which pistol in 357 sig would you recomend?


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agent00
August 31, 2007, 06:22 AM
Hi, its me again and I am intersting in buying a new handgun. This time I want an 357 sig pistol. I will use the gun only for fun shooting, for defence I would use my g20. in an case of emergency an 10 mm slug would be more effectiv than an 357. bullet. But the whole sd thing is more theortical because here in my country the crime rate is not so high.

But which 357 sig pistol would you recommend and what do you think about the 357 sig catridge in generall?

I would be pleased hearing some tipps.

thanks, greetings from austria.

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GaryP
August 31, 2007, 06:40 AM
I chose the HK USPC .357 Sig. Great pistol and very effective caliber.

:evil:

critter
August 31, 2007, 07:33 AM
SIG 229 (with both the .40 cal and the .357 SIG barrels)-easy swap and you have either caliber. Great gun too!

klover
August 31, 2007, 07:41 AM
Look at Sigs before you get something

tackleberry45
August 31, 2007, 08:05 AM
Definitely SIG 229.
Glock 33 - great for compact carry.

trueblue1776
August 31, 2007, 08:14 AM
Sig Sauer P229, one of the most solid autos ever built. Can handle my monster loads with the 19 lb spring. ( Die beste 0,357 Sig Pistole kann Geld kaufen! )

Schwebel
August 31, 2007, 08:15 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you just swap the barrel out on your Glock 20 and make it a .357sig. I dunno know if this is a wisetale ore not, but have read about people doing that, unsure about mags....????

trueblue1776
August 31, 2007, 08:20 AM
Schwebel- Mag dimensions are the same for the .40 S&W and the .357 Sig.

I just don't like Glock barrels and chambers for my custom ammo. The Sig uses a tighter chamber with the same reliability, plus the land and grove style rifling is more conducive to kaboom free hardcast shooting.

agent00
August 31, 2007, 08:40 AM
Thx for your answers. And even if ist possible to swap just the barrel of my g20, I want to have an second pistol in 357 sig. I will check the prices of guns you have mentioned.


concering ammo: Which load in 357 sig would yo recomend for target/fun shooting and which for sd?

tackleberry45
August 31, 2007, 02:29 PM
I am a DoubleTap ammo guy. They really get some performance out of the .357 SIG

DevilDog0402
August 31, 2007, 02:32 PM
The only .357 Sig I've fired is my Glock 33. Its great for concealed carry, but I wouldn't choose it for a range gun.

30 cal slob
August 31, 2007, 02:41 PM
Even a Glock shoots .357 Sig well. :neener:

Seriously, you can't go wrong with an HK USP Compact chambered in that caliber (although I hear they're no longer being imported in .357 Sig).

I have a Kimber Custom 1911 "meltdown" model with interchangeable .357 Sig and .38 Super bbls. One of my favorite handguns (tack driver!).

Peter M. Eick
August 31, 2007, 02:56 PM
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/eickpm/357sig_44amp.jpg

229 Sport is a great 357 Sig gun, and its big brother in 44 Automag is not bad either!

Crunker1337
August 31, 2007, 03:11 PM
Why not get a GLOCK 29 with a KKM .357SIG barrel?

threefeathers
August 31, 2007, 04:29 PM
Sig 229 or the Sig 226 in that caliber is terrific.

HM2PAC
August 31, 2007, 04:37 PM
HK P2000.

Someone had mentioned a USPc in 357Sig, I didn't realize they had that offering.
It's not listed on the HK website.

trueblue1776
August 31, 2007, 04:51 PM
Peter-
Did you get you mag bottoms from CDNN too?

agent00
August 31, 2007, 05:22 PM
Thx again for your answers. I will check if double tap ammo ist available here in Austria. If it isn't available with other company sells good 357 sig loads?

Rokman
August 31, 2007, 06:00 PM
Probably something from Sig. Maybe a Sig 229 or 239.

CWL
August 31, 2007, 06:15 PM
I'm also onboard with Sig P229.

Quiet
August 31, 2007, 07:36 PM
Can't go wrong with the SIG P-229 series.

Greg8098
August 31, 2007, 07:53 PM
I have owned three G31, G32, and G33. Out of those three, I only kinda miss the Glock 32. It was the perfect size. If the .357SIG bug ever bites again, then I am surely going with the Sig 229. Ever since I first held my new Walther P99 the other day, I finally realized that there are guns out there that are better quality than GLOCKs. A lot of the State Troopers here in Louisiana that I know are big Sig Sauer fans.

Peter M. Eick
August 31, 2007, 08:02 PM
Trueblue,

Yes I picked the mags up from CDNN a few years back. They were having a sale on them so I picked up 6 or 8 of them. That picture is old so I really should reshoot the 229 sport in its current fashion.

Sylvilagus Aquaticus
August 31, 2007, 11:43 PM
Peter always comes along with his nice toys to brighten up posts.

I've carried a P229 in 357sig every day for about 7 years now. Sometimes the original is the best; everyone else is compelled to try to catch the leader.

Regards,
Rabbit.

Glockensig
September 1, 2007, 12:35 AM
Another vote for the Sig P229!! - although my G31 is no slouch either!! As for loads here is a short list for SD:

CCI Speer Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP
Winchester Ranger - 125g -SXT
Double Tap - 125g - JHP
Corbon DPX- 125g - DPX
PMC Starfire - 125g - JHP

a short list for practice:

CCI Speer Lawman -125g - TMJ
Georgia Arms - 125g - FMJ
Master Cartridge - 125g - FMJ
Fiocchi - 124g - FMJ
CNC Cartridge - 124g - FMJ

If you want the long list, let me know!

agent00
September 1, 2007, 01:34 AM
@Glockensig Yes, please post the long list. And thx again for your answers, I will visit my local gun store on monday and will take a look at the sigs you mentioned.:)

SAG0282
September 1, 2007, 01:35 AM
SIG Pro.....soaks up recoil exceedingly well, very accurate, durable, etc.

Autolycus
September 1, 2007, 02:07 AM
Not as well as an HK P2000...;)

Guitargod1985
September 1, 2007, 03:25 AM
HK stopped chambering the USP compact for .357 sig some time ago. If you can find it, pick one up.

critrxdoc
September 1, 2007, 09:01 AM
Glock. Especially since you already have a G-20. The 357sig is a great round and easily converts to .40

Glockensig
September 1, 2007, 09:10 AM
agent00,

Here's a partial list of what's out there:
Buffalo Bore started making two loadings
Winchester Ranger has a load with a bonded JHP
Georgia Arms has a load ( which used to be called Sheer power plus ) which is new manufactued gold dot load.
Then there are Glaser loads, and I think
Federal makes a "clean" load.
Precision Cartridge makes a loading and I've heard good reports (link below )
A new place I found is WisconsinCartridge (link below )

The above I have not tried..... I have tried the following:


1.) American Eagle - 125g - FMJ F
**2.) CCI Speer Blazer - 125g - TMJ F
3.) CCI Speer Lawman -125g - TMJ F
4.) CCI Speer Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP F
5.) Collins Cartridge Co. - 125g - FMJ
6.) Corbon - 115g - JHP F
7.) Corbon - 125g - JHP F
8.) Corbon DPX- 125g - DPX
9.) Corbon Pow'R Ball - 100gr - PB
**10.) Corbon BeeSafe - 91g - BS F
11.) CNC Cartridge - 124g - FMJ F
12.) CNC Cartridge - 124g - JHP F
13.) CNC Cartridge - 102g golden sabre - JHP F
14.) DFA - 85g - Nylon ( lead free )
15.) Double Tap - 125g - JHP F
16.) Double Tap - 125g - FMJ
17.) Double Tap - 115g - JHP
18.) Double Tap - 147g - JHP
19.) Federal - 125g - FMJ F
20.) Federal - 125g - JHP F
**21.) Federal - 150g - JHP F
22.) Fiocchi - 124g - FMJ
23.) Georgia Arms - 125g - FMJ F
24.) Georgia Arms - 125g - GDHP
25.) Hornady - 124g - JHP F
26.) Hornady - 147g - JHP F
**27.) Lancer Custom - 125g - FMJ F
**28.) Lancer Custom - 125g - XTP
**29.) Lancer Custom - 125g - JHP
30.) Maine Cartridge Company - 147g - JHP F
31.) Master Cartridge - 125g - FMJ (RL) F
32.) PMC - 124g - FMJ F
33.) PMC Starfire - 125g - JHP F
34.) Precision Ammunition - 125g - JHP F
**35.) Pro-Load - 125g - JHP F
36.) Reeds's Ammo & Research - 90g - XTP
37.) Reeds's Ammo & Research - 115g - XTP
38.) Reeds's Ammo & Research - 124g - XTP
39.) Reeds's Ammo & Research - 147g - XTP
40.) Reed's Ammo & research - 124g - Gold Sabre
41.) Remington - 125g - JHP F
**42.) Remington Gold Sabre - 125g - BJHP
43.) Sellier& Belliot - 140g - FMJ F
**44.) Triton - 115g - JHP
**45.) Triton - 125g - JHP
**46.) Triton - 135g - JHP F
47.) Ultramax - 125g - FMJ (RL)* F
48.) UMC - 125g - FMJ F
49.) UMC - 125g - JHP F
50.) Wagner Acuswage - 125g - TMJ
51.) Winchester - 125g - FMJ F
52.) Winchester - 125g - JHP F
53.) Winchester - WinClean - 125g - BEB
54.) Winchester Ranger - 125g - SXT

** - no longer manufactured


You can find more at:
http://www.buffalobore.com/
http://www.precisioncartridge.com/
http://www.wisconsincartridge.com/default.asp




Links:
http://www.reedsammo.com/
http://www.cccammo.com/
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/index.php
http://www.georgia-arms.com/
http://www.cnccartridge.com/357.htm

agent00
September 1, 2007, 10:39 AM
@Glockensig Ok thx for the long list.

What do you think about the Hs2000 handgun? This gun is known in the states as Springfield Xd. A buddy has an 9 mm pistol and he likes it very much.

Ethereal
September 1, 2007, 12:38 PM
The XD/HS2000 is kinda hard to find in .357sig. Not bad though, as I'd stick with a polymer framed model to absorb as much recoil as possible. I'm not sure you're leaning toward the Glock but my recommendation is to go with HK, Glock, or even the XD. The Sigs ARE very nice built guns but feel to me like the extra weight doesn't help recoil at all. Ammo recommendation would be something light like a 115gr. from Cor-Bon @1500 fps, 575 ft/lbs. energy.

Crunker1337
September 1, 2007, 12:45 PM
I still say it would be nice to buy a .40 caliber GLOCK to go with your 20 and buy a .357SIG barrel for that.

agent00
September 1, 2007, 12:46 PM
Ethereal Yes you are right, the Hs 2000 ist not very comon here in austria. I can easy get glocks, sigs and hks. I will visit my local gunstore on monday and check what#s available.

@Crunker1337 Yes, that's no bad idea, which 40 cal glock would yo recomend? An G22?

1man
September 1, 2007, 02:47 PM
I love the 357Sig cartridge!
Definitely SIG 229 or HK USPc! I have both plus the P229 Sport in 357Sig.

JLStorm
September 1, 2007, 03:29 PM
HK really has something going with their recoil reduction system, which is just a different recoil spring design. If you had asked about 9mm I would have said go with whichever you like better because Sig is an excellent company. But when you start getting in the higher recoil rounds, and especially if you are sensitive to recoil, HK really is amazing.

doc2rn
September 1, 2007, 11:37 PM
I use the G32 with Winchester Ranger Ammo. But I like the feel better than the 229 Sig. Handle both pick what feels better.

molonlabetn
September 2, 2007, 12:04 AM
Having owned and carried 3 different handguns chambered for .357sig, I can give you my take on them:

Sig SP2340: Phenominal accuracy and quality, good ergos and reasonable size. It is a pain to disassemble and reassemble (compared to other Sigs), and the high bore-axis produces significant muzzle-flip when shooting, though quite controllable with practice.

Sig P239: I carried this gun for 2 years. With Hogue fingergroove grips, it was the most comfortable in my hand, by far. Again, great quality and accuracy, easier to carry than the SigPro, and easier to disassemble. Drawbacks are low capacity (7+1), and again, high bore-axis induced muzzle-flip.

Both were 100% reliable. I put in excess of 1,500rd through the SP2340, and 6K through the P239

The last (and my current primary carry weapon), is the Springfield XD-357 Service. I have owned and carried this gun for about a year now, and am very satisfied with it. It has excellent ergonomics, accuracy, and ease of take-down. It also has a lower bore-axis, which helps tame the recoil. Comparing the SP2340 and XD-357 is very even, the nod going to the XD because of its consistent trigger-pull and slightly superior handling... it has likewise been 100% reliable, in over 2,000rd.

I sold the SP2340, replaced it with the P239, and owned it concurrently with my XD... I'm now selling my P239 in favor of an H&K P2000 LEM in .357sig, which, if it proves to be the best of the 4 will replace the XD as well... though I will not be selling it.

agent00
September 3, 2007, 04:21 AM
Hello, I have done some investigations. Unfortunately the HK P2000 is not available in 357 sig here in Austria, but I can the sigs you have mentioned, I like the 229 best, I think I will buy one tomorow. Another option would be an used usp in 357 sig... I will report when I have got my new pistol.

Thanks for your help.

Storm
September 3, 2007, 10:51 AM
I have two guns in .357 Sig and can recommend both, a Sig Pro 2340 Blueline in .40/.357 and a Glock 33. The Sig was acquired chambered for .40 S&W but I added a factory barrel for .357 Sig. The magazines for both calibers are the same and are marked as such.

The Glock 33, great for carry, is a fine shooter. I have also added a .40 S&W barrel and a 9mm conversion barrel. Either the 33 0r 27 gives you that option. With a 26 you are going to be limited to 9mm.

Another fine gun is the Steyr MA1 in .357 Sig. Again you can go back and forth from .40 to .357 with a barrel or slide change. I hope to add .357 Sig to my Steyrs with the SA1 when it becomes available.

agent00
September 3, 2007, 04:27 PM
@Storm Thx for your answers. Yes you are right, the glock 33 is a fine pistol,i have seen one at very good price, a bit cheaper, than the sig sauer p229....

agent00
September 10, 2007, 03:12 AM
Thx again for your answers. I have bought my handgun on friday, an Sig P229. I have already used it at the range and it's a great gun.

Thanks for your help.:)

Glockensig
September 10, 2007, 08:30 AM
Congrats... hope you enjoy it more and more as you shoot it!!!!

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