[kestak]

Greetings,

I got my Star B from Aim yesterday. It is in very good condition. There was just some wear on the sights and a little surface scratch on the right side of the barrel. Everything got fixed after a thorough cleanup of the cosmoline in 10 minutes with a little touch up with cold blue.

One small thing I noticed is the trigger. The pull is lighter than my Taurus .357magnum when I shoot it in single action (hammer pulled back then hit the trigger). I understand it has been rebuilt by the Soviets and all that is related to part swappings...hehehe.

One big thing I have an issue with and here I need your help: The safety lever. behind the safety lever, there is a small spring and it catch into 2 notches on the safety lever flat part along the gun frame. Sometimes, it stucks, sometimes it is too easy to move it and when I half cock, then pull back to full cock, the safety goes off (I understand it is normal) but the trigger is still stuck. If I pull it down, the hammer goes off back to half cock sometimes and hit the firing pin some other times.

Anyone has a solution about that poorly designed safety?

And no, I won't remove it. I know it shoots perfectly without the safety pin or the spring, but I would like to fix it myself if I can. If not, the gun will visit my favorite gunsmith.

Thank you

[Big Az Al]

This bocks the hammer only even pushs it a little off the sear so the sear doesn't get caught out of battery and blocked there by the hammer.

If you pull the trigger with the safety on and the trigger sticks back you have a trigger problem that needs to be fixed ASAP!

And for that safety spring that is under the safety lever, in the hammer pin, this needs to have a PLUNGER or it will not work 100percent.

[kestak]

Greetings,

So... Is it better I return the gun to AimSurplus and ask for an exchange?

Thank you

[Big Az Al]

kestak

Everything got fixed after a thorough cleanup of the cosmoline


if there is cosomoline in the frame and around around the trigger that could make the trigger sticky.

Would you be comfortable taking the trigger out, takning the trigger apart, completely cleaning , deburring and maybe replacing the trigger spring?

If your not talk to a smith and have him fix it or return it

[kestak]

Greetings,

I can take the trigger parts apart. I'll do that and clean them. However, I think more the trigger issue is related to the safety lever. Let' me try to describe what it does again:
- I half cock the hammer
- I put on the safety lever
- I full cock the hammer, the safety lever goes down (revealing the red button on the frame)
- Sometimes, when I pull the trigger, the hammer goes down.
- Sometimes, the trigger does not move at all. So, I pull down a little bit the safety lever then the hammer drops right away sometimes half cock, sometimes it hit the firing pin.

I checked with the spring behind the safety lever. There is no plunger. How would it work if I take a needle (You know, the one you have when you buy a button shirt), cut it, insert it into the spring then see if it work? My other question is how long should it be? Flush with the frame, flush to the end of the depression in the safety lever or in the middle?

Finally, I mentionned how sensible is the trigger. it is like 1 pound! Not that I do not like that...:evil: I was just saying a comment that it is certainly not a carry weapon and at the range I'll have to be darn careful.

Thank you

[Jim K]

That safety is not poorly designed, it is actually a very good design. But Big Al is right, it needs a plunger in there, not just the spring. The hammer should not be able to be cocked from the half-cock position.

Now on the trigger pull. One pound is certainly too light and dangerous. Whether you return it or try to work on it yourself is up to you, but I suspect one or more broken parts and think it would be best to call the seller, tell them what is wrong and they might spring for return shipping.

Jim

[Big Az Al]

The Star safety does not have a half cock position, the hammer has to be cocked for the safety to engage, at halfcock there is no engagement, the safety may move but there is no place for it to go that is why it only moves a little bit.

the star safeties that I have worked with only block the hammer, and like I said earlier when the safety engages, it pushs the hammer up off the sear, the trigger and sear can move thru their full length of travel while the safety is on, as long as the trigger is released and the sear returns to be able to engage the hammer the pistol is working right.

[kestak]

Greetings,

I was able to solve the issue! Yay!

I did look all around and found on the ground through the carpet fiber (doh!) the plunger. I installed it and I cleaned thoroughly the trigger assembly. Everything is now working fine except the trigger is still very light. Frankly, I don't mind too much because I'll use that gun only at the range for fun and behind glass to admire. :)

Thank you

[Jim K]

Hi, Al,

Maybe there are variations, but the Star B safeties I have seen do engage at half cock and at that point prevent the hammer from being drawn to full cock. (The half cock notch in the hammer prevents the trigger from being pulled at the half cock.)

The Star safety does not operate at the front like the M1911 type, but at the back. You can see, at the back of the hammer, where the safety engages. IMHO, that kind of safety is better than the 1911 sear-block type. It does not require close fitting, it prevents a blow to the hammer from damaging the sear or hammer notch, and it positively blocks hammer fall. The fact that the trigger is not blocked is irrelevant. Essentially, it is like the Mauser rifle safety which cams the cocking piece off the sear.


Hi, Kestak,

To keep from having the same thing happen again, try getting a small pair of pliers and pinching the end coil on that spring just a little. Then you can force the tail of the plunger into it and the plunger won't jump out the next time you remove the safety.

Jim

[kestak]

Jim,

It is exactly what I did when I found out the plunger yesterday. I "stuck" it up with the spring.

Thank you