[Phydeaux642]

Any interest in a thread discussing all things snub related? I know that is a broad topic and I know that there are several threads dedicated to specific models (642/442, M&P 340, steel snubbies, etc.) but I keep finding my self more enamored of the breed as a whole. I have a 642 and a 442 on the way and I am finding myself becoming more and more interested in acquiring different makes and models. I did a quick search and really didn't find a thread that was dedicated to all snubs. If I missed one I do apologize.

I would mainly be interested in hearing about the favorite snubs of other THR members and why they are your favorites. It wouldn't matter if they were brand new or a classic, steel, alloy or some other exotic material. I am, after all, really just trying to get a wish list for myself going. LOL. :D

Anyway, I think I will check in over at the 642 Club and see what's going on.

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[Aquaman]

I don't know how practical it would be but it sure looks like a BMF...

[ak-kev]

Ive got a recent attraction to Colt snubbies. They are just amazing and feel so good in my hand. Here are a few


1967 blued Colt Cobra and a 1976 Nickel Cobra
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/james807/100_3370.jpg


1973 Colt Detective Special
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/james807/100_3357.jpg


1998 Colt Magnum Carry
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/james807/100_3325.jpg

[Nathanael_Greene]

I find myself drawn to 5-shot .38 special revolvers; I just think they're cute. That's why I bought this Model 37 Airweight yesterday (that, plus I got an offer I couldn't refuse)...

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=64397&d=1190515891

[Phydeaux642]

ak-kev

Those are some mighty fine looking Colts. I really like that '67 Cobra. And, the wish list gets longer....

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[ak-kev]

Thanks pal!! Ive just recently discovered them too. There's a couple more I want also, like the Agent and Lawman. I guess it just takes time. Kevin.

[pogo2]

Two snubbies that I have used for carry - a Colt Detective Special .38 and a S&W model 66 in .357 magnum.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/pogo2/ColtDetSpec15.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/pogo2/SW6607-1.jpg

[ak-kev]

I knew you would be along to show us that wonderful Detective Special Pogo2. I just love that pic!! Kevin.

[Landlocked Pirate]

I don't know if my 3" S&W Model 65 would be considered a true snub or not but it makes a great carry gun. Regardless, my backup Taurus 650 2" definitely does qualify and I actually like it better than my son's S&W model 640 (2 1/8"). Also, my wife has a S&W 642 and my other son has a Ruger SP-101 so we're pretty well snubbied up.

[GUNKWAZY]

If Colt's & Smiths can live in harmony in one thread,
then, here's a couple snub related pictures...

http://members.aol.com/toykwazy/3shortkingcobras.jpg

http://members.aol.com/toykwazy/dbacknpython.jpg

http://members.aol.com/toykwazy/66n649.jpg

http://members.aol.com/toykwazy/3shortsmiths.jpg

Jeff (GUNKWAZY)

[m.pieroni]

GUNKWAZY-

That Diamondback is spectacular!

[Cocked & Locked]

I like snubs and tend to lean in the S&W direction...

66-no dash, 2.5" 357 mag
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL523/3082611/6486421/259407257.jpg


19-4, 2.5" 357 mag (recently sold to a forum member)
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL523/3082611/6486421/245223623.jpg


10-5, 2" 38 spl
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL523/3082611/6486421/227550376.jpg


12-2, 2" 38 spl
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL523/3082611/6486421/131626989.jpg


60-1, 1 7/8" 38 spl
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL523/3082611/6486409/276454435.jpg


36-no dash, 3" 38 spl
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL523/3082611/6486409/178952637.jpg


49-no dash, 1 7/8" 38 spl
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL523/3082611/6486409/178952625.jpg


642-1, 1 7/8" 38 spl
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL523/3082611/6486409/176636797.jpg


40-no dash, 1 7/8" 38 spl
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL523/3082611/6486409/175612000.jpg


36-no dash, 1 7/8" 38 spl
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL523/3082611/6486409/80439769.jpg


27-2, 3 1/2" 357 mag
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL523/3082611/6259637/145236217.jpg


629-5, 2 1/2" 44 mag
http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL523/3082611/6259637/145236207.jpg

http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL523/3082611/6259637/145236204.jpg

[Phydeaux642]

Gee whiz guys, is it possible to lust after a classic Colt?

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[ak-kev]

I think so, I have been now for a month:)

[cmidkiff]

This is my latest addition... only snubby, only colt. Figured I could kill 2 with 1, so to speak :)

http://www.midkiff.us/ColtDS.jpg

[10-Ring]

Me, I really like the Colt Detective Special -- & if I find one in good shape, she's mine! But my first love in snubbies are the j-frames :D

[lindermant]

my first snubby, a Colt Agent

http://mysite.verizon.net/tlinderman/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/colt_agent_2.jpg

[ak-kev]

Lindermant..........Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, your killing me with that pic!!!!:) She is so unbelieveably beautiful!!

[lindermant]

thanks ak-kev!

I started out looking for a Colt Detective Special, but when I saw this old girl in the case (in very rough shape when I acquired her) I just couldn't pass it up at the asking price. Sent her off to Dave Sams for a little tuning and now she's just about perfect (still trying to find that just right size of grips).

[Texas Colt]

lindermant, I gotta agree with ak-kev. That's a great looking Agent. Did you have it refinished? If so, what finish is it?

[ak-kev]

Yea Tom, I've been following your other thread. Your Agent and your pictures heavily influenced my recent buying spree of these little jewels!! Congrats on a super looking classic (that I hope to one day have in my collection as well)! Do you have any plans on aquiring more of these Colt D-frames? Kevin.

[Stoney]

Dick Specials, got em
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/pstone001/100_1292.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/pstone001/100_1360.jpg

Big honking mags,got em
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/pstone001/100_2296.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/pstone001/100_1425.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/pstone001/100_1419.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/pstone001/100_1222.jpg

J frames, got em.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/pstone001/100_1274.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/pstone001/100_2279.jpg
K frames, Heck ya.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/pstone001/100_2207.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c119/pstone001/100_2157.jpg

[Phydeaux642]

Man, you guys are killing me. Those are some amazing looking snubbies. I went to one of the local gun/pawn shops today after seeing these pics to see what they had available in the classic "pocket protectors". The only thing there was a Model 36 S&W that has seen quite a lot of carry time for $299. He did tell me that he had a 6" Colt Python that he thought had never been fired getting ready to come out of pawn, but, my interests are leaning heavily to the shorter brethren.

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[mavracer]

well if smiths and colts can live together maybe smiths and taurus can too.

[lindermant]

lindermant, I gotta agree with ak-kev. That's a great looking Agent. Did you have it refinished? If so, what finish is it?

Texas Colt, the barrel/cylinder/small parts were parkerized; frame was anodized. Dave did a great job of making it all match. Here's a before pic:

http://mysite.verizon.net/tlinderman/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/dsc02207.jpg

[Texas Colt]

lindermant, thanks for the info. Dave did a great job on that Agent.

[DrLaw]

36 w/square butt under the grip there
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb53/DrLaw45/Model36.jpg

[ak-kev]

You guys are posting some awesome pictures!! I like this thread! Kevin.

[GUNKWAZY]

http://members.aol.com/toykwazy/66nib.jpg

Jeff (GUNKWAZY)

[GUNKWAZY]

The good end of a 3 inch model 66.:D

http://members.aol.com/toykwazy/sites.jpg

Jeff (GUNKWAZY)

[ak-kev]

Very nice picture Jeff!!!

[Phydeaux642]

+1 on the great pictures. These snubbies are "functional art" as far as I'm concerned - fun to shoot and fun to look at.

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"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"

[ak-kev]

This was a great idea for a thread!! Thanks! I got my Buffalo Bore bullets yesterday, so I plan on taking some pics of the business end of the Colts. Kevin.

[Phydeaux642]

I just missed a NIB Smith & Wesson Model 38 from 1983.:banghead: The guy wanted $375, which I didn't think was too bad. Oh well, the search continues.

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[Texas Colt]

Kevin, let us know how that Buffalo Bore ammo works out. We need a range report!

[ak-kev]

WoW Tex, Im not qualified for that!:) All I can do is set up milk jugs and blast em:eek: I can maybe bring a chrono and clock em if you like too. Thats the extent of it though:) Im just a simple man;):p

[Texas Colt]

It sounds like you use the same high tech methods I do... chrongraph and milk jugs :D

I am curious to see if the velocity matches the advertised specs. The other thing is whether or not their bullets actually expand out of a 2" barrel - You know, use the MMJ test (Multiple Milk Jug) to recover the slug.

[Texas Colt]

I just realized I hadn't posted my own Colt snubs to this thread. Only two right now, but that will change... soon!

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/Colt%20Revolvers/ColtSnubs2.jpg

[lindermant]

Texas Colt, that little Cobra is sweet!

[Texas Colt]

Thanks! That little Cobra is my constant companion.

[ak-kev]

Tex...........you are hereby banned from showing ANY pictures of your Lawman , Period!!!! :) No sir.........no more!:):) Its just not fair:uhoh:

[mnw42]

I bought it in May and I've carried it ever since.

The grips are courtesy of 45shooter. I traded him my wood ones.

http://images.filecloud.com/596054/cobra-lh-m.jpg

[jibjab]

I'm not sure if mine is short enough to get in :confused: but I won't be affended if I get cut.
64627
S&W 696

[blackwind Jeff]

If someone is new to snubs, is that person a "snoob"?

[ak-kev]

Tex, in your (now banned:neener:) picture of your snubbies, the Lawman doesnt look that much bigger than your Cobra. Is this an illusion? Kevin.

[ldp4570]

Well I guess I gotta show mine.
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/S3000025.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/S3000081.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/S3000056.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/ColtDS2ndGen38spl.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/SW686CS-13in357mag.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/SW64038spl.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/SW6243in44spl.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/SW66O.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/SW603in38spl.jpg

[ldp4570]

Well I guess I gotta show mine.
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/S3000082.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/S3000056.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/ColtDS2ndGen38spl.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/SW686CS-13in357mag.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/SW64038spl.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/SW6243in44spl.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/SW66O.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/SW603in38spl.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/GUNS/S3000013.jpg
http://http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s127/ldp4570/S3000025.jpg

[Texas Colt]

Kevin,

The Lawman is much bigger than the Cobra, and much heavier being all steel. The picture is kind of deceiving.

Remember, the Lawman is simply a Trooper MK III with a 2" barrel and fixed sights. It's a Detective Special on steroids! :D

[Phydeaux642]

I will be picking up my new 442 tomorrow.:D When I get the new grip sets that I ordered for both my 642 and the new 442, I will post some pics. Then my quest for the classics begins in earnest.

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[Texas Colt]

Couldn't resist :D

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/Colt%20Revolvers/Lawman2.jpg

[Legionnaire]

Well, I'll post a Ruger. This here's my .357 SP101. Bought it second hand at my local dealer's for $250 plus tax. Added the clip draw. Changed the springs to lighten the trigger a touch, and scrounged up a spurless hammer on the web. I swap the hammers depending on how I'm feeling. It's my only snubbie, but quickly became a favorite carry gun.

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=53395&d=1171590044

[Texas Colt]

Very nice Legionnaire. And nice to have Ruger represented. Those SP101s are built like tanks!

[Phydeaux642]

Legionnaire

Great choice for a snubbie. An SP101 is on my (very) extensive list of items that I would like to have. Ah, too many guns, not enough money.:(

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[Sly Dog]

My favorite carry gun is a snubby, a pre-lock 342PD:


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1105714/342PDa.jpg


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1105714/342PDb.jpg

[ak-kev]

Tex.....................you dog:D:D Your killing me!! That is a beautiful picture! I am so envious!! Kevin.

[Phydeaux642]

Pre-lock Smiths. Ah, the good ol' days.

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[DAdams]

Two in my stable and no classics yet.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/dmadams/P5210023.jpg
M&P 340 with S&W CT 405s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/dmadams/P5150002.jpg
The ubiquitous 642 with 405s and sheathed in a Mika Roundcut.

[Phydeaux642]

DAdams

When you get right down to it, I'm beginning to think all of these snubbies are classics.:D

[ak-kev]

My Badger grips just came in so I tried them on my Detective Special. Wow!! What a difference they make. I'll probably have to order another set for the Cobra. Man, this is getting expensive! I found another DS at a local shop, but I havnt gone to look at it. Anyway, here are the new awesome Badger Boot grips:):)


http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/james807/100_3382.jpg


http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/james807/100_3384.jpg


This picture shows the Buffalo Bore 158 grainers!!

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/james807/100_3383.jpg

[lindermant]

love those badger grips ak-kev!

[Phydeaux642]

If I were going to start looking for a nice Colt snubbie chambered in .38/.357, in what direction would you point me? Is there a better value associated with certain models? Which models do you like and why? I would be more intersted in something that is a good shooter and not just a good looker because I really enjoy shooting the snubbies. There have been a lot of great looking Colt pics posted and I must admit that I am getting the classic Colt itch.

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[BullfrogKen]

Phydeaux,

Colt Detective Specials are everywhere. You just have to pay attention. They were only the gun that was synonymous with plain clothes police work for about 4 decades. They're still out there. Not until Smith and Wesson began seriously competing with Colt on contracts for that market did the scene change.


Shooters - many folks swear that the earlier, unshrouded D.S. had a nicer action and trigger than the newer model. And the front sight on the older models are easier to pick up. The newer D.S. models have longer ejector rods. Its six of one, half dozen of another.


I've become quite enamoured of Colt revolvers. There's something intangible about one. Maybe its the "backwards rotation", and the "backwards cylinder latch", but there's something about a Colt that S&W doesn't have. Its taken time for me to appreciate it. Its something internal. Its not nostalgia, or mystical . . . its practical. Colt revolvers have earned my respect. And given a choice, I'll choose a D.S. or Cobra in .38 Special over the new unobtanium .357 S&W wonder-pocket-bling bling any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

[GUNKWAZY]

http://members.aol.com/toykwazy/snakeeyesbarrel.jpg

Jeff (GUNKWAZY)

[ak-kev]

Im not really qualified to give advice, but Ill tell you my impressions. Ive always been a Colt man, but not really revolvers, just 1911's. My father bought me my first revolver in 1988, a King Cobra, and the Pyhton just sort of fell in my lap. I bought the Magnumcarry in 1998 because it was touted as being the worlds smallesr, lightest 6-shot .357. So the others are the ones Ive been actively seeking. The D-Frames. The 2 Cobras I have are much lighter than the Detective Special. You might consider that if your going to be carring it. If your going to be shooting it alot than maybe the all steel Detective Special is more suited for that (I dont have any proof of this, but it just seems logical). They all seem to be equally scarce here in central Florida. I have bought every one I have seen, and I have 3. Anyway, in my opinion, you cant go wrong with any of em. I plan on buying more if I can find them.

[Old Fuff]

ak-kev:

My Badger grips just came in so I tried them on my Detective Special. Wow!! What a difference they make. I'll probably have to order another set for the Cobra.

Actually if you check those Badger stocks agains the ones on your Cobra you'll find that they are Agent length, and shorter then the stock ones on your other D-frames. There is nothing wrong with this, but you might want to notice, as putting a similar pair of stocks on your Cobra will in effect make it an Agent. :cool:

[jrfoxx]

here's my favoite snub-nose.Its ver small an light, which makes itgreat for all day conceald carry.Easy to hide, and you dont feel its weight at all, no matter where you carry it, or for how long.Plenty accurate with practice (snubs are definitely tricky to learn to shoot well consisantly, thats for sure).I'm plenty comfortable/confident with 5 rounds of peer Gold Dot Short Barrel 135gr 38 spl +p.I dont think one would be undergunned at all with good good ammo (only drawback is capacity, I'll admit that, but thats the trade off for concealablity and light weight, so...).Also, recoil is a little brisk, but not hard to control or uncomfortale at all.I routinely fire 100 to 200 rounds straight with it when I go out for practice.Really, a very nice gun for carry, and can be had for about $300 new, so I think they are a great gun, at a very good price,
S&W m63 "airweight" .38spl
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b289/jrfoxx/m637.jpg

[Texas Colt]

ak-kev, those Badger grips look awesome on your DS! I'll definitely be ordering a set of those when I get a DS. I'm watching several DS's on Gunbroker because there just aren't any to be found locally.

Your pics are great... Are you trying to pay me back for the Lawman pics???

[ak-kev]

Hey Tex. Well your the one who sold me on the Badger boot grips. They are just so nice, and make the gun so much more concealable. So.....you cant find any DS around there huh? I called and found another one here, but I havent gone to look at it. She said 350 over the phone, but said it was in rough shape. Ill prolly pass on it. Good luck on your quest. Do you have a dealer that helps you with gunbroker.com, or are you a FFL? I had my FFL years ago, but gave it up when Clinton got into office. I kinda regret it now.

Im definately no picture master...for sure. I belong to several watch forums, and take alot of pics, so Im used to it, but no master. And yes, im still waiting to find a perfect nickel Lawman.

[Old Fuff]

I called and found another one here, but I havent gone to look at it. She said 350 over the phone, but said it was in rough shape.

I don't think so. There is one on Gunbroker that's LNIB for $400.00, and the seller (On Target) is Old Fuff approved. :cool:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=81377479

[ak-kev]

Thanks for the heads up!! I dont have a FFL I can lean on though.:(

[Old Fuff]

I think that Gunbroker as well as the Shotgun News will provide you with a list of FFl's in your area that handle their kind of sales.

I would also think that if you've bought several Colts over-the-counter from a particular dealer they might handle the paperwork for a reasonable fee, just to keep a regular, repeat customer happy. In this case they don't have to package and ship the gun (the seller has a fixed $25.00 charge for this). On your end they simply received the gun with no hassle.

[Texas Colt]

Uh oh... kev and I are now watching the same gun on Gunbroker :eek:

Actually, it's one of several that I'm watching.

[Old Fuff]

Tex...

You don't want THAT ONE!!!

It's too new, and besides you can get the... ah.... rough one for ONLY $350.00... Such a deal... :evil: :evil: :evil: :D

[Texas Colt]

Oh goodie... kev gets the nice one and I get the rough one. There's something really twisted in that Old Fuff! :evil:

[ak-kev]

You wont be bidding against me Tex. Ill have to look for a FFL first. I carried mine tonight to Ruby Tuesday's. Man is it nice and comfy with those small Badger boot grips. That was a nice addition. Thanks!! Kevin.

[Texas Colt]

Thanks kev. I still haven't decided whether I want blued or nickel anyway.

[ak-kev]

I would prefer the blue since I already have the nickel, but, the way they are around here, Ill buy anything that comes available as long as it passes the functional tests. There's just not much to choose from. Again.......good luck!

[Old Fuff]

There's something really twisted in that Old Fuff!

Me... ?? Twisted??? :confused: :confused:

All I was trying too do was save you some money... :D

[boomstik45]

Does 3" count as snubby? If so, I just joined the snubby club with a 3" 686-5. It's a polished satin finish 7-shooter that I got from a buddy for just $325. I still can't believe I got this "looks almost brand new" piece for that low. I cannot WAIT to shoot it!

[cameron.personal]

Colt Detective's Special with Badger Rosewood Boot Grips
Bought for $200 cash on a Saturday night while sitting in a car.... A true "Saturday Night Special"


http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb25/tacticallyspeaking/Pistols/Colts/Colt%20Detective%20Special/DicksSpecial05c.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb25/tacticallyspeaking/Pistols/Colts/Colt%20Detective%20Special/DicksSpecial04c.jpg

Cameron

[ak-kev]

That is beautiful Cameron!!! I was impressed when I first saw your thread 'Saturday night special'. That thing just screams quality. One question though, did you put the Colt medalians in the Badger grips? That looks great! Please show us how you did it. Kevin.

[cameron.personal]

The guy at Badger will do it for you $10 a side, he seems like a nice guy too.

Cameron

[Texas Colt]

Cameron, that is a beauty!!! I'll give you $250 for it :D

[Phydeaux642]

I think I need to move to a different location. I have yet to run across a good deal like some of you guys seem to be running across. That sure is a good looking DS cameron.

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[Old Fuff]

I haven't run into deals, I have to seek them out, and yes - they are around.

Finding a mint, classic revolver priced at $200.00 is unusual, and usually involves a seller that need quick cash to pay unexpected bills. Therefore it is advisable to have some cash available on short notice. Otherwise someone else is likely to get the buy before you do.

You also have to know what you're dealing with, what's valuable and what isn't. On more then one occasion I've bought something that I really didn't want or need because the price was lowball and I knew I could sell or trade it for something I did want. At that point I would have what I was looking for at a cost equal to what I paid for the other gun. Sort of a round about way, but it works.

Also remember that a perfect finish doesn't make a perfect shooter. Most real buys I've come across had some cosmetic wear, but worked (and shot) just fine.

[Phydeaux642]

Where I live you just don't find many good old revolvers in the shops. I think people here tend to hold on to them for many different reasons. Of course, I can find used autos everywhere, as I would expect to. I do ask the guys at the shops about getting old wheelies but they tell me they just don't see that many. The guys that I know that shoot regularly lean heavily to the autos so nothing on that front. And, I agree, a great looking gun doesn't make a great shooter. I would rather have a great shooter with a little character (read that as "a great shooter with a worn finish"). In about a month I am on vacation, so, I think I'll drive around the state and see what I can find.

And, while I am thinking about it, what are some of your experiences with Guns America and Gunbroker? I have looked but I have yet to buy.

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[Texas Colt]

Phydeaux, I've had pretty good luck with Gunbroker and Auctionarms. You have to be careful and patient, but you can land some good deals.

I'm watching about 6 different Detective Specials right now on Gunbroker. The key to success is to set yourself a high limit before you bid and not get caught up in bidding fever.

[ironvic]

Hi guys:

I just joined-had to after seeing this thread!

I have owned quite a few snubbies--all of 'em S&Ws. I've had mostly J-Frames in stainless, both off-the-shelf and Performance Center models and one Airweight Centennial. Still, I like a beefier frame, with a little weight on it for .357 Magnum. My latest, purchased new earlier this summer, is a 2 1/2" S&W Model 686 Plus (7 round). This little powerhouse has a trigger action that's slicker than snot and she puts 'em where the front sight says they ought to go.

I prefer the looks of a blued gun and think the S&W Model 19 in 2 1/2" is just about the handsomest snubbie made. I carry in Washington State and we live near salt water, so it's "practical stainless" when I carry the 686 Plus.

I have one Colt revolver, but at 6", it's way beyond the snubbie catagory. It's a Trooper MK-III and is a really accurate and slick six-shooter. It always comes along whenever I bring the 'smith to the range.

Ironvic

[Texas Colt]

ironvic, welcome to THR!

Now that you've joined us, the next thing you need to do is get some pictures posted so we can admire your S&W's.

[BullfrogKen]

I've bought over half a dozen guns off of internet classified ads and auction sites. So set a price in mind for what you want to pay for it, and go after what you want until it reaches your limit. The nice thing about this internet thing is you get access to items outside your local market. We'll have to thank Al Gore.

I've bought a few off here, too.

[Phydeaux642]

ironvic

Welcome to THR. I'm with Texas Colt - I would like to see some pics. I haven't posted pics yet, but I will when the grips I have ordered get to me.

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[ak-kev]

Yes, I agree, pictures are a must!!:)

[Phydeaux642]

Well, I found a used nickel Colt Detective Special at a LGS today for $399. I haven't purchased it yet because I need some info. What do I look for when looking at old Colt revolvers? I read a thread on THR not too long ago on this subject, but I can't find it now. Help.

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[Texas Colt]

Phydeaux, probably the most important thing is checking the timing. Thumb cock the revolver slowly and make sure the bolt engages the notch in the cylinder. Check each chamber that way. If the bolt doesn't lock into place, there is a problem with the timing.

[Old Fuff]

Phydeaux642:

The link you need is:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=1430

Also use the search feature, and look for posts and threads on Colt, made by our fellow member "dfariswheel". Lots and lots of good information. ;)

[Phydeaux642]

Texas Colt and Old Fuff

Thanks, guys. That was what I was looking for. At $399 the price doesn't seem bad after looking at some gun seller sites, I just need to check it out now.

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[Phydeaux642]

Can I get an opinion from you guys that own Colts? I went back today and looked closer at the Colt Detective Special I mentioned earlier. It locks up tight and everything lines up as it should. It doesn't have the original grips but I don't know if that is a big deal. The finish is nickel which looks pretty good except for two or three small places on the cylinder that look to me like something ate into the finish or something scraped it. They are asking $399 for the gun. Good deal, bad deal? I see prices on the internet that are all over the place, so, I'm not sure.

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[Haycreek]

Try "the snubnose files" website

[BullfrogKen]

Its scraped? So what? Its a tool. If its in good shape, get it. You can find perfect examples, but you'll have to pay more for it, and if its perfect, you might feel leery shooting it for fear of diminishing its value. That's not a terrible price on one. You've said they're hard to find in your area.

They're aren't going to be any new ones produced. And the guys who own one don't generally get rid of them.

[Old Fuff]

This like-new-in-box blued Detective Special is on www.gunbroker.com starting at $400.00

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=81377479

I recently purchased an older "pencil barrel" with about 85% original blue but excellent otherwise for $275.00. At $399.00 the one you are looking at would seem overpriced by at least $100.00. But then it sometimes matters on where you are located. I agree that excluding perfect collector guns the original stocks don't matter that much.

[Phydeaux642]

The scrape, or whatever it is, doesn't bother me. Neither do the grips. I just included that info to see if it would affect would people thought about the price. I have no interest in owning a firearm that I wouldn't shoot or be afraid to shoot for fear of hurting the value. My days of collecting anything just to have it are long gone, thankfully.

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[Old Fuff]

The scrape, or whatever it is, doesn't bother me. Neither do the grips. I just included that info to see if it would affect would people thought about the price. I have no interest in owning a firearm that I wouldn't shoot or be afraid to shoot for fear of hurting the value.

I agree. But given a choice I would pay $400 for a LNIB revolver rather the one dollar less for one with obvious mileage on it. I still think the seller is about $100.00 too high, but again local market circumstances may justify the price. The more important consideration is mechanical condition.

[ak-kev]

Well, both of my Cobra's were listed at 400.00 and both were LNIB. My DS was listed at 365.00 and had some wear on it. And these are the ONLY 3 Ive seen for sale in a month. The gunbroker idea is great for actually finding one, but the dealers around here want 35.00 to do a transfer, and most will not do it if there is something comparable in their store. Then you have to add 25 shipping. So the cost starts to rise quickly, and the great deal turns into, an ok, deal. Thats the way I see it anyway. Until I find a dealer who will do it more resonable, I cant justify Gunbroker:(

[Texas Colt]

I agree with Old Fuff. I would rather spend a little extra for one that is like new.

I just found a DS that I'm working a deal on. It's a LNIB 4th generation with the factory case and paperwork. It will be a week or so until it arrives, so that gives me time to order a set of Badger grips :D I'll post pics when it arrives.

[Old Fuff]

I agree with Old Fuff. I would rather spend a little extra for one that is like new.

Especially if the difference is only one dollar... :scrutiny:

Like new gun = $400.00
Somewhat used one = $399.00
Difference = $1.00

I don't look for safe queens so much as users, but on the other hand I'm not interested in paying "new gun" prices for used stuff. :)

My cup of tea is one that's slightly worn, out of time, and up for sale cheap because of the lockwork and cosmetic issues. Within an hour or less, the timing will be fixed, and for practical matters the finish doesn't mean zip. :cool:

[ak-kev]

I called and found another one here, but I havent gone to look at it. She said 350 over the phone, but said it was in rough shape.


I went to look at it and its another nickel 1973!! She said it was rough, but thats because its has goo all over it, and didnt take the time to clean it. I cleaned a spot with my shirt and its looks great! The question is....do I need another nickel '73??:banghead:

[ak-kev]

I just found a DS that I'm working a deal on. It's a LNIB 4th generation with the factory case and paperwork. It will be a week or so until it arrives, so that gives me time to order a set of Badger grips I'll post pics when it arrives.

Congrats....I cant wait to see pics! Where did you find it? Kevin.

[Texas Colt]

Kevin,

That nickel Colt sounds like it could be really nice. Why can't I find deals like that? :banghead:

I would buy it while you have the opportunity. You could always sell it or trade it later, most likely for a profit.

I found the DS on Gunbroker. I'm paying a little more than I wanted to, but these things are an investment. It's better to pay too much and get what you really want than to pay too little and be disappointed.

[ak-kev]

I'm paying a little more than I wanted to

Maybe......but your getting one with original box and papers. That drives the price up. I havent come across one like that yet. The DS I bought had a Colt box, but its not original to that era:( So your thinking next week then? Whats the finish?

[Texas Colt]

Here's a picture from the seller...

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/Colt%20Revolvers/ColtDetSpl001.jpg

[ak-kev]

Thats very, very nice indeed!! Congrats!

[SJshooter]

I assume you all have seen this website: http://www.snubnose.info/

Here is my Chief's Special, born 1971:

http://bushnell.smugmug.com/photos/123405898-L.jpg

http://bushnell.smugmug.com/photos/123405909-L.jpg

http://bushnell.smugmug.com/photos/165415989-L.jpg

[Phydeaux642]

SJshooter

Very nice! I think I am probably going to skip the Colt DS that I found locally and look around on Gunbroker for something else. The dealer who has the Colt decided to raise the price of another gun I was looking at while it was still in my hand, so, I think he has lost my business from this point forward.

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[Texas Colt]

Super nice Smith SJ. Yep, I been on the snubnose website. It's got some interesting stuff on it.

[Lightsped]

I love snubs. Always have loved the look and feel of them. I have a couple, but only have good pics of this one. It is all Titanium.

http://www.neospeed.org/images7/mytaurusm85tifoil.jpg

[Texas Colt]

Nice Taurus Lightsped. How is that thing to shoot with defensive loads since it's all titanium and ported?

[Lightsped]

I really haven't fired it much. Its been at least four years since I fired the titanium M85. I also have a steel M85 that I have fired more, but still not alot. Both performed perfect when they were used. I'll try to get pics of the steel M85 soon.

I am predicting adding a S&W snub to the collection in the not too distant future.

Anyone else got any cool snub pics? All of my semiauto friends give me funny looks when I tell them how much I like snubs....

[Texas Colt]

My Colt Detective Special is being shipped today!!!

I called Jim Badger this afternoon and he is working on a set of rosewood boot grips for me. They will have silver medallions and will also be a bit narrower behind the trigger guard than his standard grip. He is a true craftsman and a great guy to deal with.

I feel like a kid waiting for Santa to arrive!!!

[ak-kev]

Congratulations Tex!! Im happy for ya:) I cant wait to see pics! My Badger boot grips came in today and just put them on the '67 Cobra!! Awesome!

[Texas Colt]

kev, that makes your second set of Badger grips, right? Pics, we need pics!!!

[ak-kev]

Yes Tex, this is my second set. The first was the walnut, and this one is the rose wood. I think it looks great, and man does it feel nice in a belly band or pocket.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/james807/100_3486.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/james807/100_3489.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/james807/100_3485.jpg

[Texas Colt]

Sweeeeet !!!

[ak-kev]

Hey guys, I just found a NIB Colt Cobra. This one is different than the 2 I have. Its blue, and has a shrouded barrel. It has the box, and all the silly papers. He wanted 600.00, but I offered him 500.00, and he called back 2 days later and said OK.:) He also said he has a 4in blue NIB Colt Python as well!! :banghead: He only wants 700.00-750.00 for it, so I dont know what to do. I want both now:banghead::banghead:

[Old Fuff]

When it rains, it poors... :D

(Pardon the pun - they both sound like neat guns. Check out the date of manufacturer, as older is often better).

[ak-kev]

I just went through this with the DS I found. He had the 4in nickel Python and he made me a good deal if I bought both. The only thing is, I bought the other Python as an investment. I've never desired to have a Python, but it sort of fell in my lap. This one is the same way. Do I need 2 to sit in the safe?? I dont know.......

[Texas Colt]

Do I need 2 to sit in the safe?? I dont know.......

Need? Maybe not. But even if a second Python is purchased simply as an investment, it is a very solid investment.

The same goes for the NIB Cobra. If nothing else, it's a solid investment.

[Phydeaux642]

I know this isn't a classic and it has that ugly little pimple on it, but it followed me home from the gun shop the other day. What was I supposed to do? I couldn't let it stay out in the weather.:D

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[Texas Colt]

Good dog Phydeaux. You did the right thing :D

[ak-kev]

Yes, I agree.....you did good!!

[ak-kev]

Need? Maybe not. But even if a second Python is purchased simply as an investment, it is a very solid investment.

The same goes for the NIB Cobra. If nothing else, it's a solid investment.
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I know Tex, I just have to justify spending the money. Im going to get the Cobra, but I just dont know about the Python. I prolly should because he's letting it go so reasonable.

[Texas Colt]

Well, my Colt Detective Special arrived today. Yee haw!!!!

It's a beauty. ILNIB. It has been fired, but hardly at all. A very light carbon ring around each chamber and a very light ring on the cylinder. I'll post pics when I get home.

[ak-kev]

Hurry Up!!!:d

[Texas Colt]

Having to work for another 4 hours is killing me!!!

[ak-kev]

Whats the finish on it? Blue?

[Texas Colt]

I finally got some pics taken and saved. This one is a 4th generation model that was made in the mid 90's. I'm still waiting for the Badger grips to arrive. I think it will look much better once the rosewood grips are on it.

Here's the long awaited Detective Special....

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/Colt%20Revolvers/DetectiveSpecialL1.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/Colt%20Revolvers/DetectiveSpecialR1.jpg

[Phydeaux642]

That's a good lookin' DS, Tex. I'm still looking for something like that in my neck of the woods, but I have decided to have patience and wait for the right one to came along. I sure hope I have better luck with the Colt than I did with my ex-wife.:D

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[kashton]

Here is my S&W 642 CT. I was shooting 5 rounds at a time with my laser yesterday at 30 feet -- and all 5 holes would disappear under a silver dollar.

http://www.hunt101.com/img/502451.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=502451&c=500&z=1)
http://www.hunt101.com/img/502452.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=502452&c=500&z=1)

[ak-kev]

I finally got some pics taken and saved. This one is a 4th generation model that was made in the mid 90's. I'm still waiting for the Badger grips to arrive. I think it will look much better once the rosewood grips are on it.

Here's the long awaited Detective Special....



That is beautiful Ed!! I love it. The Badgers will look so good on there too. You did well. Now...get to the range and start burning powder!!

[tipoc]

An old Cobra.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/cobra5.jpg

Alongside a couple of postwar friends.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/338s1.jpg

M624 .44 Spl. and M629.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/two44s2.jpg

tipoc

[Texas Colt]

Nice Smith kashton. Those laser grips look very compact. Sounds like it's great shooter too!

Kev, Thanks for the compliment. I loaded some ammo using 6.0 grains of Blue Dot over a 158 gr. Meister hard cast SWC. I hope to get some range time on Saturday (after spending time in the deer stand).

[Phydeaux642]

I thought that I would post a pic of my S&W 642 now that I've changed the grips and add another one with it along side my S&W 442. I really like the look of the wood grips.:D

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[ak-kev]

I agree with you Fi-do, the wood grips do look great!! You have a nice pair their dude!! Kevin.

[DAdams]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/dmadams/PA230003.jpg
Finally picked up a pair of Bianchi SS from CTD. 642-2 with 405CT and Mika Round Cut.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/dmadams/PA230008.jpg
.357 Speer Gold Dot 135 gr for short barrel at the range last week. 25 feet.
Smooth and amazingly mild.
M&P 340 with Hogue Monogrips.

[ironvic]

Here's my latest snubbie, a S&W 686 Plus, 2 1/2" barrel. You guys and your Colts--Aw man, I think I'm getting the bug! I've got a 6" Trooper MK III, boy I need a Colt snubbie as well--gotta hit the pawn shops...

ironvic

[ak-kev]

Thats a beautiful 686 ironvic!! What year is it? Kevin.

[jt1]

ironvic - very nice!

[collector14]

http://www.guncollectorsclub.com/images/cobras%20006.JPG

[Phydeaux642]

ak-kev Thanks. Now I have to see how the grips affect the shooting. Both sets feel real comfortable, though.

ironvic Real nice 686. And, I agree with you. After seeing pics like collector14's I'm feeling the need for a nice Colt snubbie.

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[fiVe]

Great pics of great revolvers.

[ak-kev]

Your right fiVe, this is a great thread! Thanks Phydeaux for starting it! I shot the Detective Special today and had the same great results. The 158gr LSWCHP were hitting POI at 15yards. For me.....thats incredible.

[Phydeaux642]

Happy to be of service. I just really like the snubbie platform and really enjoy seeing all of these fine examples. I have several bottomfeeders that I enjoy also, but if I had to have just one type of handgun it would be a snubbie.:D

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[ironvic]

AK, Phydeaux & JT: Thanks for the nice comments on my new snubbie. It's a 2007. I don't care for the lock, but it sure has a nice trigger pull on it. Much slicker than the one on my Trooper MK III and a lot of the other Smiths that have come my way over the years. It's a good little shooter.

The gun came with a Hogue Monogrip, but the butt was too long for stuffing in the pocket so I went with the Hogue Bantam in the picture. Still, if I had my druthers, I'd go with wood and am looking for something with handsome grain that fits the hand nicely.

Have a good one,

ironvic

[ak-kev]

Yea....back when I was younger (Im 38 now) I used to love the hogue rubber grips. But after years of carrying, I've realized in the past few years that wood is the way to go. It doesnt grab your shirt or pants pocket. Plus it adds so much to the look of the gun. Wood grips make the gun look classy to me. The last 2 I've bought have been the Badger grips. They are simply fantastic!

[Texas Colt]

Hey guys,

I finally got home from my business trip and picked up the Detective Special I bought on GunBroker last week. It cleaned up really nice. Badger rose wood grips have been ordered and should be here in a few days.

Since this picture was taken, I've already bobbed the hammer. I'm also thinking about having this gun hard chromed. What do y'all think about that idea?

Oh, and I only paid $295 for this gun :D

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/Colt%20Revolvers/DetSpclS26895Side.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/Colt%20Revolvers/DetSpclS26895R1.jpg

[ak-kev]

Well......you finally made it back stranger:D. Did you find any more great deals out there in New Orleans?? Show us what you bought. Do you have any pics of the bobbed hammer? I would love to see it. Did you do it yourself?

[Old Fuff]

Kind'a beat up aint it....?? :(

Don't know that I'd waste all that money on fancy stocks... :evil: :D

[Texas Colt]

Well, this isn't the greatest picture, but here's what the bobbed hammer looks like...

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/Colt%20Revolvers/DetSpclS26895Hammer.jpg

[Phydeaux642]

Texas Colt, you dog, that's just not right finding a good deal like that.:D I'm still waiting to run across my good deal. I like the bobbed hammer, nice job.

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[Texas Colt]

Kevin, I didn't find any more deals, but I did visit an antique store in the French Quarter that had a super nice Single Action Army in 32-20. It was made in 1894. It had three grooves filed into the back strap. If only it could talk!!! The price... $3950! The same store also had some very nice 1873 and 1876 Winchesters!

On my way home, I stopped at a new Cabelas in Gonzales, Louisiana. Inside the store, sitting at a small table, were Dick and Mary Cabela!!! They were there for the grand opening and were signing autographs. The store wasn't busy, so I had a real nice conversation with both of them and got both of their autographs.

[Old Fuff]

You don't have to, but it is HIGHLY ADVISABLE to remove the single-action cocking notch on the hammer after bobbing off the spur. Some prefer to retain the single-action feature, but I don't. A mistake while trying to lower the hammer on a loaded chamber could cost you. :eek:

[Texas Colt]

Thanks for the advice Old Fuff. I kept the single action notch on my Cobra and will probably keep this one as well. The ONLY time I shoot it single action is on a private range. Any other time, the gun is fired double action.

The double action pull has been slicked up a little on both guns too, so it's super smooth.

[ak-kev]

Nice job Ed. That looks great! I didnt realize you had plans on doing that. The Badger grips should finish that beauty up perfectly!

[Old Fuff]

John (Fitz) Fitzgerald left the single action feature on his famous Fitzgerald Special's. But he also trained people to BE SURE THEY LET THE TRIGGER FOLLOW DOWN WHILE LOWERING THE HAMMER! That way the Colt positive hammer block would prevent an unintended discharge. They also checkered the top of what was left of the hammer. Even so, I know of several instances where someone had the hammer slip from under their thumb while de-cocking the gun, and the hammer fell before they could release the trigger.

In one case a bright(?) young officer got to explain to his Chief how the patrol car got an extra hole in the roof. :evil: :uhoh:

Anyway, I remove the single action whenever I bob a hammer spur, as I see no reason to practice single action shooting with such revolvers.

If you prefer to keep the single action a hammer shroud is a better option.

[Texas Colt]

Old Fuff, interesting that you mention checkering the hammer... I was just looking at some checkering files on Brownell's website. I have two guns with bobbed hammers, so I was thinking about trying my hand at checkering.

I bought a spare hammer for my Cobra, so I can "practice" on the extra hammer and keep the original hammer stock.

[Old Fuff]

The top of the hammer back of the firing pin is rounded, and you may find checkering has a bit of learning curve on rounded surfaces. By all means go ahead, but practice on a piece of scrap round stock, and when starting out a piece of hardwood dowel is O.K.

Colt checkered their pre-war hammers by stamping in the diamonds - a process called "coining." Hand checkering was done on special orders, but on a production basis it was out of the question.

[ruger357]

Have bought, sold and traded many. Detective spls, S&W alloy and steel, but I always keep my favorite in my nightstand. A S&W 36. Damn I wish I didn't trade in that nickel Det. Spl. A very very close second.

[Lightsped]

A pic I made at the range of my two Taurus snubs (steel version, and ported titanium version) and my friend's Charter Arms snub.....

http://www.neospeed.org/images7/shoot102707b.jpg

[Silvanus]

I just picked this up today. S&W M60 (and 66).

http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/11/50/35/28/sw_m6010.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=47&u=11503528)

http://i18.servimg.com/u/f18/11/50/35/28/ssuewe10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=50&u=11503528)

Anybody know if the 60 is +p rated?

[DAdams]

642-2 ready for the holiday.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/dmadams/PB010026.jpg

[Phydeaux642]

If I'm not mistaken, the Model 60 is .357/.38+p rated revolver. Nice looking revolvers, by the way.

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[Marshall]

S&W MODEL 60 .357 MAG

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/bunnfuzz/dcp_0559.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/bunnfuzz/dcp_0555.jpg

[Silvanus]

Thanks Phydeaux642. I have the .38 version but no case and handbook to look it up. I bought it used.

[Dr.Rob]

I only have one snubby, but to me it's the ultimate. Colt Magnum Carry, 125 gr Remintion SP factory loads, HKS speed loaders.

[ak-kev]

I only have one snubby, but to me it's the ultimate. Colt Magnum Carry.

You are correct sir!!!! Why did Colt stop making this Ultimate Revolver??:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

[Dr.Rob]

Colt did a lot of stupid things in that time frame.. I picked this one up 2nd hand after many years of searching... and paid only $425 for it.

[Texas Colt]

A Magnum Carry for only $425? You're killing me!!!!

That's a beauty Dr. Rob. The Magnum Carry is the best of the best.

[Phydeaux642]

Sylvanus I looked in the Standard Catalogue of Smith and Wesson and it looks like the only Model 60 that was rated for +P was the 3" full lugged barrel version. The Model 60s that are rated for .357/.38+P are the ones built on the J magnum frame. Hope this helps.

And, very nice Colt Dr. Rob.

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[Silvanus]

Yes it does, thank you :)

[rdrancher]

I was just re-reading this thread, and...

Tipoc, the word's escape me, so I'll just say beautiful.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/338s1.jpg

rd

[deanodog]

My only two snubs. Plain and simple model 60 and a model 30-1

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c375/deanodog/revolvers/000_0182.jpg


http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c375/deanodog/revolvers/000_0184.jpg

[Texas Colt]

Very nice Smiths deanodog. A friend of mine has a Model 60 just like yours. I will be doing some custom work on it this week, so I'll post a couple pics when the work is done.

[tipoc]

rdrancher,

Just some old beaters, that can still shoot.

tipoc

[Phydeaux642]

Well, I've been saving a little cash and have been looking to make another handgun purchase in the near future. I've been looking around my area for a classic snubbie and have found a couple of S&W Model 36s in nice condition, but I am really trying to hold out for a Colt. Out of the three Colts listed above, which one would you Colt guys take first? I figure that there is a greater number of Detective Specials out there to choose from, but would one model be that much more desirable than another? Is one more reliable than the others?

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"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"

[Texas Colt]

Hey Phydeaux,

All three are great, so it depends on your primary role for the gun.

Both the Cobra and the Agent have an alloy frame. The older 1st generation Cobra has a longer grip frame than the Agent. If you are looking at the later guns with the shrouded barrel, they all have the shorter grip frame. For front pants pocket carry, I recommend the Cobra or Agent. The only downside is that Colt recommends limited use of +P ammo in these guns.

Colt recommends inspection after every 1000 rounds of +P. Personally, I use +P ammo for carry, but practice with standard pressure ammo. I usually shoot one cylinder full of +P at the end of a range session.

The Detective Special is steel and therefore heavier, but it will stand up to more +P ammo. Colt recommends inspection after every 3000 rounds. The DS is, in my opinion, the greatest all-around snub.

They all have the same lockwork, so there is no difference in reliability. I would probably start with a Detective Special. You'll shoot it more.

I have two Dick Specials and one Cobra (looking at a second Cobra now). The Agent is next on my list. The bottom line is that you just have to save more money so you can have all three models :D

[BullfrogKen]

Phydeaux642,

Re-read through the thread; I touched on that question when you asked it earlier. Most guys who have an opinion swear that the 3rd generation Colt D frame (D.S. and Cobra) triggers aren't as nice as the previous designs. I think that the sights on the older models are easier to pick up because the front sight is taller. In reality it isn't really taller, the barrel is just skinnier.

ak-kev has a good picture (http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=3743975&postcount=3)showing the external differences between the two. The older model has the ejector rod exposed, while the newer model has the ejector rod shrouded. The newer models have a bit longer ejector rod than the first edition of these guns.

Do some google searching. You'll find lots of answers to your questions. You'll have to choose which is right for you. Would you rather have lighter weight for carry, or have it heavier to better absorb the recoil? I have both a steel D.S. and a lightweight Cobra. I don't prefer either one over the other; they are just different.

[Phydeaux642]

BullfrogKen - Rereading the thread is the reason I thought that I would try asking the question from a slightly different angle. I believe that you and ak-kev were the only two that gave me some ideas based on personal experience earlier (thanks, by the way). And, thanks to Texas Colt for the above info based on his experiences. I "googled" an article a while back by Clint Smith about the small Colts and it did have some good info, but it was another "I like them all scenario". Maybe it really is that easy. Maybe there is no "Glock vs. XD vs. M&P" type of discussion to be had. There have been a lot of really nice pics of Colt snubbies here but I didn't know if people were grabbing them up just because they are jumping in value so rapidly or because they really enjoy shooting and/or carrying them with no real concern about investment value. I was really hoping to get some more folks to tell me what they personally preferred and why.

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"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"

[ak-kev]

Hey Phydeaux, honestly you cant go wrong with any of them. I have yet to see an Agent in person. Most of the Agents I see on Gunbroker look horrible. There are some though that are blued like normal (instead of the..........anodized?? finish) that look spectacular. So really the later Cobras and all Agents are the same machine. So as long as I see Cobras, Im buying!! I tend to grab the Cobra's more to carry. They are so forgiving in a belly band or now my new Desantis Apache ankle rig thanks to Tex. They are so comfortable and just dissapear. But when I go to the range I always grab the DS:D My DS is in the worst shape of all of my D's, plus its all steal, so I dont mind shooting 100rds at each range session through her. She's just tough:D So.....if your only getting one, then you must decide what you'll be doing with it more....shooting or carrying. Cobra for carry, DS for shooting. But idealy, you should not limit yourself to just one.:D

[DAdams]

Apparently the later version of the shrouded DS weighs 21 ounces is that about right?

How much does the Cobra weigh?

Were they made unshrouded only?

FYI

There is a NIB Blue CDS for sale on GA for $600. Maybe a little high, but and unfortunately I would have to make it a SQ...... So tempting but I have other firearms fish to fry for now. ;)

[ak-kev]

No sir, I believe the unshrouded version ended in '72?? I could be wrong though. There are some here who know way more than I on this. The unshrouded version I have weighs 15oz, but the shrouded versions weigh 16oz. And you are correct, the DS is 21oz.

All 3 of my Cobras are absolutly perfect. I bought 2 without the box or docs for 400.00 OTD, and Ive bought one NIB with all papers for 500.00 OTD. So the 600.00 is a litle high. Kevin.

[tipoc]

The Detective Special was introduced in 1927, square butt later changed to round and unshrouded. The first issue lasted till 46. Second issue from 47 to 72 and was offered in a 3" barrel in addition to the standard 2". The third issue with the shrouded ejector rod and the shortened grip frame went from 72 till 86 or so.

The Cobra was the alloy framed version of the Detective Special. It appeared in 1950 and the first issue lasted till 72. It was offered with a 2", 3" and 4" barrrel. Second issue 73-81 had the shrouded ejector rod.

The Agent was identical to the Cobra except for the shorter grip frame, the only difference, aside from the ounce or so in weight. First issue 55-72. Second with shrouded ejector rod 73-86. As far as I know offered only with the 2" barrel.

All are good strong and useful guns. IMHO stronger than their S&W counterparts, which does not mean they can be abused. The lighter alloy frame bucks a bit more under recoil than the steel frame but with practice this can be worked with.

As with all guns you have to find the ammo they like.

The longer ejector rod allows for positive ejection of the cartridges. They have good sights, easy to see.

No one else can tell you how a gun will feel when you shoot it. Pick one and try it. If you don't like it sell it and try another, or keep them both. Buy one now, the other next year.

tipoc

[DAdams]

Thanks for the snubbie Colt edumation. Were as many Cobra manufactured as the steel version? Is the Cobra more rare and hence command more money.
Did the shrouded Cobra come in all three versions, blue, chrome and stainless?

Guees I need to go find a Colt Forum and get immersed so when I run into one I'll know what is in front of me.

[Old Fuff]

1. Detective Specials substantially outnumbered Cobras, and the survival rate was less so far as perfect finish was concerned. When you find a Cobra or Agent with little or no finish wear it's usually reflected in the price. However finish wear does not effect performance if everything else is right, and if you don't need or want a safe queen there are some good buys around.

2. Cobra and Agent revolvers came in blue or nickel, but not stainless.

[ak-kev]

For some reason I am seeing more Cobras than DS's. I know that doesnt corospond with actual production numbers, but thats what I've seen around here the last several months. There isa show next weekend, so I'll be looking yet again!

[collector14]

My latest addition...

http://www.guncollectorsclub.com/images/colt_python/python_2_1965_006.JPG

A 1965 Colt Python. I love revolvers and I love this gun.

[Phydeaux642]

My, my, my. That '65 Python sure is sweet.

And, thanks to everyone for all of the info earlier. That's kind of what I was looking for earlier in the thread.

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"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"

[tipoc]

www.coltforum.com

You can find some more here.

Up above RDrancher reposted a pic of mine which includes a Cobra from '51 IIRC. Despite the wear a good shooter.

tipoc

[tipoc]

Another pic of the Cobra, cuz why not. My bad, it's from 1954. The anodized frame has gone plum.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/cobra5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/cobra4.jpg

And at 15 yards, the flyers are mine. In other hands it could likely do better.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/tipoc/shub152.jpg

tipoc

[mic214]

Here are my snubby revolvers:

Colt Diamondback:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/mic214/Firearms/DSC_0323_edited.jpg

My 340PD:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/mic214/DSC_0338.jpg

My 3" M-36:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/mic214/Firearms/DSC_0321_edited.jpg

And these are my pair of 2-1/2" M-66's, my 3" M-65 and another shot of my M-36:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/mic214/Range%20Day%2009162007/DSC_0321.jpg

[Texas Colt]

That's a nice collection of snubs mic214. Especially the Diamondback.

tipoc, that Cobra is just oozing with character. I love it!

[Phydeaux642]

Here's a question for all of you guys that have and shoot the snubbie Colts. What ammo do you use? I know that many of the guys that shoot the Airweight j-frame Smiths prefer the Gold Dot 135gr .38 +P or the standard pressure Buffalo Bore. What is the type of ammo that you prefer for range time and for carry?

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"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"

[mnw42]

I have Buffalo Bore's standard pressure 158gr LSWC-HP loaded and normally some JHPs on the speed loader. The BB loads are gas checked so leading is kept to a minimum. Brassfetcher (http://www.brassfetcher.com/Buffalo%20Bore%20158gr%20(non%20+P)%20SWC-HC.html)has shot them and I'd say they would be effective.

[Texas Colt]

Here's another snubbie. This S&W model 60 (no dash) belongs to one of my coworkers. He asked me to do a little work on it, so now that it's finished, I thought I'd add it to the thread.

The action was smoothed and polished. A set of Wilson Combat springs installed. The trigger face was originally grooved, so it has been radiused and polished. The difference in the trigger feel is amazing. The bore and chambers were polished with JB's Bore Paste. The hammer was bobbed and bead blasted. Finally, the exterior was polished with Simichrome.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/LarrysSW8.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/LarrysSW3.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/LarrysSW6.jpg

[ak-kev]

Man, you do some good work!! You need to open your own business!!

[Texas Colt]

Thanks Kevin. I would like to do professional gunsmithing someday. Maybe as a retirement side line.

[ak-kev]

You really should pal. So you like the semichrome the best. I've always used Flitz, but was wondering if there were reasons to change.

[Texas Colt]

I've used both Simichrome and Flitz. Simichrome happens to be what I have on my bench right now. They both work great, although I think Simichrome is a slightly finer compound.

[SwampWolf]

Some responders on this thread seem to know a lot about Colt revolvers. My 1966 Cobra has fine cross hatch/checkering on each side of the top strap and I saw a shrouded variant that had the same type markings. Do all Cobras (Detective Specials) have this cross hatching or did Colt eliminate the process on later revolvers?

[lindermant]

Here's a question for all of you guys that have and shoot the snubbie Colts. What ammo do you use? I know that many of the guys that shoot the Airweight j-frame Smiths prefer the Gold Dot 135gr .38 +P or the standard pressure Buffalo Bore. What is the type of ammo that you prefer for range time and for carry?

Phydeaux, in my Colt Agent I use Winchester 130gr FMJ 38spcl (W-M value pack) for the range, and Hornady 125gr JHP XTP (non +P) for carry.

This is my first revolver, and freely admit that I don't know what I don't know. I'm still experimenting with carry ammo to see what she likes best, so take my answer with a grain of salt ;)

[Texas Colt]

SwampWolf, as far as I know, the only Colt snubbies that don't have the top strap serrations are the late model DS-II and the 357 Magnum Carry.

[Texas Colt]

Phydeaux, I use Speer Short Barrel Gold Dot HP +Ps in my Colts. Even my alloy framed Cobra. I practice with standard pressure reloads, but carry the +P ammo.

Colt says that the alloy framed guns should be inspected for frame stretch after every 1000 rounds of +P. At most, I shoot 20 rounds of +P per year through my Cobra. That means I'll need to get it inspected in about 45 years!

For carry ammo, shoot what works best. If that means +P in an alloy gun, just keep it to a reasonable amount.

[lindermant]

SwampWolf, my '85 Colt Agent has a plain top strap.

[Texas Colt]

Interesting... so the matte finished Agents (and maybe Commando Special too) didn't have the serrations. That would make sense since both guns were designed to be "entry level" guns without the fit and finish of the DS and Cobra.

[ak-kev]

Hey Ed, I used an old sock and some flitz this afternoon on my DS, and it really came out good. It was so bad when I got it, I had to resort to the dremel to polish it, but now, Im hitting it by hand and it sure looks purdy

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/james807/100_3357.jpg


I still want to try semichrome, or Mothers.

[Texas Colt]

Dang that's purty Kevin! It looks like new. I'm drooling again.

I just gotta get me a nickel plated BBQ snubbie... uh, besides my Lawman that is :rolleyes:

[ak-kev]

Im going to be hunting a Lawman hard Saturday!! The picture of yours has burned an image in my brain. I gotta get one. 4 days and counting....

[Lightsped]

TexasColt, that S&W is awesome! Nice work! Wow. I am certainly impressed.

[Texas Colt]

Thanks for the compliment Lightsped.

Kevin, good luck on your search. I'll be hitting the local show this weekend for either a nickel Cobra or a parkerized Agent - maybe both.

[Phydeaux642]

Thanks for all the ammo info guys.

I haven't had a lot of luck looking for a nice Colt snubbie in my neck-of-the-woods, so, I was almost on the brink of buying another 1911 since I have saved a little money to play with. Well, after going back and looking at the pics in this thread I've decided to hang tough and have been looking on Gunbroker in earnest. I've bid on two this week (not the high bidder, though) and will continue to do so until I bring one home.:D

Texas Colt, really nice job on the hammer bobbing. I know you bobbed the hammer on one of your recent Colt purchases, so, I have a question for you. Was that a common option that you could get from the factory?

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"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"

[Old Fuff]

Bobbing off a hammer spur and tuning the double-action has been an special order option at Colt since 1877 when they introduced their first D.A. revolvers. I believe they still do it today on customer's guns, (recent ones of course, not models from the 19th century). De-spurred hammers were also standard on their custom made Fitzgerald Specials starting during the 1930's.

However I wouldn't call the alteration "common," as orders were few and far between. But those that did order the modification were usually an interesting set of individuals - I wouldn't call them "common," either... :uhoh:

[collector14]

My latest Snubbie. I've been monitoring the auctions for just the right one for two years and the opportunity finally came! It's a 1965 2 1/2" Python with mother of pearl grips.

http://www.guncollectorsclub.com/images/colt_python/python_2_1965_006.JPG

[Texas Colt]

Now that's a beautiful snubbie collector14! I'd say your patience definitely paid off. Congratulations on an awesome Colt!

[collector14]

Thanks!

[bhp9mm]

smith 640 smith 15 and taurus 85.

[Texas Colt]

I should have two more snubbies on the way later this afternoon. I found a deal on a nickel Cobra and a blued Detective Special... from the same dealer.

Also, my set of special order Badger grips came in yesterday. Man are they nice! Rosewood with silver Colt medallions. They are also slightly narrower at the top than the standard configuration, making them even better for pocket carry. They will go on the nickel Cobra. I'll post pics when I get the guns in.

[ATW525]

Some of my snubs:

Smith & Wesson Model 442 and Model 638
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b372/lonelygunman/l_410c5b852079c8f8773393ba1d33debe.jpg

Airweight Bodyguard vs Airsoft Bodyguard trainer
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b372/lonelygunman/11-14-07_1734.jpg

Smith & Wesson Model 25 in .45 ACP
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b372/lonelygunman/25-14muzzle.jpg

[cyclist]

(slight meander in the topic)
I'm kind of liking those Badger grips. Which would fit a Colt Magnum Carry as they didn't list that model directly, would it be a D frame?

(done meandering, back on topic)
I'll try to post up a pic or three later today or tomorrow after I dig into the storage.

Some very nice stuff in this thread.

[cyclist]

His & Hers snubs:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/treebound/Target/DSCN1977.jpg

His: Colt Magnum Carry, stainless .357Mag
Hers: S&W Ladysmith, stainless model 60 .38Special
(got no idea about this dash or no dash stuff with the Smiths, guess I'm off to learn a bit)

[Texas Colt]

Nice pair of snubs cyclist. Just don't leave them together on that rug for too long... you might end up with a little NAA 22 :D

[cyclist]

Too late, meet little Davis ;)
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/treebound/Target/DSCN1983.jpg

He's only a little .22Mag, but he's got his mother's color in his grips.

Rumor has it he's going to have an adopted brother in the not too distant future if Uncle Thompson's stock sells.

[Texas Colt]

Now that's funny!!!

[lindermant]

spent the last four hours wandering around the gun show... saw a Colt Magnum Carry for $550. Went looking for a DS, but this beauty was calling to me.

It was at one of the first tables I came to. The old gun show Catch-22; buy right away and miss an opportunity four tables down, or take the chance in waiting to see what else is at the show and lose out. By the time I stopped by the vendor for a second time, someone had put a hold on it until the morning.

At any rate, I like the way it felt and I'll definitely be watching for these in the future!

[Texas Colt]

Sorry to hear about that Tom. Been there, done that... more than once unfortunately. :banghead:

I'm hoping to get to a show this weekend, so I'll be sure to keep your misfortune in mind as I peruse the tables.

Ed

[ak-kev]

Your not alone Tom, I've done it too..... many times:( The kids and I are going tomorrow, so your story will be fresh in my mind. Im sorry it didnt work out, you'll get one soon Im sure. Actually, I cant believe it was 550.00. I've never seen one for that on Gunbroker.

[Texas Colt]

Good luck at the show Kevin! Looking for anything in particular?

I'll be looking for a 4" stainless King Cobra and/or an older 4" Official Police... That is if I get there. I'm speaking at a men's breakfast in the morning and then working with a couple other guys to process a bunch of deer meat.

[Phydeaux642]

Well, it didn't happen to me at a gun show but I did just miss a S&W model 36 snubbie that was near perfect at a LGS. I was in the store the other day looking around when I spotted it, but the store was closing early so I told them that I would come back. When I made it back Wednesday it was gone. Then Thursday a customer where I work comes in and tells me about this great find he had come across at a LGS. Well, needless to say, he had the 36.:banghead:

"Phydeaux, bad dog....no biscuit!"

[firemedic4]

after a day at the range trying out my new 642
http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=67391&d=1195272147

[lindermant]

no worries - that little Magnum Carry caught me by surprise (never ever thought I'd see one in person). When I asked the vendor to see it, he said I was the first person he's ever met that actually knew what it was (thank you THR snubbie thread) :D

Another Colt that caught my eye was a 1951 Colt Lightweight Commander chambered in 9mm. Bone stock, used/not abused and marked at $675.

I spent a little bit of time on the Colt Forum before the show and was taken by some pics I saw of a Detective Special that someone worked over to include adding a 3" barrel; it just looked so right. That's why I was so focused on finding a well used DS that I could modify. Tunnel vision sure is bad ;)

But the hunt is almost as much fun as actually getting one!

[Texas Colt]

The countdown... just one more day until my new-to-me nickel Colt Cobra and blued Detective Special arrive. I bought them both from Joe Salter www.joesalter.com.

They are scheduled to arrive on Wednesday, so I can pick them up on the way home from work. That means I'll get to spend Thanksgiving weekend playing with my new toys :D

Here's a picture of them from Joe Salter's website. They'll be much nicer after some good ole TLC.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/Colt%20Revolvers/CobraF78105-06.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/Colt%20Revolvers/DSS24621-01.jpg

[ak-kev]

Congrats Ed!! I wish you could do a step by step TLC tutorial. I would love to see what all you do to your D-frames. Maybe one day I can fly out to Texas an watch you!!

[Texas Colt]

Kevin,

It's pretty simple really. After doing a function check, I tear them completely down and give everything a real good cleaning. In the case of the nickel Cobra, the nickel will get polished with Simichrome to make it purty.

The bore, chambers, and forcing cone get cleaned to remove any fouling and lead build up. It's amazing how much lead some guns have around the forcing cone. One of these days I'm going to invest in a forcing cone reamer to true up the angle and remove tool marks.

The internal parts get degreased and checked for any burrs or rough edges. I use Arkansas stones and a ceramic polishing stick to clean up anything I find. Then I lube, reassemble and test.

But if you want to come out and watch, you're welcome. Just bring some of your toys and plenty of ammo. All work and no play.... :D

[Old Fuff]

One of these days I'm going to invest in a forcing cone reamer to true up the angle and remove tool marks.

Brownells (www.brownells.com) have a set-up, But be VERY CAREFUL if you ream anything. Polishing out tool marks may be O.K., but don't go any further. They have a guage to check the cone depth, and you don't want too do anything until you check the present depth to determine exactly how far you can go. Often it is necessary to set the barrel back and then cut a new cone. If this is the case it's usually more the a home 'smith is equipped to do.

Also be careful when it comes to "touching up" lockwork. A little too much in the wrong place can have a negative effect on the timing. As a rule-of-thumb some dry firing will burnish off any burrs that migh be causing problems, and is safe too do. Remember. a rough surface that doesn't contact anything doesn't need to be smoothed, and polishing it won't make any difference in the way the action works.

[Texas Colt]

Very true Old Fuff. I learned that lesson many years ago when I worked in an engine shop that a little machining goes a long way. It's very easy to remove too much metal and end up with a ruined part. It was a bonus for me that my old boss at the engine shop was also a shooter and part-time gunsmith. He taught me a lot!

[Texas Colt]

Well, here's the latest addition to my snubbie collection. I've had it for over a week, but just haven't had time to take any pictures until today. I added the Badger grips as soon as I got it home. The nickel isn't perfect, but most of the blemishes have polished out. Still haven't had it to the range yet either. Hopefully tomorrow if it doesn't rain.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/Colt%20Revolvers/NickelCobra1.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/redcolt/Guns/Colt%20Revolvers/NickelCobra2.jpg

[ak-kev]

Wow Ed, you do some really nice work!! The nickel polished out very nicely! Congrats on a beautiful piece.

[Old Fuff]

Look see.... :cool:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=320473

[Texas Colt]

Yeah, that's a really neat rig for the snubbie, but if I'm wearing a jacket or coat, I'm carrying a Colt with a little more "horsey power" than a 2" snub :D

[BuzzInTx]

S&W Gunsite 442

[rdrancher]

BuzzInTx -Is that a Black T finish?

It's beautiful!

You need to check that purdy little thing in over at the 642 Club.

rd

[jetman]

I've got a couple snubbies too, and they are all Colts
NIB Nickel Cobra
http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/4895/2885974360010258782S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2885974360010258782KeGOgD)
Magnum Carry .357
http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/32384/2838708140010258782S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2838708140010258782aLCMfK)
Python .357
http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/30567/2166606450010258782S600x600Q85.jpg (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2166606450010258782NMBgZN)

[BuzzInTx]

Thanks RD - Yes, it does have the Black T finish.