[Min]

Cost aside, is it even legal?

C'mon, how many of you lust for one. I know I do.



http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/70658/OLQYZ-G36c-3.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-11/70658/g36woods2.jpg



http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-11/70658/g36kberet.jpg


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-11/70658/G36RIFLE.jpg

[SodaPop]

I'm sure you can get one in the US, but it'll cost you $10,000 or more.


I want one more than you!:neener:

[Drue]

If you are a Class 3 dealer with a letter of inquiry from a police department you can get a real G 36. If you are not a Class 3 dealer and have alomst as much money as a real G36 would cost you can get an HK SLR 8 and have it converted to a G36 clone that has a fixed butt and uses AR mags.

Drue

[Min]

Can I get one after the AWB expires?

[Skunkabilly]

Can I get one after the AWB expires?

I want one too, but even if the AWB expires, the Bush 41 :barf: ban still makes them prohibido, not to mention California's SB23 :barf: :barf:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-11/70658/g36woods2.jpg

You think HK would be able to find a model that knows gun safety. I'd do it for free :p

[Schuey2002]

We Serfs have to settle for the SL8 or an Airsoft Tokyo Marui G36C.. :rolleyes:

I'm movin' to Norway!! Who's coming with me?! :uhoh:

[Min]

Oh well. I'll just have to settle for the Steyr AUG. It's a LOT cheaper. :rolleyes:

[vertigo7]

This seems to be the closest you can get for now:

HK SL8-1 conversion project (http://alpinetek.netfirms.com/guns/SL8/index.html)

[Schuey2002]

This one looks :cool: -er!!

http://www.pbase.com/image/18601748

(Obtw, this is not my gun...) ;)

[Kaylee]

eh.. swoopy cool.. but not $2500 + swoopy cool. To me, anyhow. Not too partial to the bulky magazines or slick grip niether, but then nothing's perfect. Cool design though!

Hrmm.. I wonder.. are the SL8 internals pretty much identical then? Other than the FA trigger group, I mean?

It seems like rather than doing all the dying and chopping and parts replacing on the SL8 reciever, it would be easier to just make a domestic fixed-stock G36 receiver shell as an aftermarket "part." Sure it'd prolly need to be sold as an FFL piece, but if the demand's that hot in the US, and it could be priced out at less than a couple hundred, it sounds like a doable project..

-K

edit.. heck, for that matter.. the thing has an M-16 style bolt, right? Which means it has an M16 style barrel extension. Which means the receiver isn't a pressure-critical part, just a place for rails to ride and pins to sit in and hold onto, right?

So... wouldn't it be possible to gut one of those airsofts and retrofit the shell with SL8 internals?

[Schuey2002]

Hrmm.. I wonder.. are the SL8 internals pretty much identical then? Other than the FA trigger group, I mean?
Yep..

Virtual all of the internal (except the G36 Trigger group) and external parts are interchangeable with both guns... The only real differences are the backing plate for the recoil spring assembly on the G36 is used only in the G36 and the indentation on the SL8 receiver; which can be milled out with a dremel to make G36 mags work. lso, the (internals) for the G36 trigger group will fit/work in the Sl8 with certain mods done to it..

So... wouldn't it be possible to gut one of those airsofts and retrofit the shell with SL8 internals?

Nope! The TM G36C uses an internal frame to support the motor and other internal components. Besides, I read that the TM g36C was made slightly smaller than the real thing..

[Telperion]

Min, if the AWB sunsets then yes the G36 (a semi-auto only version) should be available once H&K gets its U.S. production plant running. The only question is whether H&K will actually make them, but I think it will be hard for H&K to pass up the cash they could make by selling them to civilians.

Now if we could also get SIGArms to start U.S. production of 55x rifles... mmm :D

[Kaylee]

hrmm.. well that's pretty cool.

Is the SL-8 still making it over here in significant numbers then? Or can the internals all be ordered as parts kits somehow?

What's the registered part -- the reciever shell or the trigger group?

-K

[Schuey2002]

Is the SL-8 still making it over here in significant numbers then?
No. They stopped importation of the SL8 in January of this year.
Or can the internals all be ordered as parts kits somehow?
Nope,sorry. H&K no longer sells parts kits of any kind. That policy ended right around the '89 AWB, I believe. :(
What's the registered part -- the receiver shell or the trigger group?
The receiver is the registered part of SL8.. ;)
heck, for that matter.. the thing has an M-16 style bolt, right? Which means it has an M16 style barrel extension. Which means the receiver isn't a pressure-critical part, just a place for rails to ride and pins to sit in and hold onto, right?
Edited to add: Yep and Yup!! :p

[Badger Arms]

Good luck getting a post-dealer-sample. H&K Prefers to keep a strangle-hold on their distributors. This is especially true for their LE distributors. They want their own people to do the demos. I had a very tough time trying to arrange an MP-7 demonstration and, in the end, abandoned the endevour. Don't know what the department ever did but they never bought anything from me.

[Schuey2002]

..it would be easier to just make a domestic fixed-stock G36 receiver shell as an aftermarket "part."
Todd at Special Weapons/Tactical Weapons Training Academy/Top Notch already sells a fixed stock kit for the SL8. He is bailing out on public sales for this kit because of (1) poor quality, (2) his poor customer service, and (3) see #1 & #2.. :rolleyes:

[Kenneth Lew]

I seriously doubt HK will make G36 clones for the US civilian market. They seem a little anal about that.

Kenneth Lew

[Telperion]

Kenneth-- I know what you mean. But money talks and I just hope HK and SIG will realize the load of cash they're sitting on with those black rifles. :uhoh:

[Skunkabilly]

But money talks and I just hope HK and SIG will realize the load of cash they're sitting on with those black rifles.

As opposed to the neutered 10-rounders :banghead: GHWB41 :banghead:

Kinda OT, but I wish Sig would market their Blaser rifles harder, for sure.

[Kenneth Lew]

Kenneth-- I know what you mean. But money talks and I just hope HK and SIG will realize the load of cash they're sitting on with those black rifles.

Ha, try getting a true German MP5 or UMP barrel from HK or getting the barrel installed on your USC or HK94. See what their responce is. See how much a HK parts dealer has to charge for them as the result of HK's policy on distribution of machinegun parts to LEO/Military circles.

I'm better off with a M16 than a MP5.

Kenneth Lew

[Schuey2002]

Ha, try getting a true German MP5 or UMP barrel from HK or getting the barrel installed on your USC or HK94.
Why call H&K Sterling when you can give LarryG36,Terry Dyer or Murray Urbach (just be sure to call early in the morning,;) ) a ring?!.. :)

[uglygun]

I played with one of the G36 imports at a local SWAT competition where quite a few Class III dealers had their wares, including some HK rep that had just about the entire LE lineup.

Is it just me or does the G36 feel akward and clumsy? It still has the totally typical HK "less than stellar" ergonomics that seem to be geared towards wookies. But that I just chaulk up as being part of what it means to own an HK. The thing that truely got to me was the seemingly STUPID arrangement of that dual optic 1.5x and red dot sight. Talk about restricted field of view with that thing, both optics had rather small tube diameters but then there's the "buldges" out either side of the sight for the batteries and adjustment knobs. The optics had to be 80-90% responsible for why I didn't like that rifle. Also didn't much like the ambidextrous charging handle latch location which seems to place the optics even higher but that could likely be done away with by using a flattop rail like seen on many a G36K and using a low mount for a much better designed red dot sight.


My days of being an HK fan are rather limited with the sole exception of being a huge fan of the HK P7 series and the HK53.

[Kenneth Lew]

I would rather have a M-16 than a HK 53. I would have HK 53 than a FNC. I would have a FNC over a G36.

Kenneth Lew

[uglygun]

For such a short barrel, I think the HK53 is it. There's just something about that little noise maker that attracts me to it like a moth to flame.

I'm not a big fan of full auto so that's not the reason I'm interested in it or would dabble in the NFA area to try to get one. The attractive part of the HK53 to me is it's terribly compact size even if the 5.56x45mm takes a real hit in performance from the shortened barrel. I have plenty of AR15s and I'm a fan of the design but the really compact HK53 holds my attention quite a bit.

Well, heck, maybe one of the compact Sig 550 series would give the little HK53 competition.... So long as I'm living a daydream, why don't I just dream about owning both?

[BlkHawk73]

G36 = full auto so no even if imported or made here still can't own.

SL8 = semi-auto version (european)

SL8-1 = semi-auto version imported into the US


Check here for more info...

http://www.hkpro.com/g36.htm

http://www.hkpro.com/g36c.htm

http://www.hkpro.com/sl8.htm