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Combat-wombat
July 8, 2003, 02:14 PM
Has anyone seen that? I think it was a pretty good movie. Anyway, does anyone know what gun that assassin used? I'm thinking it's a Savage.

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4v50 Gary
July 8, 2003, 02:16 PM
I thought it was a Savage too, but I didn't pay too much attention. Could also be a Remington but I'm leaning with first impression.

JohnKSa
July 8, 2003, 11:07 PM
It was a great movie right up until the scene at the beach house which was silly, implausible and poorly thought out.

1. A very good hitman walks into a beach house he thinks should be occupied, finds it empty (most of the furniture gone too) and doesn't even check things out.

2. He gets shot from behind, the bullet goes through him and blows blood all over the glass in front of him BUT doesn't hit the glass directly in front of him.

3. The kid who's just witnessed his father's death, realizes he's next on the list, and has his father's killer in his sights can't pull the trigger.

4. The other very good hitman lets the poignant scene play out instead of immediately killing the boy.

keyhole
July 8, 2003, 11:48 PM
movies=entertainment

like watching, but understand that they rarely imitate life. Kinda like 'ol Clint.

JohnKSa
July 9, 2003, 12:10 AM
The scene was, in my opinion, inconsistent with the rest of the movie.

It's not a matter of suspended disbelief, it's a matter of being consistent to the premise that the story is based on.

The movie had followed, more or less, our standard reality. (Bullets break glass, Tom Hanks character was careful and good because he didn't want to die, other hitman was remorseless and good at self-preservation) Then at the end, it all goes out the window so (...they can wrap things up quickly? ...they can change the movie into a little morality play? ...I don't really know why.)

It would be sort of like at the end of a relatively normal Superman movie, Superman commits suicide by jumping off a building then at the funeral, Lois Lane says she never liked him anyway and they find out he was a child molester on the side.

George Hill
July 9, 2003, 12:21 AM
I got the DVD. It's a good movie. I'm not pleased with the ending... but it's still a good movie.

Hellofa mouse gun isn't it?

BamBam-31
July 9, 2003, 12:41 AM
I'm kinda with JohnKSa on this one. The glass not breaking was not as big a deal to me, however, as the "After that, I never touched another gun" line was. Like guns, all by their lonesome, caused all the kid's misery. Definitely a parting shot by Hollywood at the 2nd.

Enjoyable movie, otherwise. Dunno what that gun was, tho.

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July 9, 2003, 11:00 AM
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Topgun
July 9, 2003, 02:18 PM
and (he said proudly).....I have one for sale for $150 and I can do a private party transfer on it if anyone is near Sacramento.

10 shots. Staggered mag like a BHP.

.32 auto.

BozemanMT
July 9, 2003, 11:37 PM
3. The kid who's just witnessed his father's death, realizes he's next on the list, and has his father's killer in his sights can't pull the trigger.

4. The other very good hitman lets the poignant scene play out instead of immediately killing the boy.


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You need to get the DVD and watch teh deleted scenes. One of the very early scenes that is cut is how the kid is a total gun nut and loves guns hides them under the bed (even in the hotel when they are on the run) and another deleted scene has him at the very beginning of the movie (when he's doing the monologue) taking about how he's never touched a gun since the winter of 193x)

It makes a lot more sense. Usually i agree with the cut scenes, but I don't think you get the sense that the kid is a gun nut and why he can't pull the trigger without it.

Well worth watching the deleted scenes, esp with the director commentary.

I liked the movie.

JohnKSa
July 10, 2003, 12:16 AM
I liked the movie, but the ending sort of ruined it for me.

Sort of like eating your favorite desert and then taking the last bite and finding a roach in that mouthful...

I don't see how the kid's being a gun nut makes it less likely that he'll pull the trigger, nor how it would make it more likely that he'd completely avoid guns afterwards.

Actually, I'm seeing a general trend in movies lately as if the movie makers can't figure out how to end them gracefully so they just wrap them up quickly and perhaps hope that people won't notice the slipshod ending.

A Perfect Murder is another classic example of this that comes immediately to mind. To accept the ending as fairly realistic, you have to completely forget the character development at the beginning of the movie.

Recon By Fire
July 17, 2003, 07:01 AM
Shotgun Through the wall, that is what the movie is ALL about.

It shows that damage can occur even throw barriers such as a wall.

TheOtherOne
July 18, 2003, 12:10 AM
I've got the DVD and just for kicks I had it running in the background with the descriptions for the visually impared turned on and the lady doing the commentary describe it as a "Luger pistol".

10-Ring
July 18, 2003, 12:11 AM
Very entertaining flick!

Thirties
August 12, 2003, 01:31 PM
It was a Savage, no question about it. Not possible to tell if it was a .32 or a .380, however.

Stinger
August 12, 2003, 02:09 PM
Definitely a parting shot by Hollywood at the 2nd.

Maybe, maybe not.

I just watched it yesterday. I think the reason the kid didn't ever touch another gun was because he saw how his father lived and died. He saw how being a witness to murder eventually got his whole family killed. And yes, I realize that the people did the killing and not the guns, but if your whole family was murdered, it might slant your views a little also. The kid definitely had a view of guns that most of us never see.

Sure, the glass didn't get shot out, but who cares, it was still a great movie. Right, wrong, or indifferent, people have the right to NOT own guns, just as much as they do to own guns. They have their reasons, we have ours. It's their perogative, so long as they don't try to IMPOSE their beliefs to take away our rights.

And it was just a movie,

Stinger

zahc
August 12, 2003, 02:38 PM
I thought it was great, very good, except the ending.

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