How often do you clean primer pockets?


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Razor 10
July 8, 2003, 04:14 PM
Hello I was just wondering this because I see most everyone loads on a progressive press. I however load on a RCBS Rockchucker, I know its primitive but it works and it keeps me out of trouble.


Thanks
Nick:)

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pax
July 8, 2003, 04:19 PM
You're supposed to clean them? :confused:

;)

pax

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Razor 10
July 8, 2003, 04:22 PM
I forgot to add I clean mine after every firing. My usual sequence goes like this. Resize/decap, bell case mouth, tumble and finally clean the primer pocket. Maybe this is not a good idea but I have never had a misfire due to a high primer from build up in the pocket.


I will add that I try and do it gently as I do not want to remove any brass.
just get rid of the crud.



Nick:)

E357
July 8, 2003, 04:33 PM
Razor: you need to break yourself out of those nasty habits. I once asked my machine gun shooting friend how he cleaned all his brass - he laughed and said, "I don't 'em at all!"

Anything that needs to be reloaded on a single stage press gets its primer pocket cleaned in my house.

Elliot

Pheonix
July 8, 2003, 04:58 PM
I never thought of not cleaning them as an option.

Quantrill
July 8, 2003, 06:10 PM
Anything that needs to be reloaded on a single stage press gets its primer pocket cleaned in my house.

I agree Quantrill

Route 66
July 8, 2003, 07:21 PM
I used to clean the primer pockets until I decided to not do it to see what would happen. I have probably reloaded the same casings 6-8 times and not had a FTF so I've decided to not clean the pockets until I encounter an ignition problem.

To Razor 10 - I tumble before I decap, otherwise I seem to get a kernal of the corn cob media stuck in the primer hole and then have to poke it out before I reprime. That really slows down the process.

John

Arub
July 8, 2003, 08:03 PM
I have a four stage turret I use as a multiple stage single.

I first tumble, decap and size, prime with a hand primer, load casings, seat bullet, crimp. Seems to work so far.

Nero Steptoe
July 8, 2003, 08:31 PM
When doing precision reloading for rifle fire, I always clean primer pockets. For loading .223 in bulk to run through my Bushmaster, I never clean the primer pockets. I never clean handgun brass primer pockets and never have "high primer" problems.

Standing Wolf
July 8, 2003, 09:27 PM
I clean primer pockets when they look unusually dirty: every fourth or fifth reload, typically.

swifter
July 8, 2003, 11:49 PM
Rarely to never on handgun rounds, always on rifle, except stuff I load on the Dillon, which I don't expect much from...

Tom

Neal Bloom
July 9, 2003, 12:06 AM
Since I was taught to clean them it has become a habit. My friends who reload scoff at my cleaning the primer pockets for handguns. Maybe they are right for handguns but my rifles brass gets the primer pockets cleaned everytime.

KP95DAO
July 9, 2003, 01:25 AM
Large pistol and large rifle-everytime. The small ones-never.

Razor 10
July 9, 2003, 07:46 AM
Thanks for all the replys. It seems, maybe I could lay off the cleaning thing at least for a couple of firings. I was just told by my grandfather about 8 yrs ago, when I first started, to make sure the primer pockets were clean to help avoid high primers.


Route 66, When I am pulling out the cases from my seperator I pop those kernals out with a small punch. I have tried tumbling before I resize but The extra work really doesnt bother me as the tumbler gets rid of alot of the crud in the pocket and having to pop out kernals, to me anyway doesnt seem to bad.





Thanks Again
Nick:)

yzguy
July 9, 2003, 12:06 PM
I thought part of the reason for tumbling was to clean the brass for sizing. So you don't have extra crap on the brass...

Route 66
July 9, 2003, 06:35 PM
Razor 10 - You might want to try not cleaning the primer pockets. I have a single stage press and inspect each case as it gets a primer and I do not encounter high primers even after multiple firings. I'm always looking for ways to save time which can translate to more range time.

A tip I got recently was to add a teaspoon of Brasso to the corn cob media before I tumble. It made a world of difference. I tend to be a range scrounger by picking up fired cases from others that can be very tarnished. Adding Brasso really helps with that.



:cool:

dickwholliday
July 9, 2003, 07:39 PM
i quit cleaning any of them about 100,000 rounds ago with no ill effects....DICK

martin
July 9, 2003, 09:03 PM
Adding Brasso to your media is a VERY bad idea. It will weaken the brass due to its ammonia content.

308win
July 9, 2003, 09:45 PM
I must have missed something along the line - anywho, I tumble after resize/decap to get rid of the case lube before priming, charging, bullet seating and crimping.

ed dixon
July 10, 2003, 06:31 PM
i quit cleaning any of them about 100,000 rounds ago with no ill effects....DICK

But, Dick, where's your proof? :D (Empirical evidence... priceless.)

Paul "Fitz" Jones
July 10, 2003, 07:39 PM
If cleaning primer pockets makes you happy well do it .

I decided not to do it a few million rounds ago.

garand
July 10, 2003, 08:42 PM
Yes but a more focused question is who out there is NOT cleaning their primer pockets and reloading for 600+ yards? I clean my primer pockets for precision ammo and it makes a hell of a difference in accuracy! If all you are doing is making ammo for blasting then cleaning the primer pockets makes no difference.

dickwholliday
July 10, 2003, 09:54 PM
i would post pictures of all the plaques and trophies and junk i've won with my reloads but i quit keeping that stuff years ago.....so i guess no ill effects since my reloads have stood the test of time.....DICK

uglymofo
July 11, 2003, 09:43 AM
I use a primer pocket uniformer on a drill press to deepen and square up the primer pocket to allow me to use the brass in an M1A without having to worry about slamfires or doubling. Zediker suggests knocking the surface down ~.004" with .011" as a rough maximum. I've got mine set to .009".

Once the pocket has been uniformed, I never clean them again. Iused to after every firing, but I eliminated the step as an experiment, and haven't noticed a difference at the chrony nor the target, out to 800yd. I haven't shot these rounds at 1000yd yet.

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