British .303 Max ranges


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68'chevelle
September 29, 2007, 11:25 PM
Can sombody tell me the max range, and max effective range for a 180gr. British .303 bullets?

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Wheeler44
September 29, 2007, 11:49 PM
The early models had volley sights for shooting at ranges of over a mile. The latest built had adjustable sights regulated up to 1200 yards (might be meters but I don't think so). They are commonly shot at the 700-800 meter range. I don't know about effective range, I guess it depends on what you want it to be effective against.

Wheeler44

Officers'Wife
September 30, 2007, 12:36 AM
Hi Chevelle,

Dad's range at the farm was only 500 meters but my .303 would consistantly penetrate 1/4 mild steel targets at that range. However, I was using handloads that were quite a bit "hotter" than factory load. (3000+fps) My Gramps always told me any Enfield (or Springfield) would shoot further than the operator had talent to hit a target at. That would be as good a rule as any for the weapon.

Selena

DougW
September 30, 2007, 09:56 AM
At the long ranges the .303 is about as effective as the 30.06 from the 1903 Springfield or the 8mm Mauser from the 98K. The accuracy depends on a lot of things, but accuracy is increased with better sights on the #4mk1 Enfield or the 1903A3. Real riflemen can make 600 to 800 yard shots easily. The old sights with settings past 1500 yards were for volley fire. Mujahadeen riflemen with #1 rifles were making 800 yard shots against Russial troops all the time.

woodybrighton
September 30, 2007, 10:02 AM
a platoon could put down effective fire out to nearly 1500yds thats 30 guys
firing at a mass of troops or point target.
vickers machine guns could using map predicted fire hit out to 4000 metres
my old cadet manual put the danger area from a .303 rifle fired accidentally at
45 degrees nearly 10 miles:eek:
before you scoff a british policeman tripped and had an nd with a .357 pistol broke a childs leg at nearly 2 miles (loads of uk ranges were rebuilt after that accident:uhoh:

MudPuppy
September 30, 2007, 10:56 AM
I'm going to have to double check you on that one. ;)

I thought max range on a 303 was about 3ish thousand yards (maybe 4?), with max effective listed at 1,000.

There's actually a military standard of max effective, typically when that term is used its not subjective to the shooter. The little blue infantry book I used to have, for example, listed max effective of the M16 AND M14 as 460 meters, iirc. (I've been out for 20 years and lived in hippie land for 10--its a wonder I remember which end goes to the shoulder.)

MJ
September 30, 2007, 12:19 PM
600 yards for the infantry rifle.

1000 yards for the #4T and L42 rifle.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/bkt085.jpg

:cool:

Jubjub
September 30, 2007, 03:45 PM
Found a table of max ranges for the 7.5 Swiss with the 174 grain boattail. Boattail bullets have significantly longer maximum ranges than flat base bullets.

At 30 degrees elevation, range 4413 yards, flight time 27.91 seconds, final velocity 405 fps, angle of fall 62.4.

At 35 degrees, range 4456, flight time 31.06, velocity 417, angle 67.4.

At 40 degrees, range 4413, flight time 34.01, velocity 429, angle 71.35.

It's kind of interesting that the max range doesn't really change over a ten degree elevation change. They just go higher, not farther.

68'chevelle
September 30, 2007, 05:49 PM
Thanks to all I found what I needed.

jpwilly
September 30, 2007, 05:57 PM
Max ranges for 303 are very similar to 30-06 / 308. I handrolled some 174gr Sierra MatchKing BTHP Match with 42gr of Varget...they will shoot to 1000M if the rifle and operator are capable.

Tony Williams
October 1, 2007, 02:45 AM
The standard Mk VII ball is flat based, and will probably range to c. 3,000 yards. The boat-tailed MK VIII, loaded to a higher pressure and intended for Vickers MGs, can manage over 4,000.

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