Consolidating the gun collection.


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DrDremel
July 6, 2003, 10:19 AM
I have been thinking lately about trimming down the gun collection. Two safes as big as my refrigerator and they are getting tight. I have some guns that I shoot a lot, and others that I have never fired, and others that haven't been to the range in years. Should I sell them and just shoot more with the ones I use a lot. I don;t shoot any 9mm semi-auto carbines since I got a subgun, I don;t shoot the 7mm mausers cause I don't have much brass and the guns are too nice to take to the range all the time. I shoot the FAL, Daewoos, Subgun, 1919a4 Browning, AKs, Rem 700, .22s and handguns a lot, the mausers, lever guns, and others just don't get used. I am thinking that getting rid of a few calibers would be good as well. I have 17 calibers to feed and it seems like I am always stocking up on whatever caliber is on sale or coming into the country. I can get the count down to about 30 guns. It would mean more shooting time, less cleaning of all the guns, and less time reloading. Does anybody else feel this way sometimes?

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chadintex
July 6, 2003, 10:31 AM
I hear you. I've dropped to 9mm, 7.62X39, .357, 12 guage, and .308. I don't count the .22's, because I have enough to last until my kids are old. My only oddball is a single .25 that I inherited from my grandfather and hardly ever shoot anyway. I've been trying to thin the herd for a while, and it's hard to do when I keep seeing guns I've never had.

Although, I may be adding the .223 soon, If/when the AW ban dies.

Chipperman
July 6, 2003, 11:03 AM
I have somewhere around 30, and have no intention of ever selling any of them.

Mark Tyson
July 6, 2003, 11:14 AM
I have more than I can shoot too, but I do not see myself selling them. I might sell one if I had a friend who wanted one who I knew would put it to better use than I.

shermacman
July 6, 2003, 11:16 AM
I know the feeling. But the actual number of guns doesn't bother me as much as having too many different ammo calibers. I have several guns in .308, .223, .22, .45, .40 and 12 gauge. I can't part with them. Of course there is the M1 in .30/06 which I can't get rid of...and my great-grandfather's black powder .50 that ain't leaving. Oh well. Could be worse!

Hkmp5sd
July 6, 2003, 11:50 AM
Does anybody else feel this way sometimes?

Nope. Never sold one of my guns and hopefully, never will. 99% of the people I know that get rid of guns, later regret doing it.

John Ross
July 6, 2003, 01:14 PM
"Does anybody else feel this way sometimes?"

Yes. Over the years I have picked up nice guns that people needed to sell because of divorce, disability, etc.

Recently I realized I had guns I hadn't fired for over a decade--I had enjoyed them once but now they were just taking up space. I've been thinning the collection, and keeping my favorites.

Some tastes and preferences change, and some don't. My first love was accurate long-range magnum revolvers. The new S&W 500 makes me feel 14 again. I'm tooling up to load and shoot .500 in quantity. Some AR-15s and revolvers I don't shoot are being sold to pay for this.

One great thing about guns: You can enjoy them for years and when you want somthing else, you get your money back and still get to keep the memories.

JR

JDSlack
July 6, 2003, 02:19 PM
I'm with HK5, I have sold guns in the past and regreted it every time (well, except for one Ruger). Never sell another, unless my finances really go down the tubes, but if that happens my guns will probably be the least of my worries, and no one else will have the $$ to buy 'em. If nothing else, they will be here for my sons when I'm worm food.

DWS1117
July 6, 2003, 04:27 PM
I have owned a grand total of six guns in my short gun owning life (bought my first only 3 years ago). Half of those have been sold. I regret getting rid of any of them. Now, at the time it was either keep the guns and go hungry for the week or sell them and be able to eat. With a pregnant wife at the time, food won. So althought it was a good cause, it is something that I wish I could have avoided.

El Tejon
July 6, 2003, 04:44 PM
At the risk of deserved jabs from Tamara, Dr., I have been doing the same thing for about a year. When I was young and foolish, I wanted one of everything and darn near achieved it.

Now that I am older and foolish, I asked myself what do I use my guns for? I am not a recreational shooter, target shooter, hunter, or plinker. I have guns in order to fight.

Toward that end, I narrowed it to several categories, primary pistol, bug, shotgun, carbine, and rifle. I then purchased several copies of the same weapon. Keeps logistics and number of gunkuens down. They are just tools and less is more.

I always keep in mind the "no favorite weapon" advice and attempt train on other firearms as well. E.g. I've attended a revolver class but do not carry one.

BKP99
July 6, 2003, 05:32 PM
I do know how you feel.
It has taken me quite a few years and quite a few purchases to finally come upon a gun that fits me well and shoots well too. The process left a lot of 'not ideal' guns which I didn't shoot as well and are a lot harder to clean than my favorite P99. They just took up safe space and I've sold a few off already. I also had a Colt HBAR sitting collecting dust and I sold that too.

I am limiting myself to the 'big 6 calibers' .22, 9mm, .45ACP, .223, .308, and 12 G

Otis makes a Law enforcement kit that cleans all the above calibers!!!

I also live in Canada so excess guns means excess registrations and responsibilities re. safe storage etc,etc.

I don't regret selling my old guns since I never shot them as well as the ones I do now.

My philosophy: find what works, pick up a few 'spares' and lots of mags.

MountainPeak
July 6, 2003, 05:38 PM
I've been collecting and shooting guns for 39 years. I've sold exactly 3 guns in my entire life. I regret letting them go. Some day I might rent a few tables at a show and thin the collection, but I don't believe it will be soon. I'm afraid a buyer might give me my price and then I'd have to fight him for my gun!:D

4v50 Gary
July 6, 2003, 05:49 PM
First consider another safe.

However, if you're getting up there in years, consider how you want to dispose of your collection. Any relatives worthy of receiving some? Any friends (me! me! me!)? Any museum? Is it worthwhile to leave it to your spouse (if any) to sell via a reputable dealer? If no to all of the above for any gun in particularp, then go ahead and sell it now and use the money for something else (house insurance, car insurance, more bullets, whatever).

Just my suggestion FWIW.

DrDremel
July 6, 2003, 09:25 PM
I have owned hundreds of firearms, but I have just gotten to the point that I know I will never them all. I know what works, what I like, what I dislike, and what i never end up shooting. I don't need more safes, I need less calibers. Less diversity at the range and more practice with a core collection.

digex
July 6, 2003, 10:15 PM
I say sell them. I'm not a collector myself. I buy guns with one purpose: to shoot things. I rarely go to a range. I spend my spare time in a pasture shooting at varmints. I hunt during season and the rest of the year I shoot prairie dogs, coyotes and maybe a rabbit or 2 here and there. That's not to say that I only have one gun, I go out with one of my 3 varminters and just have fun. I'm always trading and selling to get something else. Only one of my guns would never be for sale, but the rest are here on borrowed time :)
Have fun!
Tommy

Majic
July 6, 2003, 10:43 PM
I have a core favorite section in my collection that will always stay with me. Others that were bought or traded for that don't make the core section goes back on the market to fund the next gun wanted. Over the years that has allowed me to get better quality guns that I may not have been able to afford at that time. Once I did regret selling a particular handgun, but that was to a friend who was to resell it back to me (instead it was sold for a tidy profit), but that taught me a lil lesson. :banghead:

Smoke
July 7, 2003, 10:42 AM
I have sold guns and regretted it; I have sold guns and never looked back.

The difference is whether I liked the gun or not. If you look at any one gun in the safe and ask yourself "Do I like this gun?" Not "Do I shoot it?"

IF you don't like it and don't shoot it, get rid of it and buy yourself one you do like and will shoot, or use the money to feed the others left in the safe.

El Tejon makes a lot of sense. Not just for self defense shooters but for gamers as well. The better you know your weapon the better you will perform. If you shoot lots of platforms you are more likely to hesitate.

I only shoot 1911 style handguns. I only train defensively with 870 shotguns (Although I LOVE all shotguns).

Take your time in thinning your collection. Make certain of your choices and don't look back.

Tamara
July 7, 2003, 12:00 PM
Not so much that, as I've thought about "focusing".

I know I like 1911's and S&W wheelguns, so what's up with all these Rugers and SIGs and Berettas and such that I've accumulated? I know that I like old milsurp rifles, so how have I wound up with more FBPP's than you can shake a stick at?

I really could be happy with my HK91 and a shorty AR, and plow the money from all the others into more milsurps. Turn the Rugers into S&W's and the SIGs and Berettas and such into 1911's. Heck, the Beretta AR70 by itself could satisfy my jones for a pre-ban shorty AR and a Delta Elite.

This is what happens when one has a sudden attack of fiscal responsibility, I guess... ;)

Sunray
July 7, 2003, 03:41 PM
Guy phones the store one day in a big panic.
"I have to sell all my guns." he says.
"What for?" says me.
"The wife says its her or the guns."
"Can't sell her. It's illegal. Maybe in the Middle East." I said.
Anyway, the guy shows up with a bunch of guns he had bought from us, including the documented very last C1A1 ever made.
DR, you seem to be confused about the difference between collecting and shooting. Different things altogether. And you can do both. What does it matter if you don't regularly shoot one fiream or another? Who cares? They're your big kid toys. What'll your kids think of you selling off their inheritance? Keep 'em for the sake of the children. (See there is away of using that line in a positive light.)

firestar
July 7, 2003, 03:46 PM
I would say, if you have to ask if you sell your guns, that you probably shouldn't. Wait until you KNOW what you want to do. Anytime I have done something like that without have a clear idea in my head why I was doing it, I regreted it. If you have a gun that you want to get rid of, sell or trade it but don't sell guns that you like.

Hkmp5sd
July 7, 2003, 06:44 PM
This is what happens when one has a sudden attack of fiscal responsibility, I guess...

With willpower and proper gun lust, it is possible to overcome these attacks.

Tamara
July 7, 2003, 11:41 PM
It ain't so much that, as that, well, I've had my fun with the Beretta. I'd probably happily trade it for another equally useless longarm. Two possibilities at this past weekend's show were a .308 Valmet sporting a Galil folding stock and a semiauto 1919A6; the owner of the former wanted cash, and my Beretta didn't sell (slow show), and the latter didn't have the boot to make up the difference between his $1,500 gun and my $2,000 gun, and I didn't feel like taking a bath.




Side Note: What the "I've owned twelve guns and never sold a one of 'em" crowd doesn't get about the "I've owned a few hunnert guns" crowd is that sometimes you buy one just to play with; just to say "Yeah, I've had one of those" and then, after a few months and a few hundred rounds, you turn it into something else you want to toy with. ;) An example: I was offered a deal a few months back on three S&W 624's (3", 4", and 6"), all LNIB. I knew I wasn't going to keep all three, but I wasn't sure which one I wanted, and the prices were better if I bought all three together. I knew I could figure out which one I wanted to keep, and let the other two go as trading fodder for stuff I didn't have. I wound up keeping the 3" gun, and the 4" and 6" guns wound up turning into a 2" 64-4, a 442, and some cash. Everybody's happy. ;)

10-Ring
July 8, 2003, 12:37 AM
In this age, consider it more a re-structuring ;) If by "re-structuring" you end up w/ more guns you will use or more $$ to buy ammo or range time to shoot the guns you use, why not?

MountainPeak
July 8, 2003, 10:51 AM
About Tamara's Side note: There are also people that own several "hunnerts" and still don't sell. Then you can say you DO own one. I seem to go in cycles. I may shoot revolvers for a while, then semi-autos, then rifles. I might have one of my safes open, see a firearm I haven't used for some time and remember I liked it. I cycle it to the front of the safe for a time. I have a good friend that has a large collection too. He is constantly buying, selling or trading. I seem to just buy.:D I have given away quite a few firearms over the years, but have sold exactly 3. I give firearms as presents to friends and family members. My 9 year old grand daughter has 9 guns, 8 of them came out of my collection. If she keeps active in shooting I'll probably give most of mine to her. Maybe she will want to sell some. I don't have any desire to. To each his/her own!

Tamara
July 8, 2003, 11:04 AM
To me, horse-trading is half the fun, and my funds aren't exactly unlimited.

If I want some other $2,000 preban to tinker with, I'll need to sell one of the ones that's sitting around gathering cobwebs. Simple economic fact. When I mention it, there'll be two Stock Internet Gun Forum Responses: A)"Don't ever sell guns!" and B)"Every time I've sold a gun, I've regretted it!" The answers to both are: A)"I sold 'em for a living for so many years that I probably just don't have the same kind of attachment to 'em that you do." and B)"I've sold so many that I can't even remember what they all were. If I really regret one out of twenty, it's a miracle."

As far as giving guns away, I rarely do that, but I've been frequently known to make some pretty favorable trades to friends, as well as those "Well, you got a hunnerd bucks?" kind of sales. :cool:

El Tejon
July 8, 2003, 11:26 AM
Tamara, I'm sorry to see you're leaving the hobby.:neener:

Tamara
July 8, 2003, 11:38 AM
No, El T, I'm selling useless guns to buy equally (or even more) useless guns. ;)

F'rinstance, I can afford a fairly decent Smith collection or a fairly decent Ruger collection, but not both.

I'll still leave the tactical weaponry Iwannacoolgun stuff to you; fear not. ;)

BigG
July 8, 2003, 11:55 AM
I can see where you are coming from. It's your money so you decide. I shot for many years and invested in the best I could afford. Based on this fairly wide experience, once I found out what I really liked, I sold the ones I didn't want. Got most of my money back and bought more of what I liked. I do believe that too many calibers in one collection is a pain. Especially if you get military rifles. Why do you need a 7mm/8mm/303/308/30-06/7.5/7.62X54/7.65all virtually interchangeable and a logistics nightmare (to me).

MountainPeak
July 8, 2003, 12:02 PM
BigG, you are right, I don't NEED 99% of my collection. I do want them though.:)

BigG
July 8, 2003, 12:36 PM
Gotcha, Mountainpeak. NEED was a poor choice of words, WANT is the operative word. :D I didn't want twenty similar powered calibers in MY set. YMMV

Ala Dan
July 8, 2003, 02:08 PM
Well, partner I've been there and done that on
several occassions. Grant it, its not a fun thing
to do; but sometimes you have to do what it
takes to accomplish a particular mission.

Finally, I narrowed my choices down to guns
that I shoot on a regular basis; or guns from
my collection that have great folklore or some
personal memory that I keep stored inside.:D
The only handgun from my current inventory
that I don't shoot is my late fathers 1971
Smith & Wesson 2" pinned barrel model 30,
in .32 S&W Long. Its more of a family heirloom
than anything else!:uhoh:

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

Mannlicher
July 8, 2003, 08:21 PM
I see no reason to sell anything. I just keep buying more. The logistics don't bother me one bit.

Tamara
July 9, 2003, 12:41 AM
I see no reason to sell anything. I just keep buying more. The logistics don't bother me one bit.

Must be nice; wish I had unlimited funds, too! :)

Since I don't, when I see some new $2k gun I just can't live without, some $2k gun I have now has to go. Luckily, I'm not too all-fire attached to 'em. Easy come, easy go... :D

(PS: If by "logistics" you mean keeping bolt action milsurps in 7.7 Jap, 7.5 Swiss, 7.62x54R, 8mm Mauser, .30-'06, .30-40 Krag and 7.62x51 NATO fed, then that doesn't bother me in the slightest, either. Some of those only eat a couple of boxes a year, anyways. If by "logistics" you mean shaking loose the gelt to spring for every pre-ban FBPP that catches my eye every three months, well, then, that's a different matter; if I want the Valmet, the Beretta has to be sold. Que sera, sera. ;) )

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