IED Threat in your hometown


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trueblue1776
October 9, 2007, 10:52 AM
Heres a good one, city cops bought a new IED resistant SWAT truck. I don't know why they need it in Cali, .50 cals are banned now. ;)

Have a good chuckle to start the day.

http://videos.modbee.com/vmix_hosted_apps/video/1522653

BTW: It adds to the hilarity that Modesto is a dopey little farming community that gets a few commuter residents from the S.F. Bay area.

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TexasRifleman
October 9, 2007, 10:54 AM
Must have had some leftover cash from the money made during the Scott Peterson thing.....

Don't think anyone had really even heard of Modesto before that.

Insane.

trueblue1776
October 9, 2007, 10:55 AM
Don't worry, it's all paid for by those fascist cigarette smokers. :D

Geno
October 9, 2007, 11:02 AM
Modesto, heck, I'm still trying to figure out the California part. I think that's one of the former states...you know, the whole behind the iron curtain concept? :D

IED-resistent vehicles? Either the powers-that-be aren't telling us something that they should be telling us, or someone has way too much time and money on their hands.

QuickDraw
October 9, 2007, 11:03 AM
Actually,Modesto is/was one of the fastest growing city's in the bay area.
It had(I don't know about now) cheap housing.Commuters from S.F.,San
Jose and all over the bay area were/are flocking there.
I know they have a huge gang/illegal population,but come on,a bomb
proof truck?:what:
Sheesh!:rolleyes:

TexasRifleman
October 9, 2007, 11:05 AM
someone has way too much time and money on their hands.

Oh I think that's CLEARLY what's going on here LOL

yesit'sloaded
October 9, 2007, 11:06 AM
Maybe it's so the ********** SS can look cool when they ride around looking for those illegal rifles that can knock a plane right out of the sky and kill every firstborn child in a twelve mile radius.

ilcylic
October 9, 2007, 11:07 AM
IED-resistent vehicles? Either the powers-that-be aren't telling us something that they should be telling us

Things like "The sandbox is operating as a marvelous training ground for irregular combatants"?

And I'm not even talking about for foreigners.

How many members of the current U.S. Army in Iraq and Afghanistan are "former" gang members, who still retain some affection for their old loyalty groups? We've seen full blown police officers in Los Angeles who have retained their ties. It's not impossible to think that there are people in the Army with similar hometown loyalties. And now they have experience with IEDs. It's certainly a tool I can see as being useful to the gang warfare arsenal.

trueblue1776
October 9, 2007, 11:07 AM
Quickdraw, it's 80 miles due east of Oakland, hardly in the bay area.

jerkface11
October 9, 2007, 11:20 AM
They obviously took a cue from the Boston PD and are preparing for a Mooninite invasion.

El Tejon
October 9, 2007, 11:55 AM
true, everything within a 200 miles (or more) is the "Bay Area", at least the Chambers of Commerce think so.:D

It's a hick town with money left over in the budget. What are they going to do? Send it back?:D If a policicrat sends money back, then it is very hard to justify a budget increase next year. Thus, they buy goofy toys to play with.

Modesto PD=>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z9WjLywgLM

bogie
October 9, 2007, 12:05 PM
Just remember that there are a LOT of folks who are hoping for a "home grown terrorism" incident that they can blame on far-right folks... Remember those gun nuts at Waco?

alucard0822
October 9, 2007, 12:21 PM
I think they read one too many "what vehicle for zombies" threads:D

and if the fact that they can spare a few officers for a road trip to and from Boston to "save" 10 grand is any indication, I don't think they will have to bust this thing out all that often.

assuming only 2 officers went on the 3000 mi trip:

$1300 2 one way airline tickets to Boston

$1700 for 600gal diesel fuel (assuming full size armored car like 5mi/gal )

$400 5 days worth of hotels

$250 in meals under "travel expenses"

$100 in "other" travel expenses (laundry, maps and so on)

$150 pair of Red Sox tickets, some peanuts and a couple suds (hey, afterall, how often do modesto cops get out to Fenway)

$1500 in premature vehicle scheduled maintenence

$1250 in overtime to cover gaps in shift

$2000 in pay for 1 week wages not spent "serving and protecting"

saving taxpayers $1550 in the delivery costs of a $100,000 truck Priceless.:D

SVT93
October 9, 2007, 12:51 PM
Well I want one of those!

DoubleTapDrew
October 9, 2007, 01:07 PM
If I had a nickel for every IED that's blown up a cop's cruiser in Modesto...
Just out of curiosity how do you use those gun ports? Start firing and walk your shots in? That's an awesome tactic in residential areas.

It's not impossible to think that there are people in the Army with similar hometown loyalties. And now they have experience with IEDs. It's certainly a tool I can see as being useful to the gang warfare arsenal.
That's a good point, but aren't the majority of the IED's the troops are facing constructed from Soviet-era bombs that apparently are pretty plentiful in the sandbox? AFAIK they are a little harder to come by stateside, and we don't seem to have outright attacks and ambushes on the police or other gangs besides your occasional drive-by (convoys?)

trueblue1776
October 9, 2007, 01:27 PM
It's not impossible to think that there are people in the Army with similar hometown loyalties. And now they have experience with IEDs. It's certainly a tool I can see as being useful to the gang warfare arsenal.

I disagree, Jihadi/thug tactics have little in common with the goals of street crime (low profile, make money). I served in central and s. America, I haven't rts'ed (rattrap-shotgun) anyone in years :D.

woodybrighton
October 9, 2007, 02:04 PM
does'nt look that ied resistant no v shaped hull or anything
more use than a snatch but thats not actually saying much :uhoh:
sort of just in case thing bit pointless have all the swat in a minibus

armoredman
October 9, 2007, 02:10 PM
Standard Bear, nothing real impressive.

ilbob
October 9, 2007, 02:13 PM
why not just go whole hog and issue every cop a tactical nuke?

Titan6
October 9, 2007, 04:39 PM
Demand creates supply. Just ask any economist. The interesting thing here is that they have not needed this thing yet...

I don't think the issue is gang-bangers either, whatever the police may say. Gangs don't target police out of hand. They are targets of opportuinty and certainly if they get in the way or cross them on a back room deal but generally they leave the police alone because the police will kill them if they get the chance.

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