Remington model 30
wingnutx
July 8, 2003, 08:15 PM
I inherited what I finally identified as a Remington model 30 bolt action. I can't find much of any info on these on the web, and was wondering what they go for on average.
Anyone have one of these, or know anything about them?
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redneck
July 8, 2003, 09:02 PM
Don't know if you've seen this :
http://www.remington.com/aboutus/history/m30.htm
or this: http://www.remington.com/aboutus/history/m30express.htm
Not much but maybe helpful.
nextjoe
July 8, 2003, 09:12 PM
The Remington Model 30 was a sporting rifle made on the same action as the military 1917 Enfield rifles. It's a good, strong, serviceable rifle with controlled round feeding. The Model 30 was basically the last of the really nice rifles Remington made before they started cheapening their product line.
If it's in good shape and unaltered, it will have some collector value, but not so much that you should refrain from shooting it. There are some rare variations that are worth more, but they don't really have the fanatical collector base like the Pre-'64 Winchester Model 70.
Without seeing it and knowing more details, it's impossible to tell you what it's worth.... Probably somewhere between $150 and $800, depending on what exactly it is and what shape it's in.
Check out Frank DeHaas' book "Bolt Action Rifles" for a detailed write-up.
Best,
Joe
dfariswheel
July 8, 2003, 09:28 PM
The history of the Remington Model 30, starts in the early 1900's with the British P13 rifle.
This was an experimental rifle that was being looked at as a replacement for the Lee Enfield rifle.
The P13 was based on the Mauser rifles and was chambered in an odd .276 round. The rifle had serious ammunition related problems with over-heating after very few rounds, and terrible erosion of the bore.
When WWI started, the possibility of changing to a new rifle AND a new round was impossible, so the rifle was re-worked to handle the standard British .303 round. This was known as the P14 rifle.
Since the British couldn't come close to making enough Lee Enfield's, much less the P14, they came to America for production.
The firms of Winchester, Remington, and Eddystone were contracted to build P14 rifles and bayonets.
Since attempting to field two different rifles was a nightmare, the British decided to use the P14 as a sniper rifle, and retain the Lee Enfield as the battle rifle.
SInce the American companies wildly exceeded the British needs of P14's for sniper use, they were on the virge of canceling production when the US entered the war.
Since the American arsenals at Springfield and Rock Island couldn't begin to meet the demand for 1903 rifles, the rifle was re-worked again to handle the American 30/06 round and the rifles were known as the US Model of 1917, also as the American Enfield.
Winchester, Remington, and Eddystone, which was taken over by Remington, turned out huge numbers of 1917's, and it was actually America's most-used rifle in combat. Sgt. York actually used a 1917, not a 1093.
When the war ended, Remington had two plants full of equipment, and tons of 1917 parts, so they decided to make a sporter version of the 1917.
This was the Remington Model 30.
The Model 30 used the basic 1917 receiver and bolt, with the rear sight "ears" removed, and the magazine was modified to eliminate the "Hump" at the front. The bolt retained the odd "dog leg" bolt handle of the P14/1917.
There were three basic Model 30's, the 30A a 22" rifle, and a 30R 20" carbine made from 1921 to 1940.
The Model 30S had a 24" barrel and a Lyman receiver sight, made from 1930 to 1940.
These rifles and the military P14 and 1917 rifles were noted for being very strong, and were long time favorites of Magnum cartridge rifle builders.
The Remington Model 30's were very high quality rifles.
John Ross
July 9, 2003, 11:19 AM
FWIW I consider the Enfield to be the best basis for a custom African-caliber rifle and the 30 or 30S to be the best of the Enfields.
I buy these guns when I see them for $300-$400 and sell the stocks and barrels to Gun Parts (Numrich) for a few dollars.
If you want a normal-caliber gun there are more modern ones you can buy for the same money (used) that will be more accurate/powerful/flat-shooting and more suited to scoping than a stock Rem. 30.
JR
John Ross
July 9, 2003, 11:33 AM
FWIW I consider the Enfield to be the best basis for a custom African-caliber rifle and the 30 or 30S to be the best of the Enfields.
I buy these guns when I see them for $300-$400 and sell the stocks and barrels to Gun Parts (Numrich) for a few dollars.
If you want a normal-caliber gun there are more modern ones you can buy for the same money (used) that will be more accurate/powerful/flat-shooting and more suited to scoping than a stock Rem. 30.
JR
wingnutx
July 10, 2003, 02:21 PM
Thanks everyone!
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