FWD: Tragedy averted


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WAGCEVP
July 10, 2003, 08:27 PM
An editorial in the Bucks County Courier Times. Who writes this drivel?

Bill


Tragedy averted
(Wed, Jul/09/2003)

The headlines might have been different.

How close we came to picking up Monday's newspaper and reading of a Columbine-like massacre in Camden County, with bodies strewn on bloodied floors and survivors crying in anguish and bewilderment.

Instead, an 18-year-old from Oaklyn is behind bars, charged with masterminding a bizarre and potentially lethal plot to execute three people and then shoot some more people at random. Two of Matthew Lovett's friends - one 14 years old, one 15 - have also been implicated.

No lives were lost. This time.

Tragedy was averted when an attempted carjacking went wrong, alerting police to the fact that the three young men reportedly were carrying guns, swords, knives - and an arsenal of evil intentions.

But the incident put the area on notice that its population is as vulnerable as those in Littleton, Colo., and Pearl, Miss., and Jonesboro, Ark.

It also reminded us of two things we desperately need to remember.

One is that guns left in the wrong places inevitably get into the wrong hands.

The other is that parents, teachers, counselors and clergy members cannot be too vigilant in catching warning signals among troubled youths.

Generations of bullied kids have yearned for revenge, as Matthew Lovett apparently did. But only recently, as guns became widely accessible in the home, have these youths had weapons of mass destruction at their disposal.

According to authorities, the boys involved in the Oaklyn incident carried arms legally owned and registered by Lovett's father.

Ceasefire New Jersey is a statewide coalition of groups and individuals trying to stop gun violence.

On Monday, its officials urged parents to remove guns from their homes in the wake of the near-disaster.

Rather than protecting themselves and their loved ones with the firearms, said Ceasefire Board Chair David Matos, these adults are "putting their families, their friends, their neighbors and ... even innocent people outside the home at greater risk of gun violence."

Matos doesn't buy the fiction that parents can store guns at home where kids can't find them, and neither do we. A youngster determined to inflict serious damage can psych out even the craftiest parent's hiding place.

And then there is the issue of bullying.

Dismissed for years as something all kids go through, the incessant cruelty has come under societal scrutiny lately as its devastating effects have been explored.

We surely are not looking to excuse the young men who allegedly plotted to massacre their peers in Oaklyn, any more than we would excuse the two teens who dressed in black trench coats and killed 12 of their fellow students and a teacher in Littleton in 1999.

But teasing is not harmless schoolyard fun. Its toxic effects run deep, and they too frequently give birth to seething, unquenchable rage.

South Jersey got off easy this time. Emphasis on this time. But those of us who live here are permanently on notice that the violence "next door" is a lot closer than we think.


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CZ 75 BD
July 10, 2003, 08:32 PM
:cuss: :barf: :fire: :banghead: :scrutiny:
What a load of crap!

Mark Tyson
July 10, 2003, 08:32 PM
Excuse me for intruding on your little fantasy world, but guns have always been widely available at home and in fact in the past were much more available to kids.

In fact . . . oh, never mind.

Elminster
July 10, 2003, 08:33 PM
One is that guns left in the wrong places inevitably get into the wrong hands.

Of course those swords and knives are harmless, even if in the hands of someone bent on doing evil. :banghead:

TarpleyG
July 10, 2003, 08:39 PM
But only recently, as guns became widely accessible in the home, have these youths had weapons of mass destruction at their disposal.
'cause we didn't have any guns in our homes before the media started reporting about these types of events, right?

GT

greyhound
July 10, 2003, 08:48 PM
The issue of why this happens so often these days is beyond my comprehension. Even as a child of the late 70s/early 80s this kind of stuff was much more rare. And, yes, we had shoot-em-up video games back then, not as realistic, but even with Atari's "Combat" you were still blowing up tanks and planes.....

pytron
July 10, 2003, 08:54 PM
...these youths had weapons of mass destruction at their disposal. Since when did swords, knives, and firearms become weapons on MASS destruction? YET ANOTHER misapplication of the latest buzzword by the media. :fire:

Mark D
July 10, 2003, 09:04 PM
As a kid, every last one of my friends had at least a .22 of some sort. Those who were luckier had a 12 ga, and the requisite 30-30. By my teenage years, most of my friends were getting things like 30.06 bolt guns and .357's for Christmas and birthdays. GASP! We even took our guns to school for show-n-tell sometimes! THE HORROR!

I know for a fact, that if any of my friends or yours truly had ever tried to pull some assinine stunt like actually threatening someone with a gun (or just threatened someone period); we would have had the holy crap beaten out of us by whichever adult found out first(with the full blessing of the offenders parents) then delivered unto our parents for a second round of butt-whooping. I'm sure we would still be grounded and doing hard labor in the kitchen/basement/backyard.

The kids mentioned in the above article are the symptom of a larger disease, and guns aren't the cause.

WAGCEVP
July 10, 2003, 09:09 PM
unfortunately, whoopin's are PIC now a days......... it takes a village to raise kids now y'know and the villlage says you are not allowed to hurt the little ones "feelings', "pride'", "ego" or anything else..............


:banghead: :cuss: :fire: :rolleyes: :what: :barf:

Standing Wolf
July 10, 2003, 09:31 PM
Ceasefire New Jersey is a statewide coalition of groups and individuals trying to stop gun violence.
On Monday, its officials urged parents to remove guns from their homes in the wake of the near-disaster.

Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites—and shameless carrion feeders into the bargain. Whenever criminals strike, you can count on the leftists to ignore the criminals and screech for disarming more victims.

standingbear
July 10, 2003, 10:53 PM
(sarcasm mode)yeah..lets remove all the guns from our homes,itll be much safer for any street trash to just come on down and make themselves at home in our house.we can then ask their humble permission to dial 911 on our phone,offer them a soda and some chips and ask their "humble"permission to use the phone again an order them a pizza or something.it might be a good i-dear to also remove the kitchen cutlery and put corks on all the fork tips.oops,almost forgot the hammer,screwdrivers and the lighters.(sarcasm off)the article said the older one carried around a ball bat..there goes baseball.tisk tisk violance everywhere.

St. Gunner
July 11, 2003, 12:16 AM
And then there is the issue of bullying.

Dismissed for years as something all kids go through, the incessant cruelty has come under societal scrutiny lately as its devastating effects have been explored.


Yes but in todays society when the bully big Timmy, decides to push little Johnny around and Johnny has had enough and decides to kick Timmy in the nuts, then beat on his face as "Eye of the Tiger" plays in his mind, they drag him off and throw him in the office and discipline him just like they would Timmy if his nose wasn't busted and his lip split. Then they wonder why kids like Little Johnny finally say enough is enough and blow-up. Jeez, you throw a dog in a cage and everyday for six weeks beat it with a big stick for no reason, if the seventh week you throw a six yer old in that pen, he's gonna get devoured, same principle applies to kids. They have no outlet for their natural human aggresions, we didn't get to the top of the food chain by being pacifists.

Until this nation offers an outlet for those picked on in society, a way for them to fight back and not be branded for life, we'll see this. The reason the antis among us can't understand all this, is the have prey complex, no ability to see themselves as anything but victims.

:fire:

TarpleyG
July 11, 2003, 08:33 AM
I have already informed my wife that when we have kids and they get to school age the standing orders will be to fight back. I was raised that way and my kids will be too. I won't tolerate bullying of my kids. They will face no punishment from me or my wife if they take in thier own hands to defend themselves. I'm sure the school will see differently.

GT

Henry Bowman
July 11, 2003, 11:44 AM
At least they identified it as an "editorial" and didn't palm it off as objective reporting.

seeker_two
July 11, 2003, 01:30 PM
At least they identified it as an "editorial" and didn't palm it off as objective reporting.

To quote Dilbert: "Since when did ignorance become a point of view?"...:banghead:

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