Surplus Pistol Powder From Wideners


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Jhlewis10
October 4, 2007, 02:26 PM
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8265&dir=278|283|313

SM226 8LB SPHERICAL PISTOL POWDER (GREAT FOR 9MM-45ACP-40S&W) $82.00 FOR 8LB


Anyone have any data on this? What is compares to?

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trueblue1776
October 4, 2007, 02:34 PM
I would guess it compare to a powder that does about this:

9mm 5.7gr 115gr FMJ 1145 fps Win/Win SP Glock 19

40 S&W 6.4gr 180gr FP Horn 1000 fps Fed/Wolf SP Glock 22

45 ACP 7.4gr 230 JHP Horn 845 fps Rem/Rem SP Colt 1911

Walkalong
October 4, 2007, 03:16 PM
Just going by the amounts they show for each caliber I would say medium slow. The charge amount is about avg. plus for the 9MM & .40 & heavy for the .45. That tells me it's around N350, Blue Dot, AA #7 etc. It should work well for 9MM & .40, but looks to be slower than I care for in the .45.

This is just a guess, mind you. :uhoh:

I saw that add for SM226 and if I was in need of powder, I would give it a chance. Wideners is pretty honest about their surplus stuff.

Jhlewis10
October 4, 2007, 03:34 PM
Thanks Walk, I am just starting in reloading. I saw the figures listed

9mm 5.7gr 115gr FMJ 1145 fps Win/Win SP Glock 19

40 S&W 6.4gr 180gr FP Horn 1000 fps Fed/Wolf SP Glock 22

45 ACP 7.4gr 230 JHP Horn 845 fps Rem/Rem SP Colt 1911

and did not know if that was a starting point or not. I have my turret set up and manuals on the way, and 2000 124 grn plated winchester bullets in the mail.

Walkalong
October 4, 2007, 04:20 PM
Those are not starting points. Those are max. Reduce 10% from those figures to start and work up. When you get set up and ready to load don't be hesitant to ask questions here at THR.

brickeyee
October 4, 2007, 08:14 PM
"...I am just starting in reloading."

Stay away from non-canister powders till you have a little more experience.

sublimaze41
October 4, 2007, 08:32 PM
Sounds tempting, but for less than 3 dollars per pound I would rather have a commercial powder. For ME it bothers me doing load development when I can't cross check it with published data.

davinci
October 5, 2007, 02:15 PM
do you know how many bullets you can get out of a single pound of powder?

Buy titegroup, it's got load data all over the place for almost everything and 'a little goes a long way' it's very fast burning powder, and I enjoy it thoroughly. Powder valley has titegroup for about $13 per pound, which makes about oh... 2500 or so 45acp or 9mm rounds, again THAT'S $13 FOR 2,500 ROUNDS (about one-half cent per round, lead bullets cost 5 cents or so, primers are about 2 cents each now). cut your costs somewhere else.

putteral
October 5, 2007, 02:32 PM
I agree. You can not go wrong with Titegroup

evan price
October 8, 2007, 01:37 AM
Local shop has Titegroup for $14 a pound and is always selling out of it faster than nearly anything. I buy a pound now whenever I go in there.
4.2 gr in a 124-gr 9mm, 4.7 gr in a 230-gr .45, the stuff lasts and lasts. Meters very well.

zxcvbob
October 8, 2007, 01:55 AM
You want a good cheap powder, pick up a keg of Alliant "Promo". It's about $10 per pound. Use Red Dot data; Promo uses Red Dot load data but it's a little less bulky (it's still a very bulky powder.) It works great in 9mm, .45 Colt, and .38 Special.

Linear Thinker
October 8, 2007, 09:16 AM
Unless you load in quantity, stay away from non-canister powders. The savings are marginal. If you do decide you want to play with industrial powders, buy a lot of it from the same lot. Next time you need it, it won't be available or the next lot will be very different.
LT

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