.45 ACP "Viper" Shotshells


September 18, 2007, 02:09 PM
I've been thinking of getting a few
.45 ACP Shotshells

SHopping Comparisonn of what I've found

CCI Shotshells
Plastic Capsule on end of brass case
claimed to have a better pattern than
crimped rounds
117 gr. of #9 Lead shot approx. 210 pellets
$10.95 per 10 rds. or almost $ 1.10 each

Reed's Ammunition & Research
offers crimped - it is crimped with five
notches and the remaining brass ? crimp is
a curved ogive and may function in a
Semi-AUto, depends on individual guns.
150 gr #7 1/2 Shot approx. 110 count of
of lightly nickel plated pellets claimed to
be less damaging to rifling.
25 rounds - $ 12.95 or $ 0.52 each
R.A.R. also offers
150 gr. #12 chilled shot 25 rounds at the same price.

I have both of R.A.R. offerings in stock
I'll get some of the CCI stuff and go shoot
some pie plates at 3 feet 6 feet & keep going
at 3 foot intervals and check/report the

ONe man in Oregon should have considered shot shells
but instead musta said something like "Hey Bubba,
hold my beer..."



Any one with experience shooting these shot shells in
a revolver or Semi-Auto?

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September 18, 2007, 02:30 PM
The CCI capsule shot-shells will pattern better.

During WWII the military loaded both star-crimped and roll-crimped .45 ACP shot-shells for survival packs.
I have made then from turned down .308 Win. cases, & loaded them with both an over-shot card wad & roll crimp, as well as a star crimp without a card wad.
They don't pattern neatly as well as the CCI shot-capsules.

As for functioning, either one may or may not function a 1911.
It all depends on the individual gun.

Neither lead or nickle plated shot is going to do the slightest damage to the rifling, although they will both lead the bore badly.

The CCI capsules protect to bore from leading to a greater extent.

For snake killing, #12 shot seems to me to work much better then any larger shot size. They just go limp when hit with #12, while they often take two or three hits with #9 to kill them really dead.

Be interesting to see your test results.


September 18, 2007, 02:34 PM
Do NOT use them in revolvers. I tried them in my Blackhawk with .45acp cylinder and they lock up the cylinder every time. I have heard reports from others regards this problem too. I'd love to know why this happens though.

September 18, 2007, 02:49 PM
CYlinder lockup - probably buildup between the
cylinder and forcing cone

My fatherr was a Radioman/Navigator in the Army
AIr COrps in WWII. He is a member of the Hump
Pilots & Aircrew Association. They flew from
eastern India north over the eastern Himilayas
flying in vital war supplies into China. He mentionned
they issued shotshells for their 1911s as part of the
survavl kit. Not many who crashed or parachuted into
the jungles made it back. The routes was nicknamed
the Trail of ALuminum.

Guess I am off topic. But SHot SHells would be helpful
trying to survive in that situation.

September 18, 2007, 08:37 PM
I have used the 9mm CCI's in my Ruger P95 and theywork fine. They will also cycle the Ruger.

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