[Anthony]

Hello Glockheads and others,

Per an Oshman's here in the Dallas area (a Smith & Wesson stocking dealer), "A glock's internal parts are made of graphite."

Of course, he was trying to show me one of the Sigmas in his case, but I declined. Although I know this is a false statement, I wanted to let the Glock owners know how low they will go.

Let the defense of the honor of Glock begin!

- Anthony

P.S. I'm on Glock's side...I own a Model 20 and love it.

[9x19]

Didn't they also tell you that Colt is no longer selling handguns to the public?! :rolleyes: :uhoh:

[Boats]

Graphite?




That'd be too expensive a material for use in a Glock.:evil:

[PCRCCW]

Graphite.....ya....thats it! NO! WAIT! Carbon Fiber..ya..now thats the ticket.....NO! WAIT! Its a Composite Blend of Carbon/Kevlar/Nomex...ya ya...thats it! And.....um.......and I invented it! YA THATS IT!............

Oh god I love some gun store commandoes..........LOVE EM!

Glockers Im not sure this is a good thing or not. You will have the most lubricous internals around......to bad it wont take the impact very well :rolleyes:

BTW....I invented the internet.........not Al Gore :neener:

shoot well

[boing]

Just admit it...you invented Al Gore, too.

[Omaha-BeenGlockin]

Just me glad you didn't waste your money on a Smegma.

[dsk]

There is just no end to the pure B.S. I hear from gun dealers these days. Once upon a time you only heard that crap from the "car salesmen" at flea-market gun shows. Nowadays even gun store clerks do that. Colt's out of business, Kimber's parts are made of powdered metal, Glock is the prefered weapon of Navy SEALS, yadayadayada.....

My apologies to those here who actually make a living at gun stores and have to put up with the idiots that give you all such a bad reputation.

[9x19]

dsk,

Its OK... most of you guys have done a lot to put customers in a better light for those of us who must deal with the dolts on that side of the counter! :neener:

[Tom B]

Thats the reason Glocks can get thru metal detectors unless they KB due to the shifting and pitching of movement.

[HankB]

Graphite? Like in a pencil? Hmmm . . . I thought Glocks were made of porcelain, so you can sneak them through airport metal detectors? :neener:

I wouldn't trust the word of anyone trying to sell you a Sigma.

[litework]

If this is true, why isn't there a Glock no. 2?

[Peter M. Eick]

You should have piped back that a diamond is also made of graphite, just in a different crystalographic,,,,, oh never mind, at this point he would have glazed over and not listened to a single word you said.

[Anthony]

Well, since he excused himself to take a call on a phone I never heard ring when I gave him my "quit BSing me look" I'd say he knew he'd overstepped his bounds...LOL.

Good one litework!

- Anthony

[capt_happypants]

Usually, that sort of overheated hyperbole from GSC's stems from ignorance.

Simple, straightforward facts do more towards a sale.

"Glocks have a high-density polymer frame, and use steel for the slide and the barrel. It's not undetectable, but it's very simple and very tough. The FBI issues the Glock 22 and 23 to its' agents, it's very popular with state and local law enforcement agencies."

"Colt is still selling to the civilian pistol market. We're seeing a lot of the Series 1991A1s at the distributors - there's a limited number of Pythons being made. I can check price and availability for you."

"The Navy SEALs use the SigSauer P226 in 9mm. The P228 is also available in the military as the M11, an alternative to the Beretta 92. SigArms was reserving most of their production of 228s for the government and LE, but we are seeing very limited availability for civilians."

If you can find a gunshop that has decent prices and has a low level of BS, it's worth spending some extra money there. They are very hard to find.

[arinvolvo]

Thats funny, cause I heard that glocks were made from recycled hockey pucks.:confused: :D

[Mike Irwin]

And obviously this guy's intra-cranial parts are made of mushy noodles.


Jesus.

:rolleyes:

[George Hill]

Sometimes the propper response is to "Point and Laugh".

[Glock-A-Roo]

Not surprised. When I was shopping for an AR15 I asked a local dealer what he would charge to get me a stripped lower. I was considering building it myself.

He replied that I would be committing a felony by building the rifle, but he had a great postban Bushmaster XM15-A2 shorty he would tearfully sacrifice for... $1100.

I walked out. Went to a more honest dealer and ordered a Bushy A3 Dissipator with an ARMS #44 rear flip-up sight and fluted barrel for $850.

[Archer]

During a wonderful rant on gunstore commando ignorance, dsk held this up as an example of said ignorance:

Kimber's parts are made of powdered metal


...well, actually, some of their parts ARE made of powdered metal... thats what the MIM process uses.

As for Graphite, in terms of structural components, Graphite fibers are some of the stiffest available...but are not used in Glocks.

Graphite fiber is a type of carbon fiber made from a pitch precursor. Extremely stiff but quite brittle. Because it has virtually zero coefficient of thermal expansion, its commonly used in satellite structural components (because satellites can have a 500 degree differential from shadow to sunlight).

Carbon fiber is made from a PAN (polyacrylonitrile) precursor. Quite stiff, and less brittle than graphite fiber. This is what you find in consumer goods such as tennis racquets and arrow shafts.

Some polymer receivers use Carbon fiber (HK UMP, HK G36 as examples) as reinforcing elements in the polymide matrix.

As far as I am aware, Glocks use fiberglass filaments as reinforcement (30% by volume, IIRC).