CCW while having to bend down quite a bit


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synapse
August 28, 2007, 05:25 PM
For those of you who must bend down quite a bit on the job, or just for those of you with a toddler that requires constant 'redirection' in the mall - - how do you keep from having the handle/grip of your CCW poke through your shirt when bending straight down?

I have had more luck here with a 5-shot Ruger Sp101 than anything else I have tried (ie - CZ P01, Ruger P97, and even a makarov).

Even with a loose t-Shirt and/or a polo shirt over a loose t-shirt, it still creates a tell-tale handle impression.

So is it possible to carry, say, the CZ while engaged in an activity that requires deep hip movements? Think picking up (and sometimes struggling with) a toddler every 100 paces in a crowded mall.

Also let me add that I have tried numerous holsters (Don Hume) and still have not found the ideal setup.

Thank you
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dstorm1911
August 28, 2007, 05:34 PM
if your lifstyle requires such movement constantly then ya are only going to have a couple options a bag such as fanny pack etc.. which fits in with toddler maintanence or go with a KelTec P3AT with belt clip that can be tucked completally below belt line without printing etc... a holster will add excess bulk and your right back to original problem.......

ArchAngelCD
August 28, 2007, 05:37 PM
Two words: Ankle Holster...

jfh
August 28, 2007, 05:41 PM
another thing to consider is getting "long" or "extra-long" shirts. A few of these go a long way towards solving a viewing problem, if not necessarily printing issues.

My own personal dress style includes wearing a casual vest, and those in long / extra long also go a long way for solutions, particularly the "photographer" types. Finally, if you wear sports coats, again the long sizes help immensely.

Jim H.

Lonestar49
August 28, 2007, 05:55 PM
Quote: For those of you who must bend down quite a bit on the job, or just for those of you with a toddler that requires constant 'redirection' in the mall - - how do you keep from having the handle/grip of your CCW poke through your shirt when bending straight down?
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Depending on what shooting hand you use, front carry, slant-cant / or \ in a cross draw configuration, 1 0-clock, or 11 0-clock, position works well for bending, etc., without painting, along with, you see what your gun sees.. forward.


Good luck


LS

PS.. what size (length) gun do you want to carry? And then I can recommend a very inexpensive, IWB clip-on holster you can buy for 12 bucks to try out, and if you like it, keep it, use it, or buy some other, more expensive make holster. Just need to know the size, type, gun we're talking about.

Octothorpe
August 28, 2007, 06:30 PM
To solve this problem I simply carry at around 1:00.

Rustynuts
August 28, 2007, 07:20 PM
Doesn't that poke you in the nads when you sit?

Lonestar49
August 28, 2007, 07:33 PM
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I suppose if the gun is holstered straight down, or with just a slight cant.

Using a cross draw cant, looking at your clock, draw a line from 8 to 2, to see what I mean, as the gun then rides above the jewels.. lol


LS

Car Knocker
August 28, 2007, 07:39 PM
Pocket carry may be an option, also.

vow
August 28, 2007, 09:37 PM
GLOCK 26, pocket holster, left front, shirt out. Works for me.

vow
August 28, 2007, 09:44 PM
You may need a larger shirt.

W.E.G.
August 28, 2007, 10:16 PM
man purse

Glockman17366
August 28, 2007, 10:29 PM
I'll second the pocket carry. to me, that's as concealable as one can get.

However, even when I carry OWB (Glock 17 or 19) with a shirt drapped over it...I'm not too concerned about printing when I squat. The big thing is to make sure the shirt is long enough that it doesn't ride up and expose the gun. You also want to ensure the shirt is still covering the gun when you stand.
Of course, this is in PA where there are tens of thousands of people with LTCF.

TX1911fan
August 29, 2007, 10:55 AM
Bend at the knees, it's better for your back anyway.

buzzard80
August 29, 2007, 01:04 PM
ditto what TX1911fan said. With my two toddlers, I make a point to keep my back straight, and I take a knee if I need to stay down at thier level for a moment. That in combination with appropriately sized shirts for an IWB holster at 3:30 and I don't have any problems (that's with a 2075 Rami).

Majic
August 29, 2007, 03:09 PM
Squat instead of bending over.

sacp81170a
August 29, 2007, 03:18 PM
Sonkyo position. A strong sonkyo position is the mark of a samurai! ;)

WC145
August 29, 2007, 09:10 PM
Get one of those little harnesses that look like a kiddie/dog leash. Then you can just tug 'em back to you when they try to get away.

WC145
August 29, 2007, 09:17 PM
:o:banghead::(!

Zen21Tao
August 29, 2007, 09:18 PM
I pocket carry with a Kahr PM40 when I know I'll be doing a lot of bending, twisting or other movement that exacerbates printing. If you go the Kahr route, it also small enough and thin enough that a good IWB holster will conceal it well in those those types of circumstances.

BikerRN
September 2, 2007, 12:56 AM
For "reining in the toddler" you have a couple of options, IMO.

First being to wear a larger cover garmet, but this isn't always practical. Second is to wear a smaller gun. Another idea is to carry off body, man purse, fag bag, whatever you call them. The other is to change carry positions. This may also make it necessary to carry a different firearm too.

Pocket Carry has been suggested, and what I do with my BUG on a daily basis. The other really viable option was to carry a smaller gun in front of the hip bone. For a right handed person this would be at 1300 Hours and is called the "Appendix" position.

Last, but certainly not least, bend at the knees not the hips.

Biker

Monkeybear
September 2, 2007, 01:36 AM
Bend at the knees, its better for your back.

I have a friend at work that carries a baby Glock at 12 o'clock. The cant on the thing is a bit strange, basically both the grip and barrel point down. He swears its comfortable in any position. I don't know where he got the holster though.

gezzer
September 2, 2007, 01:39 AM
Try a stroller

Kevin108
September 2, 2007, 06:47 AM
Smart Carry?

jad0110
September 2, 2007, 09:29 AM
Bend at the knees, its better for your back.

Amen to that! Bending at the knees is the only way I can pick up my big boy, otherwise I feel an all too familiar strain in my lower back. I was picking up a printer sitting on the floor a couple of years ago and got a muscle spasm in my lower back. I collapsed to the floor like a ton of bricks and laid there in pain for about an hour. I vividly remember what that felt like; I don't care to do it again.

synapse,

Pocket carry is a wonderful thing. S&W 642 in a Robert Mika round-cut pocket holster. Don't leave home without it :):


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http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/jad0110/Smith%20and%20Wesson%20Model%20642%2038%20Special/SW642black2.jpg

Well-Armed Lamb
September 3, 2007, 11:17 PM
Deep concealment is an option. I have to say that I've been very impressed with the comfort and range of motion offered by my J-frame Smith & Wesson in a medium Thunderwear holster, with a couple of speed strip reloads in the second pouch. I've been moving a lot of stuff into storage recently, and with all the bending involved I decided to not wear my inside-the-waistband-carry Glock 30, which I usually keep at about four o'clock. The J-frame has been a terrific pinch-hitter; I honestly forget it's there.

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