Ok guys this is my first post but I couldnt find a thread like this on here so I figured I would make one.....
Let us know what you carry and let's try to get some pics up also, maybe one of your carry rig, one of it in your pocket and maybe one of just the gun....
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October 9, 2007, 08:18 AM
I voted other because I have a S&W Model 60 .38 Spl. I carry it either in my right front pants pocket, or in the appendix position inside the waistband with an Uncle Mike's IWB holster. I carry this little revolver more than any other gun.
I'm a die-hard right front pocket carrier and have carried a dozen different rigs over the years. Here is just a sample of a few of them:
Smith mod 638 .38 spcl Bodyguard
NAA Mini .22 mag
October 9, 2007, 09:53 AM
You forgot some very popular choices, Bersa Thunders and Makarovs. At least 20% of my students carry them.
October 9, 2007, 10:18 AM
On the rare, and I truly mean rare, instance when I carry in my pocket, I may bring along my Ortgies, or maybe my Glock 19. Truth be told though, I almost always carry in a holster, it is my preferred method of carry. I recently wrote about one reason why I carry in a holster here:
and about how I select a holster here: http://ballseyesboomers.blogspot.com/2007/09/ballseyes-firearms-tactics-and-training.html
I did not mention pocket in a pocket holster, but I will say here I do not like the form of carry because of how long it takes to draw, and how inaccesible is the firearm if you are in certain positions. Pocket carry without a holster is even less preferable than with one because of the potential for forgotten foreign objects in the pocket to interfere or jam or plug up the firearm. I guess I am getting off on anothe rtopic, so enough for it.
How about a "Neck Gun"?
October 9, 2007, 12:07 PM
No pix but I but I've carryed in pocket lots of times. Mdl.37 S&W/bobbed hammer, Charter Undercover DAO, 605 Taurus, SP101 357 DAO, 617 DAO Taurus (back pocket gun kind of heavy) 905 Taurus DAO, Colt Agent/factory shroud, and my "Nose Gun" N.A.A 22 Mag.
October 9, 2007, 12:13 PM
Rohrbaugh R9 9MM or Seecamp LWS380!:eek:
October 9, 2007, 12:22 PM
Springfield Armory EMP or XD9 subcompact
October 9, 2007, 12:36 PM
Beretta 21A in .22LR. Recoil is seen, not felt. Weight loaded... about a pound, give or take an ounce or two. Easy to carry, easy to shoot.
October 9, 2007, 12:37 PM
S&W 642 in a Mika round-cut pocket holster.
October 9, 2007, 12:38 PM
My revolver is a current S&W Model 638-3 and the Kel-Tec is a P-32 chambered in 7.65mm Browning.
Sometimes my Colt Mustang, other times, my S&W Model 649.
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After pocket carrying a P3AT for about 2 1/2 years, I switched to a PF9 a few months ago. It rides in a DeSantis Nemesis.
And out, with a spare magazine in a quickly cobbled together pouch...
October 9, 2007, 10:13 PM
S&W 642. Don't leave home without it. Pocket carried in a Robert Mika round cut holster that is so comfy and unobtrusive that I carry it in my own house, despite living in a very safe neighborhood (you never know).
Yeah guy's sorry I didnt get every model, I tried to put up there what I thought were the most popular guns for pocket carry, I think I will modify the poll the remove the 642 and replace it with a J-Frame Category......if I can
Thanks for all the great pics and info so far, I think this could be very helpful for other people researching CC weapons that prefer pocket carry......
I am actually suprised some people actually picked the Glock 26/27 seems like that thing would be a brick in the pocket since it's so thick.
October 10, 2007, 07:34 AM
Must be a lot of big people wearing those funny shorts with the big pockets to carry all all those J frames that way. Slacks with pleats work very well. Jackets and sports coats also have pockets that can carry a gun, or even be fitted with a leather holster inside.
You don't have to wear tight jeans and a T-shirt all your life. :scrutiny:
I have "J" frames and several small centerfire autos. I find even my PF-9 too large & heavy for my pockets. Even in BDUs the "J" frames are too weighty for comfort. They slap the hell out of my leg when I walk. The P-32 and P3AT are the ones that ride in my pocket. Anything larger goes in a belt or shoulder holster.
FEG SMC-380. PPK clone from Hungary, sweet shooter. Someday I gotta stop bein' lazy and take some pics and learn how to post'em.:D
Kevin in Pa
October 10, 2007, 10:43 AM
I carry a Bersa Thunder .380 in an DeSantis IWB holster which has a pocket for an extra mag. I also have a pocket holster but it doesn't work well for me I think my pockets are too big and the holster and gun comes out.
Nice P232, I have the same gun, but do you really use it for pocket carry? It is way to big for my pockets, unless I'm wearing cargo pants. I believe the P232 is probably the finest 380 pistol made.
October 10, 2007, 02:04 PM
Yep, front left pocket with just regular Levis, cross draw, being a right-hand shooter, in an Uncle Mikes IWB # 1 with T-shirt out, or light shirt. Same for my EMP 9mm. Granted, the grips are not down in the pocket, but flush.
Very comfy, no paint what so ever.
October 10, 2007, 02:42 PM
How about the Colt Mustang?
I have a Colt Pony Pocketlite. I don't carry it much anymore because I'm not a big fan of the .380
This thread brings up an important question for me... What brand of "business casual" pants has the deepest front pockets?
I currently wear Wrangler Riatas when dressed in business casual. However, when I sit down, the butt of the grip on my Colt Cobra is sometimes slightly visible. That's not good!
My Colt rides in a Desantis Nemesis pocket holster. It works great when standing, walking, etc. I just have to be careful when sitting.
Has anyone had a similar experience? What brand of pants might be better? Cargo pants are not an option.
October 10, 2007, 04:34 PM
Texas Colt, I find that pleated dockers have nice deep heavy pockets and the pleats also work well to cover up any printing........that what I wear in the office mon-thursday wrangler carpenter jeans on friday
October 10, 2007, 04:46 PM
I reckon I should have mentioned that being a lean, tall Texan makes it a little more difficult. I need either a 31x36 or 32x36 size and Dockers doesn't even make 'em! :banghead:
October 10, 2007, 04:53 PM
October 10, 2007, 04:57 PM
That's what we call 4X4 ground clearance!
October 10, 2007, 06:55 PM
This is the one I find myself carrying all the time... In Texas, during summer, it gets hot. There is a difference to me between CHL weapon and SD, HD, SHTF weapons... I carry a North american Arms .22 and neck knife, the .25 pictured, a knife in my back pocket, a boot knife and knife disguissed as a pen... I never have to worry about "printing" or anything because the guns are so small and all of the other weapons are reasonably "hidden" and most people don't freak out when they see a knife anyway...
If it is cooler weather, I strap on my Glock or my .45... but unless it is cold, I have a hard time concealing anything bigger than the .25 and .22
I stole the picture from gunbroker... :) But I have one just like it.
What brand of "business casual" pants has the deepest front pockets?
Dockers, IME. Pockets are about as deep as my trenchcoat... and I can pocket-carry a 1911 in that.
October 11, 2007, 07:31 AM
Since a few are wondering how some of us can pocket carry a J-frame, this is how I do it. I wear Wrangler jeans exclusively, even in the summer I rarely wear shorts, I just don't really care for shorts, but I don't see why it wouldn't work with shorts as long as they are well constructed. Using an Uncle Mike's IWB holster clipped to my right front pocket with an untucked t-shirt conceals just fine for me, and it is also fairly comfortable unless I am sitting for long periods. If I am sitting for long periods, then I'll appendix carry mostly, but sometimes I'll carry crossdraw.
Here is my S&W M60 carried as described. The slight bulge in the watch pocket is my speedloader, it fits perfectly in there, and it seems to help keep the gun from shifting in the pocket.
Here I have simply pulled my shirt down to cover it up. As you can see, it basically disappears. Dark colors, like the black t-shirt I am wearing, or patterned shirts aid with concealment.
October 11, 2007, 09:40 AM
M1-shooter: clever idea. Since I very seldom wear jeans, I usually pocket-carry my NAA .22 Mag mini in that case.
Normally, I'll wear docker-style pleated front pants. With an Uncle Mike's size 3 pocket holster, I can drop the J-frame down into my right front pocket and it is undetectable. Only if I squat or sit down do I have to be somewhat careful. Most people aren't looking at your pockets anyway or at least they shouldn't be!:D
October 11, 2007, 09:45 AM
The ultimate in "horsepower-to-weight ratio"
S&W 340 SC .357 mag, 12 oz
October 11, 2007, 09:46 AM
Ain't it purdy?
Taurus Ultralite Mod 85 with rosewood grips.
October 11, 2007, 09:54 AM
If that works for you than thats all that is important. The only time my pocket gun becomes primary is when I have to wear a tucked in shirt. If I can wear something untucked than I will have my G23 with 16 rounds of 40 cal. then the pocket gun usually becomes secondary. This is a good discussion with a lot of different ideas.
For the poster above with the Sundance. Have you actually shot that thing? My dad had one, think he paid $30 for it and it was a jamb o matic. Hope you have and that it works for you.
October 11, 2007, 12:02 PM
My main problem with pocket carry is, I have yet to find anything that feels right and it makes me a lot more self conscious. Even my Baby Browning or Seecamp feel like they are standing right out, even though I know they probably arent. I find it easier to carry a P229 or Combat Commander IWB, than a J frame or P230 in my pocket. I also find that its harder to get to whatever's in my pocket, especially if I'm sitting, and I can actually get to my Seecamp in its Smart Carry easier than if its in my pocket.
Something else that tends to make me shy from it is what I call "Skoal Ring" syndrome. My buddy has always carried his Walther TPH in a small pocket holster in his right front pocket. It doesnt take long for the TPH "ring" to start to show up in the pants he wears a lot. Anyone else who carries this way on a daily basis ever notice this?
The other issue I have is, I usually dont have a free pocket. I got to much other junk on me to dedicate a pocket to a gun. :)
I understand we all have different dress codes and situations and we need to adapt what works best for us as individuals. I'm not a "Dockers" type person, and where I work, they probably wouldnt last a week. The only pleats I see are on my wifes skirts. :)
I do own and occasionally use a couple of 642's and a few other J frames. Mostly they either ride in an ankle holster or outer coat pocket in cold weather. I find them a little to big to fit my pants pockets, as they usually wont go completely in.
Speaking of coat pocket carry, does anyone know of a pocket holster made specifically for that type carry? The standard pocket holsters dont work very well, as they position the gun wrong, especially for the draw. It would be nice to have a holster for my jacket or fleece that helps distribute the weight and position the grip so its in the right place when I reach for it.
October 11, 2007, 03:26 PM
I know you are a Sig man. Have you every checked out the Sig Tac jackets with the velcro pouches? I wear one in the winter and find that it does the job nicely.
October 11, 2007, 03:33 PM
What about this antique I saw today on GA.
To be fair, its not a pocket gun, its a palm gun, but I believe it'll fit in your pocket just fine.
I've eyed them up before, just never got to see one in person. I have something like this for work that has internal adjustable velcro holsters and carriers. It's just a tad bright for everything else. :) Its also a little slow to get at things when your zipped up.
I guess what I'm looking for is a pocket holster with a cant that sits on about a 45, instead of a vertical 90, so the grip is presented at the angle your hand is as it goes into the pocket.
I've been looking for one that nice in .32acp. So far, I'm still looking.
October 11, 2007, 04:50 PM
From Cabelas, the Trail-Hiker has deep pockets, and small pocket strong side for righty without the "tactical look" of the 5.11 pants. My cell phone typically lives in the little pocket as "cover" for the pocket BUG.
I try to keep a couple pair in good shape for Business Casual wear. After that they become Weekend Casual but still do the job in the right setting.
With a Desantis Nemesis, I've carried something as large as a G-30 front pocket, although most pocket days it's a G-26 or Kahr PM9.
The key I've found to pocket carry:
- Practice, I dry fire from pocket religiously (Also have an Airsoft G26 which is handy).
- Familiarity, after a while I got used to it and the self-consciousness went away so I don't project a "I hope they don't notice the gun in my pocket" presence.
- Discipline, something as large as a G-26 can shift and an open pocket can allow for a peak from behind. I find an excuse to put hands in both pockets as if looking for change/keys to maintain appropriate orientation.
- The right gun in the right clothes for the right situation
- Understand the trade-offs...you aren't likely to be doing <1 second draws from the pocket, even if you have an advanced grip.
- Pocket carry draws require adaptation in the draw. Regardless of how much practice, I can't guarantee that there will not have been a shift, or my body angle may be awkward at time of draw, or that the angle to threat may require a disengagement movement which would make the draw imperfect. I've practiced RECOVERY and can feel if I'm up too high in the pocket or too low and can make the draw adjustments quickly.
- It's not hip carry with a holster, it's a compromise of concealment vs. availability.
A slack worth considering is the Columbia Landry. I little cargo look, but not much. Has a nice secondary pocket behind the normal front pocket which then really breaks up any carry lines. Zippered for enhanced security when and if required. Readily available for $29.