Not all Republicans are pro-gun. Draw your own conclusions.


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July 10, 2003, 05:02 PM
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ELECTION 2004
Democrats shy about guns?
Analyst says candidates avoid discussion because it harms party

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Posted: July 10, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Leading candidates seeking the Democrat Party's presidential nomination in 2004 are shying away from public discussions of gun control because the issue is widely seen as a contributing factor in the loss of the White House and Congress in recent past elections, says a news analysis of the issue.

"Democrats are nervous about these issues," Peter Hamm, communications director for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, told the Hartford Courant newspaper, "but they really don't need to be."

Not all Democratic supporters and strategists, however, agree with Hamm's assessment, especially for Democrats further away from the confines of the Washington Beltway.

"I know there are concerns in large cities, but I want to hear candidates stand up and say they support the Second Amendment," Edgar Malepeai, vice chairman of the Idaho Democratic Party, told the Courant.

"This [pro-gun control] attitude has been a real problem in the West," Montana Democratic Chairman Bob Ream said. "Republicans have painted Democrats as people who will take your guns away."

But Republicans point out Democrats most often vote to add limits or restrictions to firearms ownership and access. In the 1990s, for example, the most influential gun control initiative – the so-called "assault weapons ban" passed in 1994 – was championed by Democrats in the House and Senate and supported enthusiastically by President Bill Clinton.

Gun control groups such as the Brady Campaign also track lawmakers' and candidates' votes on such issues. The group says Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., who is vying for his party's 2004 nomination, has a 90 percent support rating on gun-control initiatives.

But the perception Democrats are rabid anti-gunners is taking hold in candidates, at least rhetorically.

Lieberman, for instance, has said "citizens have a right to own firearms." Rep. Dick Gephardt, D-Mo., also a Democratic presidential candidate, said last month, "I support the right of any law-abiding citizen to own and use firearms for legal purposes. It's important for all of us to say that in our country."

Another candidate, Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, has talked of how he has hunted since he was 8 years old. And one of the nation's most liberal lawmakers, Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich, says, "I'm sensitive to guns. It's possible to have gun laws that in no way interfere with hunters."

One of Democrats' most favorite presidential contenders, Gov. Howard Dean of Vermont – the first state to pass a hassle-free concealed carry law – says he supports background checks and the current ban on assault weapons, but otherwise would "let states do what they want." With that platform, he says, "I can run in the West."

Such talk, say gun rights advocates, is just smoke and mirrors.

"Our members are very savvy. They know the rhetoric doesn't match the record" of Democrats on the gun issue, Chris W. Cox, the National Rifle Association's chief lobbyist, told the paper.

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HBK
July 10, 2003, 05:07 PM
Anyone who wants to get elected BETTER support the right to keep and bear arms.

CZ-75
July 10, 2003, 05:12 PM
Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich, says, "I'm sensitive to guns. It's possible to have gun laws that in no way interfere with hunters."

Another candidate, Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, has talked of how he has hunted since he was 8 years old.

It's ALL about hunting. :rolleyes:

:barf:



Rep. Dick Gephardt, D-Mo., also a Democratic presidential candidate, said last month, "I support the right of any law-abiding citizen to own and use firearms for legal purposes. It's important for all of us to say that in our country."

= hunting

KC
July 10, 2003, 05:28 PM
Amazing. I cannot find A SINGLE refrence to hunting being protected in the constitution. No ducks, geese, bear, deer, or any other sort of fuzzy animal. Weapons for the purpose of common defence, on the other hand...

I think we should regulate away the "right" of people to own guns for hunting. Hunting is a privilge, not a right. It should be a requirement for all citizens capable of militiary/militia service to own a military-style assualt weapon (black, hi-cap magazine, bayonet lug, yadda yadda yadda). If someone wants to own a bolt-action rifle, it had damm better have a scope on it, sighted in, and the owner should be able to play sniper with it. If someone wants to go hunting with their service weapon, that's fine.

How about them apples?:cool:

Standing Wolf
July 10, 2003, 09:15 PM
Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich, says, "I'm sensitive to guns. It's possible to have gun laws that in no way interfere with hunters."

1.) he's a fool if he believes a single word of that, and 2.) the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. Representatives of the Democratic (sic) party are plain old-fashioned looters.

AZRickD
July 10, 2003, 11:10 PM
The Demos don't support hunting any more than they support a person being able to have the means to protect themselves from criminal attack or criminal governments.

Rick

S_O_Laban
July 11, 2003, 01:42 AM
How about them apples?

Thank you, Sir, and may I have another?:D

Duncan Idaho
July 11, 2003, 02:18 AM
Not all Republicans are pro-gun. Draw your own conclusions. I have drawn my own conclusions. The Demorats have about 2-3% of their membership that understand the 2nd Amendment. In other words, the number of Demorats that "get it" amount to slightly more than nothing. Big deal.

WonderNine
July 11, 2003, 03:14 AM
Most Democrats will not want to talk about THEIR issue with guns. But believe me, when nobody is watching, the more militant anti-gunners will be pushing new gun laws through.

greyhound
July 11, 2003, 08:12 AM
Maybe we can save ourselves a lot of time during the election campaign.

Every time someone mentions guns to a Democratic cabdidate, he can just shout "HUNTING!" and move on to the next question. :D

Applies to lots of Reublicans, too.

Master Blaster
July 11, 2003, 08:31 AM
Rep. Dick Gephardt, D-Mo., also a Democratic presidential candidate, said last month, "I support the right of any law-abiding citizen to own and use firearms for legal purposes. It's important for all of us to say that in our country."


SAY IT DICK, Cause us gun ownin bumpkins are tooo stuuuupid to know you are a LIAR, and a sack of Horse $%#&.

I hate LIARS. I DONT VOTE FOR LIARS.:barf:

aircarver
July 11, 2003, 02:03 PM
Republicans who aren't pro-gun... bring 'em to our attention & we'll take care of 'em in the primaries.

Dems, we send down the tubes as a matter of course. :barf:

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