Wolf's unfinished guide to the HiPoint C9 (and others)


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wolf_from_wv
September 10, 2007, 03:39 PM
By using the following, you imply that you are able to follow gun safety rules, and that you are able to use basic hand tools without inflicting great bodily harm on yourself or others…

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Disassembly

Basic tools needed:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9basictools.jpg

1/8" pin punch (tight fit)
3/32" pin punch (looser fit)
ball pein hammer
bench blocks (hockey pucks)

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1. Make sure gun is unloaded.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9Step1.jpg

2. Pull slide back and engage safety.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9step2.jpg

3. Punch out roll pin with the punch.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9frameandslide.jpg

4. Pull slide back and lift up. Watch out for the recoil spring under the barrel in the front.

5. (A.) Sear is removed by tipping the cam slightly to the right. Then, the sear can be lifted up and out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9dropsafety.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9sear.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9dropsafetylevercloseup.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9dropsafetylever.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9dropsafetybottom.jpg


6. (A) Underneath the sear, is the counterweight pivot pin. The counterweight is removed through the magazine well. (Flat side goes down.)

7. (A) This is the ejector pivot pin. It should be driven towards the top of the slide. When you remove the punch from the hole, watch out for the spring that is behind the ejector.

Reassembly

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/align_pin_and_hole.jpg

When you go to reassemble the pistol, the slide retainer goes down in the hole indicated. Once you have reassembled the pistol, pull the slide back a couple times, and test for function with a snap cap.



NOTES:__________________________________________________________
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C9 overview pictures

Right side

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9rightsidewithoutgrip.jpg

The magazine lockout fits with the “_” part of the “L” at the bottom. The little wire spring fits with the “_” part of the “L” in the little hole in the magazine release button. To remove the grip, lift the top of it up a little, and then lift the grip towards the top of the pistol.

Left side

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9leftsidewithoutgrip.jpg

Top

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9topofframe.jpg

Inside the slide

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9insideviewofslide.jpg

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Comparison of C9 and JHP .45

Right side

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9andJHP45rightside.jpg

Left side

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9andJHP45leftside.jpg

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Basic operation

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/sear_cam_alignment.jpg

5. Without a magazine in the pistol, the place indicated by the arrow fits in the notch (D), and blocks the trigger and sear cam from operating (C). When you insert a magazine, it is pushed up, allowing the trigger and sear to operate. The trigger linkage (A) pushes down on the cam (B), which pulls down on the sear. This allows the firing pin to advance forward, and strike the primer.

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Other information

Ghost Ring Sight Installation
To remove open sight from sight base:
1. Use allen wrench and screwdriver to remove rear sight from slide. Place screws and elevation spring to the side.
2. Turn windage screw counterclockwise until open sight releases from left side of sight base

To install ghost ring sight:
1. With inset (counter bore) side towards you, start ghost ring into the key hole slot in the left side of the sight base. Turn windage screw clockwise to center.
2. Reinstall ghost ring and sight base back into the slide, being careful to properly align the elevation spring.

Do NOT over tighten the elevation screw.

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9_chamber_port.jpg

New models have a chamber observation port.

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9_barrel_assembly.jpg

Barrel assembly

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9mm Data

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/9mm_measurements.jpg

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greener
September 10, 2007, 05:28 PM
Good work!

wolf_from_wv
October 29, 2007, 04:38 PM
Couldn't figure out how to edit...

By using the following, you imply that you are able to follow gun safety rules, and that you

are able to use basic hand tools without inflicting great bodily harm on yourself or others…


HiPoint Pistols 101

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Disassembly

Basic tools needed:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9tools.jpg

1/8" pin punch (tight fit)
3/32" pin punch (looser fit)
1/16" pin punch (tight fit)
3/16" pin punch (tight fit)
ball pein hammer
bench blocks (hockey pucks)
3/32" Hex key/allen wrench
1/8" flat screwdriver

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/unloaded.jpg

1. Make sure gun is unloaded.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/slideretainer.jpg

1.5 This shows the slide retainer in the rear of the slide.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9Step1.jpg

2. Pull slide back and engage safety.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9step2.jpg

3. Punch out roll pin with the punch.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/retainerremovalandinstallation.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/recoilspring.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/returnspring.jpg

4. Pull slide back and lift up. Watch out for the recoil spring under the barrel in the

front.

That is basic HiPoint pistol disassembly.


Reassembly

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/align_pin_and_hole.jpg

When you go to reassemble the pistol, the slide retainer goes down in the hole indicated.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/retainingpinandhole.jpg

Once you have reassembled the pistol, pull the slide back a couple times, and test for

function with a snap cap.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9frameandslide.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/recoilspringguiderod.jpg

Proper location of the guide rod.

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HiPoint Pistols 201

Advanced disassembly:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9sear.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/searremoval1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/searremoval2.jpg

5. Sear is removed by tipping the cam slightly to the right (or removing it). Then, the sear

can be lifted up and out.

THE DROP SAFETY

This is a necessary assembly. It helps to keep you pistol from firing if it is dropped. I

advise dropping it to see if it really works.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9dropsafety.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9dropsafetylever.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9dropsafetylevercloseup.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9dropsafetybottom.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/counterweight.jpg

6. Underneath the sear, is the counterweight pivot pin. The counterweight is removed through

the magazine well. (Flat side goes down.)

THE EJECTOR

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/driveextractoruptoremove.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/extractorremoved.jpg

7. This is the ejector pivot pin. It should be driven towards the top of the slide to remove

it. When you remove the punch from the hole, watch out for the spring that is behind the

ejector. Reinstall the pin from the top.

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C9 overview pictures

Old and new slide retainer

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/oldandnewslideretainer.jpg

Right side

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9rightsidewithoutgrip.jpg

The magazine lockout fits with the “_” part of the “L” at the bottom. The little wire spring

fits with the “_” part of the “L” in the little hole in the magazine release button. To

remove the grip, lift the top of it up a little, and then lift the grip towards the top of the

pistol.

Left side

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9leftsidewithoutgrip.jpg

Top

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9topofframe.jpg

Inside the slide

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9insideviewofslide.jpg

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Comparison of C9 and JHP .45

Right side

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9andJHP45rightside.jpg

Left side

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9andJHP45leftside.jpg

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Basic operation

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/sear_cam_alignment.jpg[img]

5. Without a magazine in the pistol, the place indicated by the arrow fits in the notch (D),

and blocks the trigger and sear cam from operating (C). When you insert a magazine, it is

pushed up, allowing the trigger and sear to operate. The trigger linkage (A) pushes down on

the cam (B), which pulls down on the sear. This allows the firing pin to advance forward, and

strike the primer.

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/safetyblockssear.jpg

Picture of safety engaged. The safety prevent the sear from falling.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/safetyreadytofire.jpg

A picture of the safety when it is ready to fire.

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Other information

Ghost Ring Sight Installation

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/rearsight.jpg

To remove open sight from sight base:
1. Use allen wrench and screwdriver to remove rear sight from slide. Place screws and

elevation spring to the side.
2. Turn windage screw counterclockwise until open sight releases from left side of sight base

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/rearsightremoved.jpg

To install ghost ring sight:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/rearsightghostring.jpg

1. With inset (counter bore) side towards you, start ghost ring into the key hole slot in the

left side of the sight base. Turn windage screw clockwise to center.
2. Reinstall ghost ring and sight base back into the slide, being careful to properly align

the elevation spring.

Do NOT over tighten the elevation screw.

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9_chamber_port.jpg

New models have a chamber observation port.

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/C9_barrel_assembly.jpg

Barrel assembly

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9mm Data

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/9.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/9mm_measurements.jpg

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Magazines

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/8roundvs10round.jpg

The 8 round magazines will not work in the carbine because they are shorter.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/magazine1.jpg

Left to right: 8 round pistol, 10 round pistol, 10 round carbine. The 10 round pistol

magazine has a block on the bottom to help prevent it from pivoting in the magazine well. The

carbine magazines are capable of being inserting in the magazine well of the pistol, but may

not feed reliably.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/magazine2.jpg

The feed lips appear to be the same.

Magazine followers

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/followers1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/wolf_from_wv/followers2.jpg

denfoote
October 29, 2007, 06:19 PM
All I needed for disassembly of my High Point was a shovel and an obscure patch of the Southwestern Sonoran Desert!!!

Whirlwind06
October 30, 2007, 12:26 PM
If you haven't posted this over at the Hi-Point Forums. Please do so.

http://hipoint.7.forumer.com/

novaDAK
October 31, 2007, 01:49 AM
wow even the inside of that gun is ugly! :eek:


but seriously, I wouldn't mind one for a cheeep shooter :)
still considering buying the carbine if I can find one at a reasonable price (in my area)

Grandpa Shooter
October 31, 2007, 03:34 PM
Good job! Never thought of getting hockey pucks as bench blocks. Now all I gotta do is find a spoting goods store in Az that carries hockey stuff.

obxned
October 31, 2007, 05:16 PM
I never realized you needed 1/2 a blacksmiths shop to be able to disassemble and clean a HiPoint. Now I know.

B yond
November 1, 2007, 01:47 AM
It looks like you didn't have much trouble getting the barrel out. This would lead me to believe it wouldn't be too tough to swap it out for the longer barrel on the model with a compensator. Have you tried this?

The only reason I ask is Hi-Point told me it couldn't be done, and I've never understood why.

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