The 17 for sure would do a good job of fulfilling the pistol role. In addition to a good rifle, of course.
September 16, 2007, 07:36 PM
Ok I am confused if you want the one that shoots to POA get the 92, Glock groups tend to be 3-5" on the norm for me. I have a 32. My 92 can be grouped into a 1-2" group from 15 yds, but for carry I like the .357 sig better.
September 16, 2007, 07:42 PM
I chose Glock because of its compactness, simplicity and reliability.
I own a Beretta 92 and I really love it. The 92 is, by far, a much smoother shot than the G17 and also very reliable the drawback is the size and weight.
September 16, 2007, 08:10 PM
September 16, 2007, 08:15 PM
Glock, simple, perfection!:cool:
September 16, 2007, 08:18 PM
Whatever one you shoot better
September 16, 2007, 08:24 PM
Of the two choices available I chose the Beretta 92. I'm an armorer for my department and we use Berettas. However my personal choice for an all around go to gun would have to be either my 4" S&W 686 or 4" Colt Python and I'm leaning toward the S&W for various reasons. If I had to choose any semi-auto it would be my Colt Series 70 MK IV 45 ACP or my Beretta 92F.
September 16, 2007, 08:35 PM
They both would do just fine. Both are extremely reliable. Both are plenty accurate. I like the 92 better personally because it feels right to me, I like the trigger, and it has about the smoothest recoil of any 9mm out there. You can't go wrong with the G17 either though.
September 16, 2007, 08:55 PM
Glock 17 w/ 33rd magazines~! ;)
Gets my vote~! :D
September 16, 2007, 09:02 PM
Not too crazy about either. I'd rather have a CZ 75 model or a Sig P226.
September 16, 2007, 09:31 PM
September 16, 2007, 10:12 PM
I would get the 92, it is current military and a quite few PD's use them. Parts, mags readily availible.
September 17, 2007, 01:23 AM
Lots more PDs use Glock than Beretta.
Taurus 617 CCW
September 17, 2007, 01:33 AM
Whatever is in my hand at the time. No preference.
September 17, 2007, 01:39 AM
I have a G19 and 2 Italian 92s & would feel equally secure knowing what I had at the ready. The Glock is just so simple, durable & reliable. The Beretta just feels like an extension of my hand when I pick one up and has proven to me to be a very reliable & dependable pistol :scrutiny: This would really be a tough choice, but if push came to shove & I really have to pick one...I'd probably go w/ the more practical choice, Glock ;)
September 17, 2007, 02:15 AM
Of the choices you give I'd pick the Glock 17.
I have a Glock 19 & 26 but just bought a Beretta 92FSINOX.
Because I already had a Glock 19 & 26 and wanted to mix it up a little. I'll probably still get a 17 in the future.
If you can't tell my my screen name I love the 19. IMHO the best 9mm made.
September 17, 2007, 02:30 AM
Beretta... more forgiving of a lack of holsters. And you will be carrying the gun much more often than shooting it.
Oh, who am I kidding? I just like the DA/SA trigger setup.
September 17, 2007, 10:08 AM
September 17, 2007, 10:17 AM
I feel like the Beretta is a lot easier to shoot well. The recoil impulse on the 92FS is very smooth and easy to control for rapid shooting.
Neither of them have very comfortable grips, but the Beretta still beats the Glock in this category.
September 17, 2007, 11:56 AM
Ultimately, the one you shoot better. I chose Glock
September 17, 2007, 12:14 PM
I have both. I like both. I shoot them both a lot. They have been completely reliable. I chose Glock for simplicity. The 17 also has two more rounds of capacity. I believe the Glock is slightly more durable.
I would be glad to have either one in a bad situation.
September 17, 2007, 12:18 PM
If at all psooible get both!! But of the 2 the glock is easier to carry and maintain.
I own both and love both but the beretta requires more lubrication - if mine gets slightly dry it starts jamming until it is lubricated again. One thing in favor of the Beretta is the fact that the model 96 barrel, slide and magazines wili work on it giving you the ability to shoot 40 s&w.
September 17, 2007, 12:41 PM
Glock of course!
But if you were in the military, the Beretta would be a much more familiar weapon.
September 17, 2007, 01:31 PM
Not a big fan of 9mm, but I would feel well armed with either. Between the two I'd go with the Glock 17. 2 more rounds per mag and more durable.
September 17, 2007, 01:38 PM
I would choose the Glock. But I'm strongly biased:D I love my Glock 17 and can shoot it well enough and I know mine's reliable.
September 17, 2007, 02:31 PM
Nothing says "SHTF weapon" better than a Glock. Even moreso a Glock 17.
You can repair a Glock 17 with a rusty nail and parts scavenged from almost any other Glock.
Glock is also the most corrosion proof pistol available.
My 'fan' gun is a Glock 17L longslide. Shoots amazingly well out to 100 yards with Winchester 147 grain SXT's.
Sounds like too big of a gun? It's the same size and weight as a Ruger Mark 2 4-5/8" .22lr. (OK, it's a little thicker)
September 17, 2007, 03:16 PM
Glock 17 would be my choice as a sidearm.
If SHTF... I would definately want a long gun as my primary.
September 17, 2007, 04:14 PM
Both are fine weapons......
But for a SHTF scenario there really is no contest
Very few moving parts
Lots of them out there in the hands of police, etc
In fact....the G19 has been called the AK of the hangun world because they are in use all over the world
September 21, 2007, 01:12 AM
Beretta with Hogue finger groove grips. Not for concealed, but great for the range, HD, or SD.
September 21, 2007, 02:00 AM
Help me understand. If its a real SHTF situation you're not gonna be worried about concealment. So why on earth would you want a handgun? Give me an AR or an AK thank you.
September 21, 2007, 02:31 AM
I own a G34 and a 92fs. The SHTF qualities of both guns are excellent. Its going to come down to preference and which one shoots better for you.
A few factual items that do favor the Glocks, night sights are both cheaper and easier to get for them compared to the 92fs, and all glocks (excluding the baby glocks ) have a light rail, where as only the M9A1 Beretta's have rails, and those are a lot more expensive over the base 92fs.
The Beretta's do have one factual item in their favor. You can get 18 round mags that sit flush (the mec's), or 20 rounders that barely stick out (maybe 1/2 an inch).
Beyond that, shoot em both and buy which ever one you like the most.
September 21, 2007, 03:09 AM
I own both and I shoot the Glock more often than my Beretta.
I think the Glock gets better groups too, but every firearm is different so there may be 200 other posts on here that state the Beretta is better.
Just chose what ever you you want, really I would suggest which ever one you get more trigger time on.
September 21, 2007, 07:24 AM
Glock would be my first choice if shtf over anything else. Even if you had others up there I am sure Glock would take the poll over. Even if you do not like them, you can not go wrong with them.
September 21, 2007, 07:48 AM
Neither, Sig 226.
September 21, 2007, 09:05 AM
Beretta...Simply put, I shoot one better than the G17. Would not be unhappy with either.
September 21, 2007, 09:31 AM
Between the subject pistols, it becomes more than a matter of preference, it's more about logistics. With the millions of Glocks in police and civilian hands, parts and ammunition would be more readily available than those for the Beretta. That is reason alone, regardless of preference, to choose the Glock over any other pistol. Gotta keep in mind, this is secondary to a good rifle.
September 21, 2007, 11:01 AM
GLOCK by a mile.
Cheap factory high cap mags.
Holsters are everywhere.
September 21, 2007, 03:36 PM
I recently spent a week at Gunsite and payed close attention to the firearms used. It was a Veterans course so the were 9 Berettas and, if I remember right, 8 Glocks (various models). 7 of the 9 Berettas broke and had to be repaired by the gunsmith. None of the Glocks broke, none needed any service, and none had any type of failure. Also, several of us went through the course, approximately 1000 rounds, without cleaning the Glocks.
However, the top shooter was using an Air Force issued M9.... with a level 2 retention holster. He was good...
September 22, 2007, 01:04 AM
Of the two... Glock 17.
Personally, I'd go with a Sig P226. Why? Because if the fecal matter strikes the electro-mechanical cooling device, I want a pistol that doubles as a club.
Hmm... Maybe I need a Walker Colt for that. Or a Desert Eagle. I suspect the latter are more effective as clubs, anyway. :D
September 22, 2007, 01:13 AM
I don't really care for glocks, but I loathe the beretta 92.
September 22, 2007, 02:30 AM
I'm not terribly fond of Glocks, though they have the good points going for them as noted above.
I voted the Beretta. I love the DA/SA, and I like being able to look at the hammer. Don't ask me why, just do.
September 22, 2007, 09:34 AM
Help me understand. If its a real SHTF situation you're not gonna be worried about concealment. So why on earth would you want a handgun? Give me an AR or an AK thank you.martial law is declared and the national guard is confiscating weapons (similar to katrina). in that case it might be good to have a lightweight, concealable, inexpensive firearm.
Black Adder LXX
September 22, 2007, 05:52 PM
September 23, 2007, 07:25 PM
Glock, simple to use, ultra reliable, very accurate, parts are easy to get, (if they are ever needed), anyone can work on one, mags are everywhere. U.S. Military is preparing to lose the 9mm and go back to the .45 or so I hear and read, because of the lack of power from the 9mm.
September 23, 2007, 07:40 PM
September 23, 2007, 07:42 PM
The Glock 17 has less parts, it carries three more rounds and it's practically impossible to destroy.
The Beretta will take some abuse and keep on working, just not as much as the Glock.
Availability for mags and parts is about the same and accuracy wise they're about the same.
So out of those two I'd pick the Glock.
September 23, 2007, 11:37 PM
Glock for sure. Goes bang every time.
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