What power spotting scope.....


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Herk30
September 13, 2007, 03:42 PM
would you recommend for being able to see bullet holes on a target at say 100 out to 200 yards? I've been wasting a lot of time walking back and forth lately sighting rifles in. Thanks.

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spencerhut
September 13, 2007, 04:37 PM
Any el chepo 20x on up will do fine for .30 cal and larger holes. Might get a little more powerful one for less than .30 cal. After that . . . skys the limit, water proof, armored, fancy tripod etc.

Here's a decent "starter" model. Made in China, but that's all you will find in this price range anyway.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=185778&t=11082005

Blackfork
September 13, 2007, 04:45 PM
I've got a 821 Kowa on a competiton stand. At 200 yards if the light is good and there isn't a lot of mirage I can see 223 holes at 200 yards. Even 30 cal can be tough to see if there is wind and a lot of mirage. I have the 20-60 eyepiece on it. I usually crank it back off the 60 power a bit at 200.

At 100 you can see everything, all the time.

I have a Champions Choice stand, not a little tripod.

My Kowa ads a LOT of enjoyment to my range shooting. I use it in Highpower Rifle competiton as well. It's worth every cent.

I see folks struggling with scopes, binocs, little cheap spotting scopes. I have a little 610 Kowa 20 power on the inside of my bullseye pistol box.

Very happy to have spent the money on a really good scope.

Walkalong
September 13, 2007, 05:23 PM
I have a Tasco World Class 20 to 60 Power with a 60MM objective. It's not an expensive scope, under $200, but it will show .22 & 6MM bullet holes at 200 yards easily. On a day with a lot of mirage you have to dial the power down. Bought it long ago on a tight budget. :)

Optics Planet (http://www.opticsplanet.net/spottingscopes.html) usually has very competitive prices and sales on stuff.

NuJudge
September 13, 2007, 05:32 PM
About 3 years ago I switched to shooting mostly .223 from shooting mostly .308, and I upgraded to the 821 Kowa with the 27X long eye relief on a Ray-Vin stand. Most of the time I cannot see .223 holes because of mirage, deep shade, or something. Higher power does not seem to help much.

If you want to consistently SEE them, then get Shoot-N-See, or some immitator of theirs.

CDD

glockman19
September 13, 2007, 09:27 PM
Big 5 had a Baskra 20-60 for sale with tripod, soft & hard case for only $89

LHB1
September 14, 2007, 12:27 AM
Quote: "What power spotting scope....."

Quality of lens/scope may be as important or more important than power. More power in a cheap, poor quality scope may not have the sharpness to resolve .22 cal holes at 200. As posted above, too much power may not work because of mirage and wind vibration. For me, 25X in a GOOD quality scope was enough to see .22 cal holes at 200 yds in the black. Holes in white part of target were easier to see. Same scope with 32X eyepiece had less resolving power due to aforementioned mirage and wind vibration. There were very few days in Corpus Christi when air/wind conditions allowed the 32X to function satisfactorily.

Good shooting and be safe.
LB

countertop
September 17, 2007, 10:51 AM
a lot of mirage
On a day with a lot of mirage
because of mirage
because of mirage

Not knowing much about spotting scopes but thinking of getting one for mostly the same reason as the original poster, I'm a bit of a newbie at this so, pardon the dumb question, but you all used a term of art that I don't understand in a manner that would assume I (and the original poster) know what the heck your discussing.

Can you care to explain what Mirage is??

Stover954rr
September 17, 2007, 11:14 AM
Mirage is distortion of whatever you are looking at through the scope due to effect of heat on the air molecules. I.E. when you look down a paved road in the summer time and you see the waves (heat rising off of it). That is mirage.

kolob10
October 7, 2007, 11:58 AM
I have a Bausch & Lomb elite 15-45 power that serves me well out to 200 yards for 22 cal holes on a good day (little mirage and good light). If you look around, you can find them for $250 on the web. Good shooting

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