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gudel
August 28, 2007, 12:53 AM
In the next 4 months, I'd be interesting to buy 4 different pistols.
So far I have GLOCK 17, and HK P2000 LEM 9mm (I already have the 40).
I would like to get two additional on top of those two before 2008 hits.
I'm interested in high quality pistols only, so no 1911 or sig.

What do you have for me? Also, does the availability of lifetime warranty influence your purchase towards a pistol?

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defjon
August 28, 2007, 01:04 AM
Let me get this straight: you're interested in high quality, but you don't want a sig...or a 1911? Uh...from my own experiences, you can spell high quality S-I-G S-A-U-R. And a Colt series 70 or before...wow, just wow.

Your high quality glock costs about 60 bucks to manufacture. Maybe you'd like a nice high point...

Nil
August 28, 2007, 01:05 AM
I'm interested in high quality pistols only, so no 1911 or sig.

:confused:
:scrutiny:



:uhoh:



:eek:


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AZGlock13
August 28, 2007, 01:09 AM
Three 9mms to consider: The Walther P99 AS 9mm, the CZ 75 P-01 and the Beretta PX4 Storm 9mm.

Here's a Sig that might change your tune (very very niceeee)::D
http://www.sigarms.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=8&productid=198

IMTHDUKE
August 28, 2007, 01:09 AM
Are you for real? Or do you also do stand up comedy?:what:

2RCO
August 28, 2007, 01:12 AM
I read this and thought to myself--If you don't have anything nice to say.. But then I thought Glock High Quality-WHAT THE &*((? Glocks are OK but when I think high quality I sure don't think Glock. Several custom 1911's come to mind but not a GLOCK! Jeebus! If a glock is a high quality gun then a Yugo must be better than a Bentley!

PotatoJudge
August 28, 2007, 01:16 AM
How about a CZ75 and Hi-Power? Then buy a few cases of 9mm with what you have left.

Heavy Metal Hero
August 28, 2007, 01:24 AM
I'm interested in high quality pistols only, so no 1911 or sig.

...

What do you have for me?

Ocean front property in Nebraska.

No, seriously, I think a Llama is the gun for you.

Hunter0924
August 28, 2007, 01:29 AM
I believe your opinion of quality might be a shade skewed.

2RCO
August 28, 2007, 01:33 AM
+1 to Heavy Metal. May I also offer Lorcin as a possible suggestion. I've also got an American Bulldog if your into fine Antique weapons.

daysleeprx
August 28, 2007, 01:44 AM
I'm interested in high quality pistols only, so no 1911 or sig.

:rolleyes:

Ghost Walker
August 28, 2007, 01:58 AM
Please, don't drink and post at the same time - It confuses us! ;)

Guitargod1985
August 28, 2007, 03:20 AM
Did I read that correctly or am I missig something? I'm appalled. I really don't know what to tell you if you think that Sigs or 1911s are trash.

Oh, okay, I get it. He wants a plasma pistol! :-P

ugaarguy
August 28, 2007, 03:47 AM
I'm interested in high quality pistols only, so no 1911 or sig.
Did you perhaps mean to say "polymer pistols only" or "high capacity pistols only" instead of "high quality pistols only"?

That aside what do you want from the other two pistols? The first two are definetly high capacity, but also full size service pistols. Do you want two more high capacity pistol? Two compact carry pistols? One compact plus one other high capacity? Can they be metal, or do you want polymer only?

If you want compact poly then I'd look at the Kel-Tec P3AT & PF-9, any Kahr P series, or the new Walther PPS. If you like compact metal then a NAA Guardian; or a Rohrbaugh or Seecamp if you've got deep pockets. A Glock 26 which can feed from its bigger G19 and G17 brothers' magazines would be a good idea.

Segway, the Glock 19 is an excellent intermediate size pistol. A Browning Hi-Power also fits that role nicely. The CZ P01, Rami, and 75 Compact are great in this category as well. A Walther P99 or a 4" XD shouldn't be overlooked either in this size format.

If you wan't larger size then a longslide Glock (34 or 35), a CZ 75 or SP01, Beretta 92 (or 96), XD Tactical, or Ruger P Series are great buys encompassing a wide price range.

Obviously there's some size overlap in the last two categories, but hopefully that gives you some food for thought.

Wayne G.
August 28, 2007, 08:46 AM
I have 4 hit list

high quality pistols only, so no 1911 or sig

"No one is exempt from talking nonsense. The great misfortune is to do it solemnly."

"Wisdom can be learned. But it cannot be taught."

1. Lorcin
2. Raven
3. Jennings
4. Hi Point

jeff-10
August 28, 2007, 08:51 AM
What do you have for me? Also, does the availability of lifetime warranty influence your purchase towards a pistol?

No

Too bad you don't like Sigs, they may be one of the highest quality 9mms out there.

Look into the Browning High Power or Beretta 92.

igpoobah
August 28, 2007, 10:12 AM
Looks like some Glock haters can dish it out but can't take it! :neener::D

RTFM
August 28, 2007, 10:25 AM
Maybe you'd like a nice high point...

BWAAA HAAAA HAAAA

Hey gudel You might want to clarify your self, before your tared and feathered.
Just a thought, mate.


high quality pistols only, so no 1911 or sig



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zeroskillz
August 28, 2007, 01:31 PM
Methinks he's just fishing for the chaos.
:barf:

Hoppy590
August 28, 2007, 01:38 PM
honestly i think you need to get the Jennings. or maybe a Kahr P-9 they are so good the Rapid Tactical Force at one of America’s largest indoor retail shopping areas uses them

Lonestar49
August 28, 2007, 02:05 PM
...

Think we have a great fisherman among us, as he reeled in a lot of catches with that unfounded statement..



LS

glockman19
August 28, 2007, 02:07 PM
I believe your opinion of quality might be a shade skewed.http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/images/smilies/rofl.gif
Please, don't drink and post at the same time - It confuses us!http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/images/smilies/puke.gif
high quality pistols only, so no 1911 or sig. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/images/smilies/90.gif
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/images/smilies/iagree.gif

Sounds like a Taurus would be right for you. :D

tydephan
August 28, 2007, 02:35 PM
All your base are belong to us.

Also, does the availability of lifetime warranty influence your purchase towards a pistol?

You're dang right it does. So does customer service.

Picknlittle
August 28, 2007, 02:38 PM
I'm interested in high quality pistols only, so no 1911 or sig.

That's easy! HiPoint, Lorcin, and AMT. That oughta hitch yer wagon.

Snake Eyes
August 28, 2007, 02:40 PM
You know, I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and also to learn something everytime I can. My first reaction to this thread was 'don't feed the troll', but Gudel has been around THR for 4+ years and has 3 times as many posts as me. So I decided to do a little research and see if I could learn something from him.

I learned that Gudel has LOTS of different guns, not just Glocks and HKs, and that he had a problem with a Sig he owned that probably soured him on them. I also learned in this thread (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=285145&highlight=Cali) that he lives in California and in this thread (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=298438) I learned that he visited Dallas and intended to purchase 33 round Glock mags.

So, now I know that Gudel has lots of gun experience with a wide range of manufacturers and his opinions are formed from a mindset that also finds it acceptable to leave an internet trail about felonies he intends to commit.

Noxx
August 28, 2007, 02:52 PM
Well I'M late to this thread, but I can hardly forgo the obligatory perplexed grimace.



there.

Cel
August 28, 2007, 03:30 PM
they are so good the Rapid Tactical Force at one of America’s largest indoor retail shopping areas uses them

Hahaha! I get it. And a legend was born or rather a stereotype. :D

Noxx
August 28, 2007, 04:00 PM
Alright I can no longer resist...

This may not be productive, but c'mon, who didn't get a giggle out of...

you can spell high quality S-I-G S-A-U-R.

I'd like to buy a vowel.

RTFM
August 28, 2007, 04:05 PM
you can spell high quality S-I-G S-A-U-R.

I'd like to buy a vowel.



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Black Majik
August 28, 2007, 04:13 PM
Guys,

It should be no secret that Gudel has strong dislikes for SIGs (for a faulty mag release) and 1911s by now, as well as being a huge HK fan by now. He's strongly stated that long ago. All of our opinions may differ from his(Heck I'm a huge 1911 and SIG fan), but opinions are usually formed from past experiences (and hopefully not from what we read on the internet :D ).

I've disagreed with many of his posts since the beginnings of time (sometimes wondered if he OD'ed on the HK kool-aid), but he has been a contributing member for a long time. We may not all share into his bias, but we can at least contribute per his requirements.




you can spell high quality S-I-G S-A-U-R.

I'd like to buy a vowel.

LOL http://2aforum.com/forums/images/graemlins/default/laught16.gif

defjon
August 28, 2007, 05:02 PM
Come one guyse, it wase late! Lete me reclaime mye honore!

PS: I see no other way to do so...then it is fisticuffs, is it? HAVE AT YOU!

Hoppy590
August 28, 2007, 05:10 PM
hey atleast he has a sense of humor about this

1BLINDREF
August 28, 2007, 05:26 PM
This has got to be the funniest thread I've ever seen
Quote:
you can spell high quality S-I-G S-A-U-R.


Quote:
I'd like to buy a vowel.







LOL

Black Majik
August 28, 2007, 06:29 PM
This has got to be the funniest thread I've ever seen

Dunno man, this one is pretty hard to beat. I about died laughing reading that thread

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=267675

http://www.forumspile.com/Thread-Crap-Graph.jpg

LOL http://2aforum.com/forums/images/graemlins/default/laught16.gif

Chem Geek
August 28, 2007, 07:19 PM
I'm interested in high quality pistols only, so no 1911 or sig.

Once explained this was understandable.

graffer
August 28, 2007, 09:40 PM
He has far more experience than some of you may think. He raised many questions on the 1911. As I recall he did not find satisfaction in the Colt brand. He tried one of the firest Sig GSR 1911 pistols and got a hold of a really bad one. He was not alone in the GSR debacle. I would think this soured him on the Sig Sauer name.

It is not often that I would seek to defend a poster, but in this case I just can't hold my peace.

It appears he is a gentleman enough not to reply to some of these rather ascerbic comments which I read. Personally, I ever made a post and received these types of comments, I would never post here again.

In fact, this is my last post here.

ecureed
August 28, 2007, 10:57 PM
In fact, this is my last post here.

wow, I don't believe I've seen a thread in the autoloaders section cause this much consternation and handwringing

10-Ring
August 29, 2007, 01:26 AM
Okay -- no Sigs & no 1911s -- personallly, I'd go some flavor HK -- USPc 45, P2000 or P2000 sk.

Chem Geek
August 29, 2007, 01:57 AM
So in the hope of being actually helpful, I'd say for the next two, get a HK P7M8 (don't know your budget) and a Browning Hi-Power. I'd love to get either of those.

finalcut
August 29, 2007, 02:21 AM
Wow - lots of sarcastic posts.... Even for my taste & I have been known to be a bit sarcastic my self.

First off - I don't blame him for putting 1911s on his list of guns he does not like.
I love them and own a Colt made in 1943 that is great, but they can be very unreliable. I bought a 2,500 Wilson that jamed about every 30 rounds and that is not uncommon. Some 1911s are amazing out of the box - others are terrible - and for what they can cost the level of reliability should be much higher - not such a mixed bag. If he had a Sig 1911 I must say I've heard lots of negative things about them as well.

All that aside - to answer the question that he posed:
HK USPc
XD Compact
XD Subcompact
S&W Model 457 ( would have to be used )

All of these pistols I have owned or seen in action. They shoot straight & are reliable.

Lonestar49
August 29, 2007, 03:13 AM
Quote: I'm interested in high quality pistols only, so no 1911 or sig.
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Not knowing the OP, but now understanding his comment, and the fact, as supported by some other posters statements about him, and his bad luck with Sig's 1911, that the OP got a Sig 1911 Lemon, which I believe, as I have read, and heard, bad stories about them, and now understand his reasoning for the above quote.

I apologize for my statement on page 1, as he was right, and I was wrong, in that, I didn't put the "no 1911 or sig" together.

I wish him well in his search for his next 4 quality gun purchases..


LS

finalcut
August 29, 2007, 03:32 AM
Lonestar49
You're a much better man than I
Very stand-up post.

jeepmor
August 29, 2007, 06:08 AM
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CK
August 29, 2007, 07:00 AM
Sphinx 3000
http://www.sphinx-systems.ch/

I really want this gun.

Swiss made. Very high quality.

ArfinGreebly
August 29, 2007, 03:46 PM
Guys,

Surprisingly poor signal/noise ratio in this thread.

I don't think it's beyond redemption, but I would, in light of Snake Eyes' post #25, recommend that some of you go back and clean up your posts.

Or, I can go through the thread myself and start doing some housecleaning.

The OP should probably add a little explanatory note to his post, clarifying that his own experiences have put him off certain brands and/or types.

Ridicule is pretty low road, guys.

I can agree that "can I buy a vowel" was pretty funny, but it's still not real signal.

So, shall we clean it up and try to make some actual recommendations?

Mal H
August 29, 2007, 06:20 PM
Well, a couple of hours have past and no one seems to want to take ArfinGreebly up on his generous offer of allowing you to clean up your mess - with one exception. (Chem Geek, thank you.)

I'm closing this one just to stop the bleeding from the long fall off the high road for almost every single poster in this thread.

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