Are these guns valuable?(pics)


September 13, 2007, 09:06 PM
Or worthy shooters?
Just found a new gunshop on the net and they have these guns.
Itsí a Colt, 45 ACP. Asking price is 300 USD.
S&W 44 Russian, Double Action, 280 USD.

Anything good here worth considering?


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September 13, 2007, 09:10 PM
Go buy that S&W, NOW!

September 13, 2007, 09:12 PM
Don't know that much about S&W Schofield, but if you can get or reload .44 Russian ammo, that looks like quite a deal.

Colt DA revolvers have become quite expensive here in the States. That one looks like it's been satin-nickel plated, or maybe hard chromed. Not much value as a collector, but if it is mechanically sound, it should make a wonderful shooter. Looking at the Colt closely, are you sure its .45ACP and not .45 Colt? The cylinder looks kind of long for a .45ACP. It could just be the angle at which the picture was taken.

September 13, 2007, 09:16 PM
Finish ins't original on any of them. The S&W is a good deal then? Can I reload 44 Russian by cutting down 44 mag cases?
The website says 45 ACP, but it could be wrong, looks pretty long.


September 13, 2007, 09:20 PM
They also have this other S&W S.A. 44 Russian, original finish , little left, but itís 550 USD, more than Iím willing to spend.


September 13, 2007, 09:33 PM
yes. you can trim magnum or .44 special brass or buy russian direct from starline.

ryan b
September 14, 2007, 11:22 AM
Buy Them Both

Jim Watson
September 14, 2007, 11:45 AM
The Colt may well be a 1917 .45 ACP, they did not shorten the cylinders like S&W did. The hard rubber grips are not USGI. A commercial New Service .45 ACP is uncommon, but the refinish would eliminate collector interest.

The DA S&W looks like the rather uncommon 1 9/16" cylinder version, but again refinish hurts collector value and the DAs are not as desirable as the SAs any way.

My .44 Russian came with some ammunition loaded in shortened .44 Magnum brass and I reloaded it with no trouble. Some sources say that the old breaktops should not be shot with smokeless. I did mine a little with no excess wear, but decided to let a collector have it.

All the prices are very good by US standards, even refinished; but I do not know how prices compare in B.A.

September 14, 2007, 12:03 PM
All of the S&W No.3 DA and SA Top Break frames were manufactured prior to 1899 even though they were retailed up until around 1913. They actually qualify as antiques and should be "importable" into the U.S. as such. (I don't believe that .44 Russian is considered to be "readily available in the commericial market")
As Jim said, these are good U.S. values even with the refinish on the DA.

September 15, 2007, 01:57 AM
Ummm, what is the URL for the online gun shop where those revolvers are listed... I just want to take a good look at them, really!! :uhoh: :D

Michael Zeleny
September 17, 2007, 01:44 AM
Here ( is a shop with nice inventory of U.S. and European guns in Buenos Aires. Regrettably, they do not respond to email inquiries.

September 17, 2007, 01:50 AM
44 Russian $280 ???? Uh Buy it NOW don't even think about it!

Lone Star
September 17, 2007, 03:45 PM
M. Zelany-

That shop you linked has a fascinating array of arms. But their pics don't always enlarge when clicked on

They have some unusual stuff, like a Cobra with three-inch bbl. in .22LR Lots of other Colts, too. Plenty of Mauser Broomhandles...

Lone Star

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