Agricola says it like it is


July 11, 2003, 07:40 PM
Agricola wrote:
CCW is a worrying trend in that one should always be wary of a state telling you you can do something you've (in the US context via the 2A) every right to do in the first place. Would you accept the state giving you a licence to read? Or speak out?

2-volley salute for Agricola!

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July 11, 2003, 08:13 PM
It takes @#&*"# (Well, maybe I should say COURAGE ) to be a real citizen!

Standing Wolf
July 11, 2003, 08:54 PM
How about a ten-day waiting period on the purchase of books and magazines? How about a background check before you buy a television? How about prohibiting selected semi-automatic computers because commoners don't need them, and they could be used to store and disseminate child pornography?

Sir Galahad
July 11, 2003, 09:01 PM
Page limits. Books with too many pages are "assault books" and have too many ideas in them. No bibliography---why does any honest man need to know the sources for the information in a book? Small "Tom Thumb" books should be illegal. It encourages people to conceal books on their person and possibly read in public. And what reading/entertainment purpose is there in reference books? Further, there need to be "book locks", sort of like a barrister's bookcase where the books can be locked up and out of childrens' hands. If kids read, they might not listen to what TeeVee says...

July 11, 2003, 09:46 PM
Hey Micro-

What thread's that on?

David Park
July 13, 2003, 01:09 AM
Agricola is correct if your only two choices are CCW with permit, or unrestricted right to carry. However, in most places in the world today, the choice seems to be between CCW with permit, or no right to carry at all. In that situation, I'll take the permit.

That doesn't mean I believe that I need the permit or that CCW is a privilege granted by the government. I certainly believe the elimination of existing unconstitutional gun laws is a worthy goal. However, I'd rather not go to jail for exercising an "unalienable right" if I can easily avoid it.

In other words, in the absence of a perfect world, I'm glad I live in Virginia and not England.

July 13, 2003, 05:30 PM
Bravo, Ag! That's one in a row. Keep up the good work!:D

July 13, 2003, 09:45 PM
"Would you accept the state giving you a licence to read?"

No, but most of us have accepted the government giving us a license to drive.

My grandparents weren't required to have licenses when they got their first cars. You just bought the car and drove. (And be sure you don't scare the horses.) I'm pretty sure they required licenses by the time my parents started driving.

Must be that slippery slope I keep hearing about.


July 13, 2003, 10:57 PM
Drivers licenses fit in pretty well, we are licensed so that everyone on the road knows how to drive. In reality any idiot can get a license, no one is stuck taking the bus because they could not pass a test, people gain most of their driving skill by themself. Licensing people rarely works.

July 14, 2003, 10:57 PM
I like the background check for the purchase of a TV. There is
more violence on TV than with guns, so it makes more sense
to me.

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