Break away trigger lock?


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Horsesense
September 6, 2007, 12:54 PM
Break-away trigger lock?

I want a trigger lock that opens with a key BUT could be broken off in case of an emergency. Say fifty lbs. pressure on a tab to break it open.

I think this would offer an acceptable compromise between access in case of emergency and safety.

I offer my idea to anyone who would commercially produce them. as my contribution to 2A.

Edit to clarify: I am the owner of this intellectual property and am now in the process of developing a working prototype.

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NeoSpud
September 6, 2007, 01:28 PM
anyone of pretty much any age with a hammer could bypass it.

Interesting idea though. Reminds me of the "childproof" pill bottles.

Horsesense
September 6, 2007, 01:53 PM
It's intended for people who don't use a lock now, because they don't want to worry about having a key on them IF they need it ASAP.

Nothing is foolproof but the fact that kids realize that if they break the lock, DAD WILL FIND OUT and therefor they have another reason to not play with it.

We put breakaway seals on Fire Extinguishers, and fire Pull Stations, for the same reason.

fletcher
September 6, 2007, 01:56 PM
Interesting concept. Much like the lock on a plastic gun case - it prevents someone who might stumble upon it from messing with it, but not a determined individual. I like the idea (you should do a poll in this thread to see what the response is).

strat81
September 6, 2007, 01:56 PM
Nothing is foolproof but the fact that kids realize that if they break the lock, DAD WILL FIND OUT

Dad may find out from the police after the kids shoot someone by accident.

fletcher
September 6, 2007, 01:58 PM
Dad may find out from the police after the kids shoot someone by accident.
That could apply to any dangerous 'childproof' thing - medicine, those cabinet locks, electrical outlet covers, etc.

Horsesense
September 6, 2007, 03:24 PM
Unfortunately, I couldn't figure out how to change this to a poll.

I'm going to get some cheep locks and do some trial and error. It could be as simple as inserting a keyring around the shaft of a plastic lock, between the trigger guard and the lock.


"Dad may find out from the police after the kids shoot someone by accident."

No lock can replace parinting and teaching kids gun safety. No lock is 100% secure (do a google on opening locks), What I am proposing is a method of maninging the risks already there (the risk of not being able to unlock the lock and the risk of a child having acess to an unlocked gun).

Look at what happened to thease kids... http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=287151

ShooterMcGavin
September 6, 2007, 03:50 PM
No lock can replace parinting and teaching kids gun safety.
I get the impression that the gun control advocates do not agree with that statement. They want children to know nothing about guns.

Personally, I think this is a good idea. However, I don't think the gun control folks would support it.

Horsesense
September 6, 2007, 04:02 PM
"I get the impression that the gun control advocates do not agree with that statement. They want children to know nothing about guns."


You are exactly right! Ignorant children = statistics that help their cause or ignorant voters, when they grow up.

Robert Hairless
September 6, 2007, 04:24 PM
Trigger locks are a relatively recent introduction. Find parents who simultaneously owned guns and raised children before there were trigger locks. Then ask how they managed to do it. My guess is that they used a technique called "parenting." One well parented child is worth a million moms anyday in the week and Chuck Schumer on Sundays.

Red Tornado
September 6, 2007, 04:28 PM
I kind of like it. I think it should be relatively easy to come up with a middle ground where a child, say 8 or 9, couldn't break it off, but an adult with an adrenaline surge could snap it right off. And if you need it "RIGHT NOW", you will have an adrenaline surge.
RT

RustyHammer
September 6, 2007, 04:31 PM
Just don't load it ....

Stretchman
September 6, 2007, 05:01 PM
Funny. My dad childproofed just about everything with his belt.

DMK
September 6, 2007, 05:07 PM
Just don't load ita) Never trust that a gun isn't loaded. You count on a gun being not loaded and one time it will be, with undesired results.

b) A gun that's not loaded will be useless in an emergency. When someone breaks your window at 0'dark thirty, how are you going to find your ammo and load your gun?

Horsesense
September 6, 2007, 05:26 PM
My local gun shops don't have the cheep plastic locks. Dose anyone know of a source on the Internet?
I figure, all a guy would need was two key rings and some practice locks, to determine how much material needed cut away from the shaft to get it to the point where he wanted the breaking point to be. One key ring around the shaft and the other key ring on the first keyring.

cassandrasdaddy
September 6, 2007, 05:34 PM
there was aproduct marketed a for semi's basically a giant rubber band that required so m uch hand strength to remove it as to make it hard for a kid to do it not sure if they are still around

NukemJim
September 6, 2007, 06:05 PM
If you google "trigger locks consumer product safety " you will be able to find a video of people removing a Master brand trigger lock from a handgun by hitting sharply on a table. (I'm a a terminal with limited capability or I would post the video myself).
It was a most interesting video.

NukemJim

Horsesense
September 7, 2007, 11:07 AM
I have decided to modify one of the quality trigger locks with a breakaway replaceable shaft and pursue commercial avenues for the product.

I'm going to call it the "Horsesense Trigger Lock"

BTW: I have never used trigger locks in the past and will not, until I have one that I can get off without a key.

strat81
September 7, 2007, 12:21 PM
My local gun shops don't have the cheep plastic locks. Dose anyone know of a source on the Internet?

MidwayUSA carries the plastic ones. I just picked up a half dozen of them for I think less than $2 each.

Red Tornado
September 7, 2007, 12:28 PM
You might check your local Sheriff's office. Mine gives away locks through some kind of "for the children" program.

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