Burris scope: Good or Bad?


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GarandOwner
October 2, 2007, 12:47 AM
A friend of mine is looking at getting a new scope for his Sako 25-06. One line of scopes that he gets a discount on at his work is Burris. I have never heard of this line. Anyone have one of these that they can recommend, or if there is another brand that you strongly recommend let me know.

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Jimmy Newman
October 2, 2007, 01:07 AM
I have had Burris scopes and have been very happy with them. Mine are older ones, though. I think the Fullfield scopes (which are what I have used) are better than the slightly cheaper Leupold VXII and almost as good as the more expensive Leupold VXIII. (My dad's rifles were mostly VXII's and a few VXIII's)

I have a had a Fullfield 3.5-10x50 on my main deer rifle for about 12 years now, it has never gone significantly out of zero, has stayed clear, and I haven't had any problems with it. I think it's a nice scope.

Just my opinion, of course.

Burris scopes have a "forever" warranty, which is nice.

You'll find people who like them and people that don't.

Sharps Shooter
October 2, 2007, 01:23 AM
Well I like Leupold. But that's probably because I was using Leupolds long before the Burris company ever opened its doors. And about the time the Burris company did open, a mouthy gunsmith tried to sell me a Burris scope by telling me the old Leupold on my rifle wasn't nearly as good.
The truth is, as far as I can tell Leupold and Burris scopes are about the same quality. They're in the same price range too. In fact, the owner of a gun store near here told me the only reason he doesn't sell Burris scopes is because they cost the same as Leupolds and his customers are more familiar with Leupolds, so that's what they buy.
A buddy of mine has had a 3-9 Burris on his .300 Win Mag nearly as long as I've had a 3-9 Leupold on mine. And his Burris serves him just as well as my Leupold does me. I think it's just a Chevy's and Ford's thing. Like I said, I like Leupolds. But if your friend can get a better discount on a Burris, I say go for it. I would if it were me.

ArmedBear
October 2, 2007, 01:52 AM
I got a Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40 with a Ballistic Plex reticle and a pair of rubber-armored Burris binocs for $200.

Forgetting the binocs, if that scope is really somewhere between a VXII and a VXIII, it's substantially less expensive than the equivalent Leupold (who started offering a similar reticle recently but didn't when I bought my Burris).

I like Leupolds. However, I also really like my Burris Fullfield II and would recommend it to anyone. Burris has a reputation for making very rugged scopes, too, but I haven't dropped mine from the Jeep to find out, so I can't say other than that mine's worked perfectly and helped me win a club shooting match.

Between the two, I'd choose based on which one sells what I want at the time, for the better price. For an IER ("scout") scope, I'd go Leupold because they offer what I think is perfect. But for a 3-9x40mm hunting scope, the Fullfield II is a great choice. Check out the product lines of each, weight, size, eye relief, etc., figure out what you want and see if you can go look through what looks like it will work for you.:)

GarandOwner
October 2, 2007, 04:41 AM
Thanks guys, I had never heard of Burris, so I didnt know what their quality was, if they are as good as Leupolds, I might get him to pick me up one with his discount as well :evil:

steverjo
October 2, 2007, 04:50 AM
I recently purchased a Burris Extreme Tactical 3-12x50mm. Illuminated ballistic plex. I am very pleased with quality. I use it on my Tikka T3 Tactical .308.

Byron Quick
October 2, 2007, 05:10 AM
Let's see, I've got a couple of Leupolds, a Burris, a Nikon, a Nightforce, and a Tasco:D

All of my scopes except the Nightforce and the Tasco were bought used and already mated with a rifle. I found a good deal on a used rifle in good condition.

I personally don't consider the Burris to be at quite the quality level of the Leupold. On the other hand, I don't consider it to be substantially lower in quality either. Mine has served me well. At the Burris price point, it can't be beat.

rangerruck
October 2, 2007, 05:24 AM
very good, would not hesitate to get one...

First Shirt
October 2, 2007, 05:26 AM
I was a die-hard Leupold fan for many years, but when I scouterized my M-77 30-06, I put a Burris 2.75X scope on it, and have been quite pleased with it's performance, and quality.

I'm not a total convert yet, but if someone offers me a Burris scope, I sure won't turn it down!

redneck2
October 2, 2007, 06:39 AM
I worked in a gun shop that sold Leupold and Burris, among others. The employees that I trusted the most thought Burris was better than Leupold. Some of the internals in Leupolds are plastic, while the same part in Burris is brass.

Cheap scopes (BSA, Tasco, Swift) would have maybe 2-3 of 10 come back for problems, depending on the particular brand and use. Leupold maybe 1 in 50 to 100. Last I knew they'd only had one Burris come back. In all fairness, Leupold outsold Burris substantially due to the name.

I have Leupold, B&L, Weaver, and Burris scopes. My clearest and brightest scope is my Burris Black Diamond. The others are very close. Helps that the Burris has a 50mm objective.

Khornet
October 2, 2007, 12:19 PM
and a year later I had the barreled action in a vise cleaning it. A neighbor wakled into it, knocking it onto the concrete floor, landing on the scope of course. Made a big ding in the ocular, occupying about 1/3 of the circumference.

Took it to the range next day. No change in zero, still shot MOA with my handloads. Hunted with it for years in all weathers until last year, hunting in heavy driving rain, she finally fogged up.

Sent it back to Burris, got it back a month later all fixed in a nice new box and flannel scope bag. No charge.

Put it back on the rifle and off to the range. Zero had changed by one inch of windage, and still sub-MOA.

I'm sold.

Legionnaire
October 2, 2007, 12:29 PM
Burris makes a very good scope for the money. In my experience, though, they tend to have a bit longer eye relief than the comparable Leupolds. I have a Burris and Leupold scout scope. The Burris has to ride further forward to get a clear sight picture. Same thing with two EFR scopes I have mounted on a pair of rimfire rifles: the Burris has a longer, and less forgiving, eye relief. But no complaints about the quality of the glass or other features. I'd buy another Burris if the price was right, although my first choice always seems to be Leupold.

countryrebel
October 2, 2007, 02:42 PM
I have three,2 ffII 3x9x40 bplex and 1 ffII 4.5x14x42 bplex.l like them way more than my leupolds.

Eyesac
October 2, 2007, 02:50 PM
Burris fan here... Like others have said, pick the options you want and buy the scope, leupold and burris are both great scopes. If he gets a good deal on Burris, Burris it is!

ArmedBear
October 2, 2007, 03:34 PM
they tend to have a bit longer eye relief than the comparable Leupolds

Sounds like a good choice for the Ruger No 1.:evil:

BTW the Fullfield II has an easily adjustable rubberized focus ring on the eyepiece, and it has great focal range. Like many wacko shotgunners, I practice mounting my shotguns in the living room from a low hold, and point-shooting at something on the ceiling or wall.

Sometimes I'll take out my hunting rifle with the Burris on it and practice shouldering that while looking at a target. Even if I had the gun focused for 100 yard shooting, I can point it at the doorknob a few yards away and it's crystal clear through the scope.

fatelk
October 2, 2007, 04:06 PM
I've always used Leupold scopes because they are a great scope with an even better warrantee. I bought a used rifle several years ago with an old Burris 6-18 on it. I paid a very fair price for the rifle, and the scope was a freebe because you couldn't see through it. The guy I bought it from said the scope was junk but might be repairable by Burris.

Long story short, I think it cost me about $6 to ship it to them, and they completely rebuilt it; didn't charge me a penny even though I was not the original buyer. It's a great scope.

iamkris
October 2, 2007, 04:17 PM
I'm a burris fan...I have a $200-special Fullfield 3-9x40mm BallistiPlex. Sharp, clear and bright optics. Holds zero even under recoil of .300 Win Mag I've got it maounted to.

Gator
October 2, 2007, 09:10 PM
Burris has been in business since 1971, it was started by a guy from Redfield after Redfield closed. I think Burris scopes are better than the lower priced Leupolds, but I don't know if they are as good as the top of the line ones; but it is not a big difference. If you want an American made scope Burris and Leupold are your only choices. Burris also has a great warranty, they will fix it for free even if you are not the original owner. Check out Burris Signature rings too, they are fantastic.

Black Snowman
October 2, 2007, 10:03 PM
After making a lot of comparisons and shooting a lot of scopes both nice, and cheap, when it came time to spend the big bucks, I put my money in a Burris. I think they were the best value. For a long range target scope I'd be very tempted to put my money on a Nikon. The Nikon Monarch UCC's have had the best clarity for the money of all the scopes I've used. For cheap scopes I've been buying BSA and they've been satisfactory. Good for the money, but you still get what you pay for. Don't expect the clicks on the adjustments to be anything like what they are marked. The Burris and Nikon scopes have been good about each click = what they claim. My father has a lot of Leopulds and they are a good scope, but their warranty and reputation make them a bit pricier for what you get. If my life depended on it, I'd want a Burris on my gun.

Gordon
October 2, 2007, 11:50 PM
"American made scope Burris and Leupold "

Are you sure some of the Burris's aren't made in the Phillapines or China lately? I know they WERE a fine American product , but their lower priced line is made offshore I believe and personally I'd rather buy Japanese or German than the cheap labor nations:scrutiny:

Gator
October 2, 2007, 11:55 PM
Leupold gets their glass from China, so I wouldn't be surprised if Burris does too. But they both assemble them here, and that's as close as we can get these days. :(

Jimmy Newman
October 3, 2007, 12:06 AM
The Burris Fullfield II scopes are made somewhere else... the other ones are all made in the USA still (at least according to the website).

Shell Shucker
October 3, 2007, 12:45 AM
I'm very happy with my Fullfield II Burris scope. It is a 4.5-14 fine-plex mounted on a bolt action 22. It may be "overkill" on the 22, but I like popping Nano objects and you can't shoot what you can't see! It is VERY clear and the fine cross-hairs don't cover up small targets.

steverjo
October 3, 2007, 01:05 AM
I just got the Burris Extreme Tactical 3-12x50mm, illuminated ballistic mil-dot.
Beautiful scope, good adjustments. I dont think you can do better than this.

TX1911fan
October 3, 2007, 02:14 AM
Burris is great.

M'bogo
October 3, 2007, 06:01 AM
I have a 3x9-40 Burris Fullfield II that is marked "MADE IN THE USA" and I also have a 3x9-40 Burris Fullfield II that came with a "FREE" pair of Burris binoculars. The USA scope has been on a Remington 700 in .270Win for the last 7 years with ZERO problems. It holds its zero and the point of impact does not change by moving the power from 3 to 9.

The "NOT MADE IN THE USA" has not been mounted on a rifle yet. It looks to be as clear as the USA made scope. I hope to have it mounted on a rifle this season though.

The "FREE" pair of binoculars are JUNK...The pair that came with the scope fogged up and formed water droplets on the inside of the lens. They were not exposed to rain or direct water. I sent them back and and got a new pair "FREE". The second "FREE" pair fogged up just as the first ones did. I sent the second "FREE" pair back and got a third "FREE" pair from Burris.

In talking with the fine folks at Burris they informed me that the binos and scopes not "MADE IN THE USA" were being made to the same standards as the ones that were. I wonder though...:scrutiny: what if my new in the box Fullfield II made to "USA" standards is as good as the first two pair of "FREE" binoculars were.

The made over seas Fullfield II is most likely a good scope. If I ever buy another one though I will shop around for the scope that cost $160-$170 not the one that comes with that "FREE" pair of binos that cost $200+

M'bogo

LAK
October 3, 2007, 07:38 AM
Burris was for many, many years one of the best values dollar for dollar on the market IMO. I can not speak firsthand for the "newer" ones; i.e. those with the big white graphics they started using awhile back - but from all reports they are still a very good scope for the money.

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Ash
October 3, 2007, 08:37 AM
The FFII's are assembled in the Philippines with US parts and that is a recent thing. I have one of each and they are the same. By the way, Burris makes many of the Pentax rifle scopes, too.

I have two Nikon Monarchs and two FFII's. I prefer the Monarchs, but, well, I wonder if that is because they are a step up? In any case, the FFII's are excellent scopes and will do well for most hunters. If you can get a discount on a Burris, there's no reason not to get one over a Leupold.

Ash

ArmedBear
October 3, 2007, 02:42 PM
Interesting re the binocs.

Mine have worked perfectly. It's not as humid here, though.:)

ArmedBear
October 3, 2007, 02:48 PM
BTW, American parts assembled in the Philippines made me think of this...

Sony, because caucasians are just too damn tall. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93KrnZ0UJQk)

Bottom Gun
October 3, 2007, 04:17 PM
I have a Burris Black Diamond scope in 3-12 power.
Its optics are equal to or better than any other scope I have used. I am comparing it to several Leupold Vari-X IIIs, some Pre-Monarch Nikons, some Monarchs and two rather unimpressive Zeiss Conquests, which I recently sold.

I have no experience with the other Burris models but this Black Diamond is quite impressive.

Hokkmike
October 3, 2007, 04:34 PM
They are great scopes with a company that has a reputation for service. I had a question about mine and got a quick response from their east coast service manager!

I also recommend Leupold. I consider them about in the same class.

Stevie-Ray
October 3, 2007, 10:40 PM
Back in the 80s there were precious few handgun scopes out there, and even fewer that would stand up to a handgun's punishment. Burris and Leupold were 2 of them. I topped a Redhawk with a Burris 2X, and it performed valiantly even with extra-hot 300 gr. loads. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one again no matter what the application.

kolob10
October 7, 2007, 11:38 AM
I have a couple of the older Burris Signature series rifle scopes. They are great. I use Burris pistol scopes exclusively on my handguns. I like the Leupold rifle scopes currently better than the current crop of Burris scopes.

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