Problem with new Taurus pt111


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adam_c
September 30, 2007, 01:14 AM
Hello All,
I am a new member to the forum, but I spent a lot of time browsing here when my wife and I decided to buy her a handgun.

This is our first handgun, so I'll profess a profound ignorance to the inner workings of an autoloader.

We took it out today for the first time and after 4 shots, the trigger doesn't engage. I don't know if that is the technical word for it, but basically, the trigger is exactly the same after a round has been chambered as it is when the gun is unloaded.

The round is chambered, but the trigger does nothing.

So after 4 shots, it's now dead. I read the Taurus Customer Service horror stories on here and I was wondering if anyone had a diagnosis before I send it off and possibly never see it again. I don't know if this is a common, easily fixed problem or what.

Thanks for any help.

Adam C

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actionflies
September 30, 2007, 03:09 AM
Sorry to hear about you Taurus. This is the reason why I will never buy a Taurus because it's a hit and miss with their guns. Post your problem in this forum http://www.1911forum.com/forums/index.php

ajoker31
September 30, 2007, 09:47 AM
It's hard to say what it is without seeing it. It would be worth your time to stop by the local gunsmith and ask what he thinks. It could be something extremely simple. If for instance he says it's a simple broken part I'd probably just ask Taurus to send it to you and either put it in myself or have the local smith do it.


I've had great pistols from Taurus and bad ones.......but because of their customer service I now have none and never will again as a matter of principle.

Joker

wally
September 30, 2007, 09:59 AM
He has the PT-111 not the PT-1911 so I don't think 1911forum.com will be of much help.

Sounds like something is broke, its a bummer but Taurus shouldn't have much trouble fixing such an obvious problem. Take it to the dealer you bought it from and have them send it back -- they can ship it for about 1/10th of what FedEX or UPS will charge you (because he's a dealer).

--wally.

cocojo
September 30, 2007, 04:04 PM
I owned two taurus pistols Pt111 & PT140 loved the feel of the guns but they break way too often. My guns broke the same as yours many times, once trying to qualify, I traded them both. Take slide off and look where the plastic hinges on the trigger mostly on the left side. Look and see if there is a piece of plastic dangeling. I got tired of shipping the gun back to Taurus at $40.00 a pop, they will not pick up the tab for shipping costs. They are warrantied forever but the shipping cost are rediculous. Three times back and forth and now the gun was too high for what it was. Sold both and bought a HKP2000SK, no more problems.

adam_c
September 30, 2007, 08:14 PM
Well guess what? The gun isn't broke. But I'm sure there is a lesson here about being familiar with your weapon before you shoot it.

My wife took the first 3 shots and then handed it off to her father. He is familiar with guns and was walking her through shooting for the first time. Apparently, this gun goes from double action on the first shot after cocking to single action for subsequent shots. When he took the gun, it was in single action mode. He fired once, took the clip out to explain something to her and when he re-cocked, it was back to double action mode which meant the trigger had a tremendous amount of play until the last fraction of an inch.

As soon as he noticed there was no tension on the trigger, he immediately dropped the clip and removed the round from the chamber and that is a far as we went with trying to figure out why.


I noticed today that the manual mentioned the single action/double action firing and thought I would give it one last experiment before seeking repairs and it works just like the book says it will.


Thanks for the replies.

Adam C

cocojo
September 30, 2007, 10:24 PM
That's new one. Both my Taurus pistols PT111 & PT140 were double action only. I don't recall Taurus making a single/double PT 111. Maybe this is something new.

MPanova
October 1, 2007, 03:16 AM
All the new Mil Pro models and 24/7 Pro models are single action only. They do have a 2nd strike cabability if a round does not go off it will revert back to double action so you can try it again with out racking the slide. There is no way to fire it the first time in double action mode as there is no decocker, in order to load a round in the chamber to be fired you must rack the slide or start with it back and release it on to a round, in either case you would have cocked the striker by pulling the slide back, once the round is fired and the slide cycles it is again a single action pull. There is some take up in the trigger before it releases the striker in a single action. Again the only time you get a double action pull is if you pull the trigger and the slide does not cycle, so if a round does not go off or you are dry firing, that is the only time you see a double action pull from these 3rd gen Mil Pro pistols. I am assumeing your is a 3rd gen since you just bought it, it does have the 2 dot straight eight sights correct?

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