Blast from the Past: Detonics Combat Master


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Marko Kloos
July 10, 2003, 06:51 PM
I just picked up a Detonics Mk.I from a fellow THR member in a trade. These pistols were the proverbial cat's meow as carry pieces back in the 1980s, and the forerunners of the currently popular subcompact big bore handguns.

It's basically a chopped-down 1911 frame, with a grip that's even shorter than a Colt Officer's Model. The slide is stepped down at the rear, with the rear sight mounted well forward of the slide end, to allow rapid thumb-cocking. It also gives the Detonics a chopped, business-like look. The barrel is a bushingless, coned 3" affair. The Detonics magazines hold six rounds, and standard 1911 magazines will fit and function in the Detonics (although they'll stick out of the bottom).

The Detonics Combat Master was the first serious "street-fighting" subcompact 1911, and it had a pretty good reputation in its day. They are very well put together, and tend to be very reliable with both FMJ and JHP ammo, being designed from the start to feed JHPs reliably.

This little gun has a *lot* of punch for something so comparatively small. The Detonics was ahead of its time, and it can still hold its own against current-day subcompacts.

Range report to follow...


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Cal4D4
July 10, 2003, 07:32 PM
Had the stainless version. Tended to chomp case mouth on ejector port. Very accurate, but too short. Reminds me of the G29 in size. Maybe not quite as thick.

10-Ring
July 10, 2003, 07:36 PM
Look forward to the range report, congrats on the new addition.

Sean Smith
July 10, 2003, 07:52 PM
Cool idea... definitely ahead of its time. In general, though, I'd say a 4-4.25" barrel top end on an OM frame is a more reliable setup (on average) that is nearly as concealable.

pytron
July 10, 2003, 08:04 PM
Wow. That one is in really good condition. All the ones I've seen look like they were dragged behind a truck for a mile or two.

-Pytron

Marko Kloos
July 10, 2003, 08:09 PM
This one has been refinished, but they did a great job at it. The finish is a nice satin matte blue that looks very professional.

George Hill
July 10, 2003, 08:58 PM
This data was collected at a Utah TFL Gathering some time ago, but the data is still good. I had a similar Combat Master, but in Stainless. I kick my self every day for selling it.

Detonics Combat Master .45
Winchester White Box 230gr. 791.4 766.5 750.9 Avg= 769.6

Cor-Bon 165gr +P 1046 1103 1121 Avg = 1090 Caused Bleeding in shooting hand.

Gold Dot 185gr 998.4 975.6 979.2 Avg = 984.4

Winchester 230gr SXT 785.5 810.6 796.2 Avg = 797.4

Federal 230gr Hydra Shok 781 806.3 774 Avg = 787.1

American Eagle 230gr 784 734 748 Avg = 755.3

ACP230
July 11, 2003, 12:02 AM
Lendringser:

I read that moving the rear sight forward made the sight radius short enough to affect accuracy. I can't remember who was complaining now, but would be interested in your take on that.

I had a chance to buy a nearly mint Commander-size Detonics some years ago. I passed because it was getting to be a collectable and I knew I'd shoot it, probably on the way home from the store. It was a good-looking gun.

Bren
July 11, 2003, 01:31 AM
I thought the "Star PD" was the first but The Detonics did have a lot of features not found for it's time.

If it says "Seattle" or "Belevue" on it, the guns a collector. Bren

CWL
July 11, 2003, 03:40 AM
Beautiful pistola there, should've bought one back then (instead of plastic wondernines).

How does it treat your hand? Is it painful to shoot?

My current officer's in alloy really does a number on my hand when shooting anything above 185gr.

BigG
July 11, 2003, 07:13 AM
I was just reading in Ctgs of the World about the 451 Detonics that was chambered in some a those pieces. 200 grain at 1200 fps. Now, that would hurt your hand!

George Hill
July 11, 2003, 11:06 AM
Detonics was way ahead of the times.

cordex
July 11, 2003, 11:10 AM
John Rourke would be proud.

Tamara
July 11, 2003, 03:28 PM
It definitely is a funky little gun... ;)

George Hill
July 11, 2003, 04:07 PM
They are only funky at first. When you carry one... you realize they are "Just Right".

Tamara
July 11, 2003, 06:49 PM
They are only funky at first. When you carry one... you realize they are "Just Right".

Maybe you want to hear the rest of the story... ;)

Matt G
July 12, 2003, 10:31 AM
They are nifty guns, for carry in a good belt holster. Being steel, they're a good deal heavier than an alloy framed Star P.D. or Colt O.A.C.P. It always made us laugh to see old Miami Vice episodes in which Crockett would run like a demon after some bad guy, pull up his pant leg, and draw his backup Detonics from his ankle rig. While compact, it would be something of a brick to wear in ankle carry.

They've got a pretty good reputation for reliability and durability, but while I've handled them, I've never gotten to shoot one. Would love to.

Looks like a nice piece, Marko. Nifty find.

--Matt.

uglymofo
July 12, 2003, 10:56 AM
Of all the guns I regret selling, that one's at the top of the list. Sweet, flawless, small, light. If my impressions are still trustworthy, I think the Kimber UTs spring setup allowed for better handling (of course, technology's come a long way). I remember the Detonics being a slow double-tap vs. something like the Kimber.

I saw one at a show a year ago...but it looked like hell for $750.

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