[redneck2]

OK, so a few months ago the legislature OK'd pistol calibers in rifles for deer, but supposedly outlawed bottle neck rounds. Just read the new regs today and .35 Rem and .357 Herrett are OK to use. From what I read, other bottleneck rounds are OK too in handguns only.

Originally anything over a given maximum length were to be outlawed, but evidentally that was dropped.

[WuzYoungOnceToo]

OK, so a few months ago the legislature OK'd pistol calibers in rifles for deer...
Great. How long before your local Cx4 Storm owners are out pretending they're Colonial warriors, and the deer are Cylons in disguise? ;)

[kludge]

WasYoungOnceToo: 9mm is not legal. :)

Redneck2: Bottleneck cartridges are not stipulated, though I don't know of any that fit into the rules, except the 44-40, but I'd rather use the .45 Colt +P or .44 Mag than the 44-40.

(Edit- the 38-40 is also a bottleneck)

35 Remington has case length of 1.92" = Not Legal in a Rifle.
357 Herrett has a case length of 1.74" = Not Legal in a Rifle.

.460 S&W is also not legal in a rifle, even though it is a pistol cartridge; the maximum length rule is in there.

Rule for Pistol Cartirges in a Rifle

Rifles with pistol cartridges that fire a bullet of .357-inch diameter or larger; have a minimum case length of 1.16 inches; and have a maximum case length of 1.625 inches are legal to use only during the deer firearms season. Some cartridges legal for deer hunting include the 357 Magnum, 38-40 Winchester, 41 Magnum, 41 Special, 44 Magnum, 44 Special, 44-40 Winchester, 45 Colt, 454 Casull, 475 Linebaugh, 480 Ruger, 50 Action Express, and 500 S&W.

Rule for Handguns (including rifle calibers in a handgun)

Handguns, other than muzzleloading, must have a barrel at least four inches long and must fire a bullet of .243-inch diameter or larger. The handgun cartridge case, without the bullet, must be at least 1.16 inches long. Full metal-jacketed bullets are not permitted. Handguns are not permitted on any military areas.

Some types of handgun cartridges legal for deer hunting include 357 Magnum, 41 Magnum, 44 Magnum, 44 Special, 45 Colt, 45 Long Colt, 45 Winchester Magnum, 35 Remington and 357 Herrett.

Some illegal handgun cartridges for deer hunting are 38 Special, 38 Smith and Wesson, 38 Colt New Police, 38/200, 38 Long Colt, 38 Super, 38 ACP, 38 Colt Auto, 45 ACP, 45 Automatic and 45 Auto Rim. All 25/20, 32/20 and 30 carbine ammunition is prohibited also.

Muzzleloading handguns are allowed. The muzzleloading handgun must be single shot, .50 caliber or larger, loaded with bullets at least .44 caliber and have a barrel at least 12 inches long, measured from the base of the breech plug excluding tangs and other projections to the end of the barrel including the muzzle crown.

[redneck2]

Ok, so they're still legal in a pistol but not a rifle. Kinda grandfathered in the old stuff.

[MCgunner]

I don't know, I guess I'd have to just resort to my hawkin in Indiana. I have a .357 carbine, but I think I'd rather hunt with the hawkin up there.

[WuzYoungOnceToo]

WasYoungOnceToo: 9mm is not legal.
The Cx4 comes in .40 S&W and .45 ACP as well.

[Joe Meyer]

Those are illegal, too! At least the .45 acp is.

Some illegal handgun cartridges for deer hunting are 38 Special, 38 Smith and Wesson, 38 Colt New Police, 38/200, 38 Long Colt, 38 Super, 38 ACP, 38 Colt Auto, 45 ACP, 45 Automatic and 45 Auto Rim.

[WuzYoungOnceToo]

Yeah, I missed the "The handgun cartridge case, without the bullet, must be at least 1.16 inches long" part.

[TehK1w1]

So you should be able to use a .45-70, since it meets the minimum-length requirement and Magnum research makes a revolver in that caliber :p

[kludge]

Handgun, yes; Rifle, no.

[Boscoe6]

An officer friend of mine had a DNR officer tell him that the reason the rifle calibers are limited to handguns is because of the "fair chase" idea and has nothing to do with safety. What government wisdom!