malfunction of any kind. I prefer the Tomcat's DA/SA trigger & manual safety to DAO designs (YMMV) and in a DeSantis "Trickster" holster it slips into my back pocket like a 2nd wallet.
HTH...
Tomac
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camsdaddy
August 28, 2007, 12:36 PM
Ok have no expierence with the two in question. I do however agree with avoiding American Ammunition I have a Kel Tec and the only time it has ever jamed or not ejected was due to that ammo. Otherwise my P32 is 100% realible, accurate and always close by.

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