: (NY) Homeowner nabs thief at gunpoint 07-08-03


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WAGCEVP
July 11, 2003, 05:31 PM
: (NY) Homeowner nabs thief at gunpoint 07-08-03



http://www.syracuse.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news-10/1057653339325325.xml?syrneocit
Homeowner said he used a .22-caliber rifle to hold youth he caught
stealing.
July 08, 2003
By Sue Weibezahl and Maureen Nolan
Staff writers

At about 5 a.m. Monday, Syracuse homeowner Richard Resch was making his
routine safety check of his property through a second-floor window when
he saw a man in the driveway hefting a speaker from a public address
system he stores in the garage.

Further back in the yard in the 800 block of Avery Avenue, a second man
was lifting another speaker over the back fence.

Resch, 34, said he was in a spare bedroom, where he keeps his guns
locked up, about to put on the uniform he wears to work as a
state-licensed security officer. Resch said he grabbed his .22-caliber
rifle, pointed it out the window and ordered the man nearest the house
to freeze or get shot.

He doesn't remember his exact words, but they worked pretty well.

"And he could see me in the window with a gun pointed at him," Resch
said.

The man near the fence dropped the speaker and ran off into the trees
that fringe Resch's property. The man nearest the house dropped the
speaker he carried and froze, Resch said.

The man stayed put until Resch
could scramble downstairs and into the driveway, where he held him at
gunpoint until police arrived.

Resch said he ordered the man to get on his knees, lace his fingers
behind his head and not move.

"Clear, concise commands is part of our training," said Resch, who is
hoping to land a job as a police officer.

He said it took maybe two or three minutes for police to arrive but it
seemed longer. He said he asked the suspect his name and where he was
from, but he didn't necessarily believe the answers.

When police arrived, Kenneth D. Williams, 16, of 285 county Route 29,
Oswego, was on his knees with his hands on top of his head, kneeling by
the speaker, said Sgt. Tom Connellan of the Syracuse Police Department.

Williams reportedly disclosed the identity of the other suspect. Police
found that one - a 15-year-old - at the home of relatives nearby less
than an hour after the incident. That suspect's identity was withheld
because of his age.

Both teens were charged with felony counts of burglary and petit
larceny, Connellan said.

Resch was not charged because the type of gun he used does not require a
permit, said Connellan. It is unusual for a citizen to apprehend a
suspect at gunpoint, and it isn't necessarily the best thing to do, he
said.

"If people pull a gun on someone like that, and they are not properly
trained, they could end up losing the gun, and the gun could be used on
them," he said.

People have every right to protect themselves in their homes, but
sometimes the best thing to do is to be a good observer, get the details
and call the police, Connellan said.

Resch said his security training enabled him to handle the situation,
and he thinks the kids were lucky he has that background.

"Had it been somebody without training, the kid might have been shot.
People have itchy trigger fingers," Resch said.

Police are still investigating to determine if the youths may be
involved in several other garage larcenies that have been reported on
the city's West Side in recent weeks. Anyone with information can call
detectives at 442-5222.

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Standing Wolf
July 11, 2003, 08:44 PM
Williams reportedly disclosed the identity of the other suspect. Police found that one - a 15-year-old - at the home of relatives nearby less than an hour after the incident.

Surprise!

Keith
July 12, 2003, 02:18 PM
"Had it been somebody without training, the kid might have been shot.
People have itchy trigger fingers," Resch said.

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Yeah, only cops or cops-in-training should own or use firearms....

Keith

Mr. Bombastic
July 12, 2003, 02:40 PM
"If people pull a gun on someone like that, and they are not properly trained, they could end up losing the gun, and the gun could be used on them," he said.


Hows the bad guy gonna disarm anyone when he is being targeted from a second floor window?! :rolleyes:

TheOtherOne
July 13, 2003, 12:34 AM
Hows the bad guy gonna disarm anyone when he is being targeted from a second floor window?! I guess you've never seen "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon". Hey, it could happen! :D

4v50 Gary
July 13, 2003, 12:08 PM
A parking lot commando does well. All kidding set aside, I'm glad this guy behaved responsibly in capturing the burglar. It reflects well on all gun owners.

R-Tex12
July 13, 2003, 06:13 PM
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"If people pull a gun on someone like that, and they are not properly trained, they could end up losing the gun, and the gun could be used on them," he said.

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"I may get killed with my own gun, but he’s gonna have to beat me to death with it, ‘cause it’s going to be empty." Clint Smith

Kharn
July 14, 2003, 07:37 AM
Resch was not charged because the type of gun he used does not require a permit, said Connellan.
To me, that reads like the cop said if you used a gun (that was required by law to be registered) to defend yourself, you'd be charged with a crime. :rolleyes: I wonder if its a case of Connellan messing up while trying to paraphrase the law, or if the reporter just screwed up the quote.

Kharn

seeker_two
July 14, 2003, 11:12 AM
"If people pull a gun on someone like that, and they are not properly trained, they could end up losing the gun, and the gun could be used on them," he said.

SOMEBODY hasn't read the FBI stats on how many "properly-trained" officers are shot w/ their own service weapons...:scrutiny:

Sgt. Tom Connellan of the Syracuse Police Department.--Just another cop in the big, liberal, nanny state...:banghead:

WAGCEVP
July 14, 2003, 07:58 PM
(TN) Prolific cat burglar killed by homeowner 07-13-03


[Story mentions at least two other cases where armed homeowners chased
him from their homes.]
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GoMemphis: Local
Address:http://www.gomemphis.com/mca/local_news/article/0,1426,MCA_437_2105759,00.html

Cat burglar knew 'game was up'
Brazen thief told sister he would rather die than return to prison By
Chris Conley
conley@gomemphis.com
July 13, 2003

The day before he was shot and killed inside a Hickory Hill home, cat
burglar David Ronald Washington told his sister he could never return to
prison.

In and out of lockup his entire adult life, 44-year-old 'Little Ronnie'
knew that with his record, he would spend the rest of his life in prison
if convicted again. Even so, within a month of his parole in February,
he went on a spree of house burglaries unprecedented in Memphis.

Burglary detectives have attributed 87 break-ins to Washington so
far. They think he may have been responsible for as many as 300 before
he was killed June 13 during a fight with the homeowner.

For 3 months, Washington worked at his trade almost nightly. He slipped
in through windows wearing gloves, a dark hood and clothing to hide his
5-foot-5, 140-pound frame.

He took only cash and jewelry. He never bragged about his exploits. He
didn't work with a partner or carry a gun.

Police have recovered a small portion of the loot and don't know what he
did with the rest.

When confronted inside homes, Washington fled, escaping through the same
window he entered. And while he never attacked any of his victims, he
scared the daylights out of several.

"He came creeping down the hall, and I saw a head stick around the
bedroom door," said 80-year-old Jerome Morrison of East Memphis. "I
yelled that I was calling 911. . . . He scared the hell out of me,"
Morrison said.

Others told police of waking up in the middle of the night and seeing
the cat burglar hovering over them.

In April, he crawled through a window, walked in on a couple eating
supper and dove out the same window.

On June 3, a sleeping woman heard a bumping noise and woke up to see an
intruder standing over her.

The woman's boyfriend chased the man out of the bedroom, down the stairs
and into the kitchen, where the burglar crashed through a window.

One victim described his encounter with the cat burglar as "very eerie,
very creepy," according to police reports.

Despite Washington's care to mask his identity, by April, burglary
detectives were hot on his trail. The cat burglar wasn't leaving
fingerprints, but his method of operations had rung a bell with Burglary
Det. Daniel Barham.

Back in 1996, while working as a patrolman in the East Precinct, Barham
had helped investigate a series of burglaries with very similar
earmarks, and he remembered the burglar was named Washington.

Detectives discovered that Washington, who had been convicted in 1997
for a series of burglaries in East Memphis, had been released from state
prison in February.

Barham said Washington looked for a particular type of window, with
multiple panes on the top and bottom.

He would remove a pane from the bottom section using a putty knife or
something similar, then reach up and turn the lock, Barham said.

In mid-April, after one burglary victim identified Washington in a photo
spread, police charged Washington in the first of three warrants for
burglary.

By early June, Washington's picture was everywhere: on television, on
fliers, in the newspapers. Detectives were combing South Memphis, where
Washington had lived briefly with his mother after getting out of
prison, and watching his haunts.

As the police closed in, Washington kept slipping into homes, sometimes
four or five a night. Nothing seemed to faze him.

One May night, he was chased out of two houses by homeowners armed with
guns, Barham said. Washington committed three more break-ins later that
night.

"He was unique, the best I've ever seen," Barham said. "To him, it was a
job, except it was 9 to 5 a.m. for him."

Burglary detectives regret they were never able to interview Washington,
to see how he thought and operated.

"He was a cat, and he utilized all his lives," Barham said.

When Washington was shot and killed in the Hickory Hill home of Memphis
Fire Department investigator Christopher Howard, police said Washington
had items he had taken in burglaries earlier that night.

The shooting was ruled a justifiable homicide. Last week, Howard
declined a request for an interview.

Washington's sister said her brother knew he was playing for keeps.

"The game was up," Brenda Word said.

The day before he died, Word said, she had spoken to her brother. "I'd
rather die than go to prison," she said he had told her.

Family members debated whether to turn him in, and now regret they did
nothing, she said.
"I'd rather see him alive in jail than dead," Word said.

Washington's fatalism is not unusual for certain types of criminals,
said Memphis clinical psychologist Dr. John Hutson, who has testified in
dozens of criminal trials and interviewed hundreds of suspects.

Cat burglars are a rare breed, proud of their smarts and ability to
evade capture, Hutson said. They get a kick out of invading the homes of
others, because "there is a thrill factor."

Washington, for instance, preferred going into homes where there were
people. He was not scared of alarms or dogs. He would move slowly in the
houses unless cornered.

But such anti-social males, by the time they get into their 40s and
start to slow down, often think about suicide.

"They think too much of themselves to kill themselves, so they often
find a proxy," Hutson said.

"They want to go out in a blaze of glory."

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