[Texoma]

Could you take a new SS remmie 58 put a cartridge conversion cylinder in it and shoot modern smokeless loads in it? What if any difference would there be
in stainless steels used in these guns versus modern guns cartridge guns?

[Novus Collectus]

As far as 58 Remmies using conversion cylinders, there are three important things to know.
Only use in steel framed revolvers.
Only use cowboy loads.
Only use all lead bullets.

The R&D cylinder will not honor a warranty on a cylinder used to shoot handloads or unaproved ammo. They only approve two commercial cowboy action ammo, one is BP and the other is smokeless.
If you don't care about the warranty, you can reload with smokeless powder as long as you keep the pressure and MV to within cowboy action equivalents. You can also reload your own blackpowder loads if you want to.


You can use the cylinders in brass framed revolvers, but they will get beat to hell real fast.

You can theoretically use jacketed bullets, but your barrell is way to soft and it will abuse the hell out of your rifling as well as maybe your conversion cylinder.

I am willing to bet the same rules apply to stainless steel remmies.

[ArmedBear]

You cannot use modern loads. You can use smokeless loads, but not loaded up to modern specs.

Those cylinder walls are pretty thin.

Note that Uberti now makes a replica "conversion" with both cylinders and an ejector included as well as the loading lever. It has a forged frame. Most existing replicas, including Ubertis, have cast frames.

[BigBlock]

I've wondered that myself, the one thing I can think of is the metal between the chambers seems really thin in the .44 calibers. As far as I know; however, you CAN use regular .38 special loads with a .36 conversion cylinder, but you have to use hollow base bullets because bore is slightly larger.

There is a company in england that converts them to use smokeless powder but still remain muzzleloading. They don't list what kind of power it has on their website though. And I think they charge around $1000 for this...

[Novus Collectus]

http://westlakeengineering.com/4640/4694.html?*session*id*key*=*session*id*val*

I emailed him last week. If someone in the states wanted him to convert their revolver for them, there has to be UK import and export licenses gotten and with shipping included it would be pretty expensive.

A thousand bucks sounds about what I would wildly guess too because it is about $600 without shipping and import/export.

[BigBlock]

Note that Uberti now makes a replica "conversion" with both cylinders and an ejector included as well as the loading lever. It has a forged frame. Most existing replicas, including Ubertis, have cast frames.

Got anymore info on that? I can't find it on Uberti's website. Who sells 'em?

[LEE3370]

Try Taylor's for the conversion revolver.

http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/products/cfRemingtonConversion.tpl

The new issue of "Guns of the Old West" has a good write up on it.
Lee

[ArmedBear]

BigBlock:

http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/Conversions/58NewModArmyConv.htm

http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/Conversions/images/58NewModArmyConv.jpg

A dealer that sells them: http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/2,334.html