I finally own an SKS!!


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kingpin008
September 16, 2007, 06:10 PM
Just got back from my FIRST EVER gunshow (in Howard County, MD) and I have to say - it was a LOT of fun. Went with my fiancee and some friends, good times were had.

I came away with an unissued Yugo 59/66 SKS from Century Arms. Total cost to me was $283 out the door, which is acceptable in my eyes. A little more than I was hoping to pay, but still within the range I was thinking. And it's nice. Oh, is it nice. Very clean, virtually no cosmoline, and a nice shiny bolt and chamber. Rifling looks good too. Nice wood. All-in-all, very satisfying.

Now, a quick question. How in blazes do I get the bayonet extended, and how do I get the front grenade sights to lay back down? I was showing my new purchase off to my dad (who was very impressed, even if he is somewhat non-gunny) and I managed to flip up the front sight and now I can't make it go down! :o:o

Thanks!!

(And I know, this thread is useless without pics. Trust me, they're coming! I'm very proud of my new rifle, of course I'm going to show it off!)

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Ohio Rifleman
September 16, 2007, 06:13 PM
Congrats! The Yugo M59/66 was my very first gun, and I still have it. Great rifle, though mine wasn't in quite the pristine condition you got yours for.

Anyway, as for the bayonet, you just flip it up, and when it's about level with the barrel, you pull the whole thing up a little, and then push it the rest of the way until the bayonet is parallel with the barrel. A small part should latch to another part sticking out of the barrel. I don't know how well I described that...

As for the grenade sights, I think it just takes some elbow grease to get them back down, but I wouldn't swear to it. Don't do anything until someone more knowledgeable comes along. Wouldn't want to break your new rifle.

Cannonball888
September 16, 2007, 06:16 PM
You have to fire a grenade to get it to go down. Just kidding. I have no idea. I just bought a russian sks off of gunbroker.com. It will be my first SKS too :D

Geno
September 16, 2007, 06:18 PM
Congrats.

To release the bayonet, pull the base shroud toward you and drop the bayonet. Fold the bayonet down and forward to the barrel. It will latch in. Then, to release it while locked open, extend the shroud forward toward the muzzle to release and fold the bayonet closed. WATCH THE FINGERS!!!

The grenade sight requires that you push the button (that is locked on an angle) down, move the botton to the left and stand upward. Now the sight will be able to raise up. It "locks" in place, but not solidly. To fold it, simply strike it lightly from front, toward the rear, and it should drop down. Reverse the button process after folding the sight, move the button back to the right, thus locking the sight back down.

Hope I made that clear.

Macgille
September 16, 2007, 06:19 PM
with the bayonet folded grasp the bayonet handle and pull toward the rear of the gun. then swing the bayonet down and forward until it is parallel to the barrel. It should latch in the extended position. I don't remember how to lower the grenade sight since I cut mine off along with the bayonet mount and the muzzle brake.:cool:

Mojo-jo-jo
September 16, 2007, 06:48 PM
Congrats on your purchase! You'll love it.

See the photos for answers to your questions. It is important to note that the gas cutoff "button" must be in the "off" position to stow the grenade sight, then it must be rotated to "on" to lock the stowed sight in position.

Sorry about bad lighting, was doing it in a hurry.

Mojo-jo-jo
September 16, 2007, 07:03 PM
Also, check out the site below. It will give you an idea when yours was made. I don't think it's updated anymore, but its the best info I have found for date info on these rifles

http://yugosks.net/Survey%20Results.htm

nwilliams
September 16, 2007, 07:08 PM
Congrats on the new gun!

$283 is a bit steep but if you like the gun and its what you really want then cost isn't what matters. Besides the way things are going in a few years you'll probably be luck to find one under $300, seems like most surplus guns only go up in cost over time.

Have fun and stock-up on ammo you'll probably put lots of rounds through it:D

kingpin008
September 16, 2007, 07:28 PM
Many, many thanks for all the replies! I do realize that the price was a little high, but for what I got I'm more than happy. I also appreciate such quick (and helpful) answers - I think I have it figured out now!

And no worries, I plan on picking up some ammo as soon as I can! I cannot WAIT to try this thing out.

Ohio Rifleman
September 16, 2007, 07:47 PM
While you're out buying ammo, you might want to get yourself some stripper clips too. They make loading a lot easier and quicker.

Oh, and don't use aftermarket magazines for the SKS. With very few exceptions, they suck. At least, in my experience.

kingpin008
September 16, 2007, 07:55 PM
One step ahead of ya. Bought a pack of 20 while I was at the show. I'm not bothering with the whole detachable-mag nonsense... I never did see the point of it, and I personally think it's kinda...well, silly. If I need detachable mags, I'll just have to buy myself an AK. :D

(no offense to any detachable-mag SKS enthusiasts out there - just not my thing. :))

XD-40 Shooter
September 16, 2007, 08:22 PM
I bought a Yugo 59/66 SKS a year ago, in excellent condition, for $150.:D:p Anyhow, they are really fun, durable, robust rifles. Its one of the best purchases I have made. You can still get a case of Wolf ammo for under $200, but not for long, as the prices are rising.

Arkie
September 16, 2007, 08:26 PM
Man, you are going to have fuuun with the SKS. I love to shoot mine.

chris in va
September 16, 2007, 08:34 PM
A couple things.

Your SKS may look clean, but it's imperative you take the bolt out and make sure there's no cosmo inside the firing pin channel. Not a hard task to do, simply pound out the pin holding the firing pin in place on the bolt and it slides out.

Also I recommend the Tech Sights for your SKS. I had the Wilsons but the peep was too far forward for my liking.

Mine didn't like the Wolf hollowpoint ammo. Stick with the FMJ stuff.

You can make the gun a single shot by pushing the grenade launcher button over to the right. It disables the gas system. You'll just have to rack the bolt every time.

Enjoy!

kingpin008
September 16, 2007, 08:51 PM
XD - Yea, yea. I am in MD, so everything's a little more spendy here when it comes to guns.

Arkie - Yea, I think this is one of my better purchases so far. I haven't even really explored it yet, and I already love it.

Chris - I'll most definetly be field stripping my new toy before bringing it to the range. I've heard stories about what cosmo in the wrong places can do, and I'm not interested in that sorta situation at all.

I'm just too tired to mess with it now, and I haven't convinced myself that I'm not gonna break anything yet. You know how it is - the new gun gets home, and you don't want to screw with it too much for fear of breaking something, heh.

esmith
September 16, 2007, 08:56 PM
Whoa, $300 for an sks???? My friend got a accurate good looking sks for 110. Id better hope that is the most accurate, smoothest, best looking sks on the market. Oh well, at least you got a new gun.

Novus Collectus
September 16, 2007, 08:59 PM
Wow, I bought a great condition Yugo 59/66 SKS at a Silverado gun show in MD about four years ago for about $80.......but if I saw one at a Silverado gun show in the same shape today for what you paid, I would not be too surprised.
As someone said, they are only going to go up in value and in MD always figure the purchase and sale price is higher in this state than most places in the country.

I do suggest you get a C&R license though. They are very good in MD and you can order C&R handguns from out of state delivered to your address without having to deal with the MD dealer markup, transfer fees and the seven day wait for handguns bought within MD.
You get discounts or cheaper prices on C&R rifles too.

kingpin008
September 16, 2007, 09:06 PM
Esmith - No, $280 for an SKS. :rolleyes: And honestly, for MD that's not too bad. I'm extremely happy with it, and that's all I care about.

Novus - Yea. From what I hear, four or five years ago they were much cheaper pretty much everywhere. I was hoping to pay less, but I've sort of quietly been checking out what SKS's are going for in different areas, and it wasn't out of line with most of what I'd seen price-wise.

Average Joe
September 16, 2007, 09:07 PM
Nice rifles. I have three. Yugo, Chinese, and a Russian...good shooters. Make sure the firing pin is free floating, other wise, you may have a 10 round machine gun...

kingpin008
September 16, 2007, 09:23 PM
Definetly. I'm no stranger to the stories about what happens when their firing pins are gummed up...:what:

kennedy
September 16, 2007, 09:36 PM
The one thing I learned about the sks` I have owned is NOT to modifiy them in any way, they were made to shoot as is. I tryed a 20 rd mag, could not get it to fit and feed, next tried mounting a scope, did not work either, evertime I cleaned it, had to take the scope off and lost zero. enjoy as is.

FieroCDSP
September 16, 2007, 09:39 PM
Did you get the accessories with it? The cleaning kit and all that fits in the hole in the back? The surplus one I got was soaked in cosmo, but didn't have the cleaning kit, but it was only a hundred bucks and had some ruskiey (or someone's) name on the bayonet. If anyone you know asks why the gas valve has to be shut off (the up position) to get the grenade sight up, explain that to fire an grenade, they used rifle blanks in the chamber. If the gas valve were open, the grenade wouldn't have enough go to get very far, eating up the energy in the action.


This is especially important if you take to reloading for it and don't want to look for your brass all over BFE. Turning off the gas valve makes it bolt-action, and gives you a bit more range to boot.

+1 on the firing pin. Tear that thing down and scrub it, polish it, and give it an extremely light oiling to keep corrosion at bay. After that, if you notice it sticking a bit a few hundred rounds later, spray some bore-cleaning spray in there to get the gunk out. But you HAVE to tear it down completely at least once to convince yourself you got all the cosmo out.

Oh yeah. The easiest ameteur way to get the through-pin out of the firing pin block is to drill a large enough hole for it in a piece of 2x4, get a proper size punch, and whack away in a considerate manner. Some of those, especially the ones that weren't cleaned, are exceptionally hard to extract.

Have fun with your rifle. They're a hoot. :)

Novus Collectus
September 16, 2007, 09:42 PM
I have a fixed 20 round Chinese mag in my Yugo. At first it jammed on the 18th round, but for some reason after just two shooting session I have not had a single jam since and I have fired probably a thousand or two rounds out of it since.

As far as the scope mounts go, they have imprved in the recent years.

MudPuppy
September 16, 2007, 09:53 PM
First gunshow and finally got a rifle you've been wanting--sounds like a good day.

(Don't listen to folks that got "a great deal and paid such and such. Important thing is you're happy as a clam--I'll tell you this for sure, the true value of those SKS rifles is a sight more than what you've paid for it.)

Have fun!

kingpin008
September 16, 2007, 09:54 PM
Kennedy - I'll be leaving this rifle as-is. The most I might do is add an aftermarket Mojo sight to it sometime down the line, but that's not for sure yet - wanna see how it does by itself first.

Fiero - Nope, no cleaning kit. That's ok though, I can pick one up at my local shop, or at another show if I really want one. I've got enough cleaning supplies on hand to take care of it in the meantime. I will have to buy myself a punch set and brass hammer though. I saw plenty of both at the show today, but like a dummy I didn't pick up either. Ah well.

kingpin008
September 16, 2007, 09:58 PM
Mudpuppy - Tell me about it. Someone's always gonna have a better deal on a newer rifle, with a better action, in better condition. Doesn't bother me a bit - this one is mine, and I love it. I did pay a fair bit, but I was expecting to. They're not near as plentiful as they used to be. Such is life.

I expect to get a lot of use out of this gun, when I get it cleaned up the rest of the way and on the range. I hope that if/when I have kids, I'll still have it and be able to pass it along.

tinygnat219
September 16, 2007, 10:02 PM
Kingpin88,

Congrats on the new rifle. I used to have one of those, but sold it after frustrated attempts to get the gas system to work correctly. However, this was when I first got into milsurps, and my knowledge has expanded 1000 fold (easy to do when starting with nothing!)

283? I don't think that's too high for an unissued one these days. They have dried up from the shows out here in NOVA for the most part. I sold my first one 2.5 years ago for $250.00, and it wasn't in mint shape. Then again, I picked one up with a slight rust problem for 60 bucks recently too. Had to completely replace the gas tube on on it. Sold it for 140.00. As you can see, prices vary for them, and since you are in the merry land of mary, prices tend to be higher. Regardless, if you are happy with it, that's all that really matters.

Some tips:

Detail strip this puppy and get all that nasty cosmoline out of it. Take it out of the stock and put it in a flower trough of mineral spirits and just run a paintbrush over everything. Mineral Spirits works wonders to get rid of this stuff.

For some good reference information, check this site out:
http://www.surplusrifle.com/sks/index.asp

It's got some EXCELLENT references.

Enjoy, and good shooting!

Novus Collectus
September 16, 2007, 10:03 PM
I'll tell you this for sure, the true value of those SKS rifles is a sight more than what you've paid for itVery true. One thing about the SKS you bought Kinpin008, it is still worth more in quality of manufacture and personal value than you paid for it. Just like a $300 K31 with a crappy wood stock would be, it is still worth it!!!!
The Yugos arre very well made using a very hardy design. Look at it this way, a new commercially made Yugo made new recently, but sold used would cost you much more.

RockyMtnTactical
September 16, 2007, 10:09 PM
I really like the SKS. They are great rifles.

Bartkowski
September 16, 2007, 10:12 PM
Whoa, $300 for an sks???? My friend got a accurate good looking sks for 110. Id better hope that is the most accurate, smoothest, best looking sks on the market. Oh well, at least you got a new gun.

Ya, $110 for the gun, cleaned from cosmo, an original sling, oil and cleaning can, ammo pouches and some ammo. Shoots around 3 inches are 50yards when I am just pulling them off rather quickly. I got it from a friend so he cut me a deal, anyway you should have a great time with the gun. Let us know how it shoots.

kingpin008
September 16, 2007, 10:13 PM
Tinygnat - Thanks! The guy I bought it from had four sitting side by side on his table, and I just picked the one with the best wood and action. I had a friend there who has an SKS, and he gave me a few tips on what to look for. Tried to talk the guy down to $220, but he didn't bite, heh. No matter.

Thanks for the link - I've seen it before, but kinda forgot about it. Been browsing since I got home. Very good info.

Novus - I agree. It's crazy - I've had it about half a day, but I already LOVE the thing. It's beautiful. Definetly worth the money paid. From what I've heard, Yugo's are widely known for being one of the better variants. As far as I've read/been told, the biggest difference is the lack of the chromed barrel, which doesn't matter that much to me. And damn is it sturdy. I was carrying it upstairs to put it away, and I couldn't get over how..comfortable it felt. Not too heavy, just sort of..solid. Easy to have confidence in a gun like that.

Mastiff4570
September 16, 2007, 10:16 PM
yeah my friend baught a really great one a few years ago for like 100 bucks the same one froma dealer now in good condition that need cleaned is at the least 200 so people realize how awesome they really are i am looking to get one and put a folding stock on it

Scott7891
September 17, 2007, 06:39 PM
good for you on that SKS, I was at the show too. Got myself a Hakim for cheap!

Bazooka Joe71
September 17, 2007, 07:00 PM
Congrats, and welcome to the club.:D

(And I know, this thread is useless without pics. Trust me, they're coming! I'm very proud of my new rifle, of course I'm going to show it off!)

You said it yourself...We'll take a range report as well.:)

Noxx
September 17, 2007, 07:07 PM
Make sure the firing pin is free floating, other wise, you may have a 10 round machine gun...

My first SKS taught me this lesson in short order only a couple of months ago.

I wouldn't listen to any naysaying about the price you paid, SKS's are all over creation pricewise, esp depending on where you're buying. I paid $250 for a "like new" Russian with very nice wood, and immediately had people telling me how I had been taken.... dude, it's weekend money, it's not as if you paid $500 for a shot-out Izzy Mosin.

Gun's a hoot, enjoy the heck out of it.

kingpin008
September 17, 2007, 07:30 PM
Scott - Oh yeah? Small world, huh? I was really pleased that the show turned out to actually be a good time, rather than a let-down. I'd heard so much about how most shows suck now, but I couldn't have asked for a better experience.

I don't think I've ever seen a Hakim - I've heard of them, but definetly not familiar with them. Where do you shoot? I still haven't been able to get out and find the few outdoor ranges near me (I'm in Columbia). I've heard about the Hap Baker range, and the one behind the dump in Marriottsville, and the Gun Club that's supposedly out that way too. Maybe we can met up and do some shooting sometime!

Bazooka - I know, I PROMISE they're coming! The better half has the camera, and she's out w/ her folks. I swear! :)

Noxx - Oh, trust me - I'm scrubbing it down like crazy before I go out and put the first rounds through it. I just got back from Dick's, where I finally got a gun vise (made by MTM, I hope I got a good one) and a new cleaning rod/patches/BIG bottle 'o Hoppes/.30 cal brush. I did need a .30 cal brush, right? Sometimes I get that stuff twisted around. Either way, no slam-fires for me!

And I'm not sweating the comments on price - if that's all they've got to say, then good for them. I paid what I paid, because I could pay it. I'm not about to get ripped off - as far as I'm concerned I got my money's worth.

rde
September 17, 2007, 11:43 PM
The SKS is a good choice..especially if you get to choose the one you really want from a selection of them. I have paid a little more for some firearms than some other people have managed to pay for essentially the same thing...except for the very important fact that I bought MINE...MINE have been worth a little more (obviously :) )

Mojo-jo-jo
September 17, 2007, 11:53 PM
Hey guys, cut Kingpin some slack on the price! Notice he's from "Merry Land" (in his words). A semi-auto anything is expensive there!

Richard47
September 18, 2007, 12:06 AM
When you figure the price of ammo, travel, time sighting in and shopping, a few extra bucks over internet prices is worth it, unless you are an expert on the rifle. One bad purchase and you've eaten up the savings on quite a few future purchases.

Spend your time shooting instead of shopping.

kingpin008
September 18, 2007, 12:37 AM
Rde - I agree. I've wanted one for a long time, just never had the chance to find one I wanted, and to get to a range where I can use it. I shoot at an indoor pistol-only range, and haven't yet found where the local outdoor ranges are. That will be changing very, very soon. :D

And you're right - I feel much better having been able to hand-pick the rifle I wanted out of the bunch. Out of the four or five he had on the table, this one was the cleanest, with the best wood and brightest metal. I'm suprised it wasn't gone by the time I made the circuit of all the tables and got back to buy it. I only saw maybe 3 other SKS's for sale at the entire show, and none were as nice as the ones the dealer I bought from was offering.

Mojo - Hah! Indeed. People can say whatever they want, I got what I wanted at a price I'm ok with. That's the bottom line. I will admit, most gunny-stuff is more spendy here, but what do you expect from a state that takes it's cues from Massachussetts, Cali, Illinois, and is the state that Sarah Brady calls home? It's tough, but we do what we can. :p

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