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MrBill120
October 14, 2007, 09:22 PM
Do all Gander Mountains have the same prices on their firearms?
I was in one today and noticed that some of their prices had gone up...Stoeger Coach gun was $299 now its $349....they were even asking $799 for the Taurus PT 1911 w/ night sights! (even the clerk was floored!!)

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evan price
October 14, 2007, 09:30 PM
GM seems to think their guns are very special indeed.

USED Glock 22 for $599?

USED Bersa Thunder .380 for $299?

USED Sig P229 for $799?

USED Mossberg 500 for $279?

Does anybody ever pay those prices? I could get NEW versions at the local gun shop for as much or less.

average_shooter
October 14, 2007, 09:38 PM
There's a Gander Mtn. near me with a Sportsman's Warehouse literally across the street. SW gets much more of my business and has much better prices. Gander mountain even priced their reloading components at least $10 higher than SW.

Shipwreck
October 14, 2007, 09:38 PM
I have seen about 15-20 Gander Mountain threads between all the gun forums lately - and they are all neg.

I've seen a PS90 for $2100. They want $1299 for a Five Seven pistol - I paid $779 for mine. Who's gonna pay $500 extra!

I will admit that there is a used SW99 that looks brand new for $359 at my local Gander - only decent priced gun they have in there. And, it was $550 until 2 weeks ago.

finnerandr
October 14, 2007, 09:48 PM
I have yet to see a decent priced gun of any type in our local Gander Mountain. I dont know how they can stay in business. Even their used gun prices are way higher than the price of a brand new gun at another shop in the area. I was looking at a used CZ75b, and it was $110 higher than I ended up paying brand new! I swore right then and there that I would never set foot in that store ever again!

RNB65
October 14, 2007, 10:00 PM
The best advice I can give on Gander Mountain is to leave the store immediately and buy elsewhere. GM stores make for great eye candy, but their prices are a joke.

greg531mi
October 14, 2007, 10:31 PM
I bought a couple of guns there....Got to go to their sales, and shop....
Otherwise, I saw a pound of W296 for $29.95 today!!! Ammo, way too high, compared to competiors, and guns aren't cheap either....

lanternlad1
October 14, 2007, 10:52 PM
I used to love the used gun rack at Gander. Now the guns there are at least $100.00 above the nearest competitors.

MikePGS
October 14, 2007, 11:05 PM
They have an odd formula they use to determine the price of a used gun. I think its something like MSRP (which as far as i know, no one pays) divided in half, and then they add 30 percent or something. It seems to make used glocks frequently only 10 dollars less valuable than brand new ones :D. I haven't tried to buy anything from them, but i know they have price matching on new guns, and i assume theres some wiggle room with the used ones.

Nil
October 14, 2007, 11:06 PM
The only deal I ever see at Gander Mountain are Mosin-Nagants for less than $100. It's still a bit more expensive than you can find online but as these already have the cosmoline cleaned off, I think that's worth the extra $20-30.

Fburgtx
October 14, 2007, 11:16 PM
I've got a few good deals on used guns from GM, but it seems as if those days are over. Their new prices seem WAY high and their used prices have gotten worse, esp. in the last 3-6 months. I don't know what's up with the management of this company, but they need to get their act together FAST! I make it a point to avoid the local Cabela's on Sat/Sun because the place is an absolute madhouse. Go to a GM on the weekend, and it's an absolute ghost-town.

Their business model is just all wrong. They're too big/have too much inventory to survive with such paltry foot-traffic, and they're too small to be a "destination" like Cabela's. They're like a Sportsman's warehouse, but with more inventory and less traffic.

I wouldn't mind the high prices so much if they were Mom/Pop, but I'm not going to pay those prices at a store that should have volume pricing like a chain should (and is staffed by Mom/Pop's mentally challenged teenage offspring).

I really think there are some folks (MBA's) with this company who HOPE they do poorly so that talks of a sale of the corporation will lift the stock price. Apparently, they must think there is more profit in that than in running a retail business that sells stuff in any kind of volume.

I realize that Cabela's prices are somewhat inflated, too. However, if you have their Visa card, they routinely send out coupons that will knock $50 of a $200 sale, or $100 off a $500 sale. My prediction is that GM will not last more than another couple of years if they don't change their ways soon.

Deaf Smith
October 14, 2007, 11:22 PM
Walther P-38s, ex police trade-ins for $299 ain't bad at all. Sig 225, ex-police trade-ins (P6s) for $350 ain't bad either (especially if you get to pick through them all and find those with very little outside and inside wear.

But 99 percent of their gun prices are just rediculous. I mean smoken crack prices.

Owens
October 14, 2007, 11:33 PM
GM in Lubbock,TX:
WAY high on used FA. Not bad on some ammo. Not all ammo. Don't remember specifics, so not posting them.

Added 10/17: Glock model 17 $529 (used)

Geronimo45
October 14, 2007, 11:40 PM
Their prices used to be pretty decent. Not as cheap as Bud's, but not bad either. I think their little 'Warranty Plan' that seems to be included in all gun purchases has been put into the price.
Still, I managed to get a Beretta 21A for a decent rate.

As for ammo... some of their HP loads are a dollar per round. For handgun ammunition. Rifle ammunition (for everything not .223 or 7.62x39) seems to go for a dollar per round, too.

damien
October 14, 2007, 11:50 PM
For the last two weeks, the Gander Mountain in Geneva has a used Kel Tec .380 priced HIGHER than a new one. Nothing special about the used one, no after market parts or extra mags. That blew my mind. I suspect it is still there.

I did an informal survey of prices in the Chicagoland area two weeks ago. Gander Mountain had the worst prices on new guns. On used guns, it is just random! The pricing above on the Kel Tec is just stupid. But I got a Beretta 84 (blue) that was in very nice condition for $279 - at the store in Joliet. A guy showed me a new-looking Taurus 817 (the 7-shot snubnosed .38 special, in blue) that he bought a few days prior and was picking up. The price he got it for was $160! Not too long I saw the Geneva store selling a Ruger SP101 in immaculate condition for $249 and thought that was a pretty fine deal but passed because I already own one.

So I check them out on used guns.

They want $1299 for a Five Seven pistol - I paid $779 for mine. Who's gonna pay $500 extra!

I saw that too, at Geneva. I have one that I bought from G.A.T. Guns for $899, not as good of a price as yours, but way better than Gander. It came with 3 mags, I don't know if that made a difference or not.

CajunBass
October 14, 2007, 11:51 PM
I've bought a few guns at the local GM. Sometimes their prices are good. Sometimes they're not. I buy when they are, and when they're not, I don't.

Seems simple to me.

damien
October 15, 2007, 12:10 AM
Just looked through my receipts. Two other used purchases from Gander Mountain:

S&W 67 adjustible sights, stainless, old style hammer (no transfer bar) 4", $239. (Rockford) - looks just like the one on this page: http://www.lesjones.com/posts/003495.shtml

Beretta Cougar .45 Trijicon Night Sights, $339. (Geneva)

Both in super nice shape.

rockinrussky
October 15, 2007, 12:14 AM
Gander Mountain opened over in my area in just the last two weeks. First of all, I'm all for competition in the business field but it opened literally down the street from the current biggest gun/sporting store in the whole greater Richmond area(Green Top) and we only had 3 real gun stores to being with. I get the impression that they're not exactly there to meet the additional demand. Anywho... Having gone in there their prices really are ridiculous. Their Taurus 1911 for ex (w/nightsights) was $849:what: There was a Kimber laying next to it on display for that exact same price. In general the prices on most firearms was pretty bad. The ammo selection and prices was kind of a hit or miss. I don't think my local mom and pop stores are going anywhere.

rockinrussky
October 15, 2007, 12:20 AM
Just to top this off (a little off topic) I was there with a friend who has a real interest in buying his first handgun ('twas a once special time in all our lives:rolleyes:). We tried to get some help so he could handle some of their handguns and see how they felt etc. Not only did we receive no help after a whole hour of standing and looking, but even when we asked for it the clerk kinda mumbled something and just walked off. So yea... sorry to put a place down like this but I'm just not impressed with the GM here. The Wal Mart attitude without the Wal Mart prices.

JAG2955
October 15, 2007, 12:33 AM
Gander can be hit or miss. If you like mil-surps, it's kind of like looking at Frankenstein sometimes.

For example:
The 1898 Krag that needed to be re-blued and wedged into a Winchester model 70 stock: Only $600

Or the cream of the crop:
An M1 Garand that had its bolt chromed, and put into a full-length mannlicher stock complete with decorative plastic diamond shape. The iron sights were removed, and generic ultra-ultra-high rings were installed. A real steal at only $1099

MinnMooney
October 15, 2007, 02:05 AM
My son & I were just talking about the "New" GM prices the other day so I stopped in was shocked to see the reloader items that went up in price.
A 100ct box of Nosler C/T Ballistic SilverTip 55gr bullets used to be $15 but now were $21! It's not just the reloading supplies, either, but the rifles & pistols prices sky-rocketed, also.
Even Cabela's is lookin' good!

rantingredneck
October 15, 2007, 05:41 AM
They seem to change their prices faster than I change my underwear and usually the change is in the upward direction. I've only ever bought one firearm from there and it was one of their advertised specials. That's about the only way you're gonna get a deal from them. Usually their stuff is way over priced compared to my local shops around here in the Triad area of NC.

CajunBass
October 15, 2007, 07:23 AM
I don't think my local mom and pop stores are going anywhere.

A couple of months ago, someone was telling me that they were building a GM "right next to Greentops. I guess they'll put Greentops out of business."

It was all I could do not to laugh out loud. Yea, I've bought a few guns from them, but they're not going to put any half competently run business under, that's for sure.

My favorite GM price story. They (the Fredericksburg store) had a used Ruger MK II, NRA endowment edition in the case last year. Someone had rubbed white crayon in all the rollmarking. Looked really nice on the dark gun, with the white plastic grips. They only wanted $599.00 for it. :what: It was a "rare" gun the clerk told me while rolling his eyes. (This guy and I are pretty good friends. He was about to bust out laughing too.)

I had bought one just like it, without the crayon, at the same store, three months before, for $219.00. (Wish I'd bought a couple of them.)

Man, those things went up fast. :D

cpttango30
October 15, 2007, 07:26 AM
Mine had a used Lorcin 380 for $229.:what:

phantomak47
October 15, 2007, 08:43 AM
In Houston, I often see people who don't seem to know much about firearms buying their first or second gun.

how about a Kimber 84 for $3,500 or a Glock for $600?

Maybe we should write their general managers and let them know that they are missing sales because of their crazy prices.

usp9
October 15, 2007, 08:56 AM
I don't think anyone is giving away free guns. Gander Mtn. has some good deals and some good sales from time to time, just like any retailer. To single them out is inaccurate at best. I like them because they carry a wide range of guns and a large selection of accessories. That comes at a cost. I've found some very good deals at my local G.M.

baz
October 15, 2007, 09:01 AM
I'm turned off by Gander Mountain because -- at least in the case of the one here == they've started posting against CCW. They've always had a sign about "checking in" firearms brought in the store for gunsmith service; the sign used to make clear that it didn't cover CCW. Now they've changed it so that CCW is clearly prohibited.

If they don't trust CCW holders, why should they buy from them?

Fisherman_48768
October 15, 2007, 09:05 AM
I stopped in the GM store in Saginaw last week to see if they would match Dick's Ammo sales. Dick's coupon was for 1/2 off second box of "all ammo" salesman said they couldn't do it because the GM scanner couldn't read the coupon, I said whats to read the dam thing says half off 2nd all ammo then turned around and left. Went to Dicks and bought some ammo, funny thing is they didn't even try to scan the coupon just gave me the discount and threw the coupon into the trash. I thought that GM would meet any competitors price if they were within 50 miles. About the only thing I ever buy at a GM store is whats on closeout.

dleong
October 15, 2007, 09:10 AM
GM used to have good deals. Some years back, I picked up two NIB CZ 40Bs for $250 apiece, and then a CZ 40P for the same price. All three were on sale at the time. I consider those the best deals I've ever encountered on new firearms.

Then I noticed their prices started to float upwards considerably, and I stopped going there altogether. Last week, though, a friend wanted me to accompany him to go buy his first ever handgun (he wanted a 40S&W Walther P99 AS, after having shot mine), and one of the places we stopped at was the local GM.

They wanted $750 for a NIB P99. The prices of their other firearms were equally ludicrous. Needless to say, we walked out of the store in a jiffy.

sm
October 15, 2007, 12:03 PM
What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week - which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.

Captain as played by Strother Martian. Cool Hand Luke, 1967

Ghost Tracker
October 15, 2007, 12:17 PM
The folks who set Gun Prices at GM aren't Gun Guys. A friend who worked the counter at a local Gunshop for years recently took the job managing the Gun Counter at our new, mega-store GM. He commented (lamented) that the "corporate office" decision-makers & price-setters weren't very attuned to the gun buyer or the gun market. But experienced, savvy gun-buyers aren't their primary market. They're selling to Mall-Shoppers...not Gun Shop Regulars like most of us.

ilbob
October 15, 2007, 12:21 PM
I bought a P1 from them last year. I thought the price was fair. Came with holster and 2 mags.

Have also bought some ammo there. No bargains, but not outrageously higher than other stores in the area.

I think they have a pricing structure that is based on selling at the highest price the market will bear. I don't have a problem with that. If enough people shop elsewhere, their prices will drop.

My understanding is they will meet the price a competitor's price on new guns.

Docgmt
October 15, 2007, 12:44 PM
I got a good price on an M&P from GM but just bought a DPMS for $839 and then stopped at the new GM in Richmond and saw the exact same AR for $1059 so it still goes the the buyer to beware.

RNB65
October 15, 2007, 12:52 PM
A buddy of mine bought a KT PF9 last weekend. His compared prices and found the following:

DeGoffs $289
Green Top $329
Gander Mountain $369

Apparently, GM thinks that Central Virginians are really, really stupid. Really.

ilbob
October 15, 2007, 12:57 PM
A buddy of mine bought a KT PF9 last weekend. His compared prices and found the following:

DeGoffs $289
Green Top $329
Gander Mountain $369

Apparently, GM thinks that Central Virginians are really, really stupid. Really.
There are a lot of retail stores that are not real competitive on their prices. There is a gas station down the road from where I work. They are normally 10 cents higher then the station down the street. I just don't buy gas there as i can get it down the street for ten cents a gallon less (plus for 3 months I get a 15% rebate if I use their CC).

My wife goes to Michaels (craft store). Their prices are insane. You can buy most of what they have at WalMart for 25-50% less. They sell regular Sharpie pens for 3X what a normal office supply or WalMart store charges. She mostly buys stuff there that is not readily available elsewhere or when she has a good coupon.

Whirlwind06
October 15, 2007, 02:28 PM
Used RIA 45 $399
New Kel-Tec P11 $339-349 (paid $279 in January 07 at the same store.)

I have seen some good deals on the used stuff but the new prices are pretty crazy. I bought a pound of AA #7 and the sticker on it said $21.95 it rang up at $27-28. I showed the price tag and they adjusted the price for me. That was about a month ago I pretty sure the new price is on all of the powder now.

springmom
October 15, 2007, 02:44 PM
It's a mixed bag. I went in today looking for .38 spl. bullets for reloading for target practice. They didn't have any. :uhoh: Had Speer Gold Dots (nice to know when I'm wanting to reload SD ammo, but that wasn't what I was there for). They didn't have a primer attachment for my reloader either. So I had them order one.... almost two weeks and still waiting.....

OTOH, when I bought my first handgun, they were brand new in the area, and they had the best price by about $40 on it, so they got my business. When I wanted a snubbie, they were the ones that had a few of those m37's that were made a couple of years ago without the internal lock...and I got one. Nobody else around had them. They had the best price by almost $100 for my Kimber Ultra Carry II when I bought it. They're outrageous on Henry Big Boys, so we bought one online for Archerandshooter...and my Bersa Ultra Compact came from Academy, who was much cheaper than either Carter's Country or GM.

So it's hit or miss. If they weren't meeting a need they wouldn't stay in business. Also, they're like Bass Pro (another favorite complaint target) in that they are not a firearms store...they are a sporting goods store. While you and I may ignore everything else and head straight for the handguns or ammo, there are enough other people who buy the other stuff they sell (and on which they generally do have good prices) that they do fine.

Buy stuff when it's on sale there, or when they have something unique, and they're quite good. Shop around, go where the prices are.

Springmom

hexidismal
October 15, 2007, 02:55 PM
I check in at gander mountain fairly often. In my area the prices are pretty high no matter where you go. The gander prices can be particularly so, but every so often I find something there in the used case thats an unusually good deal. Sometimes I wonder if it's becasue they lack the knowledge to know exactly what they have. For example, sometimes guns which might command a premium for whatever reason in the general market will get priced like a 'basic' version of that gun in the bluebook. K frame smiths are a good example. Prices on them seem to be going up in the popular market for whatever reasons, and yet I got a near perfect 66 not long ago at gander for $299. Another example in my collection from the past year is a chromed baby eagle I bought there that was a factory demo direct from magnum research. Gander had it marked according to the blue book value of a current common blued (or maybe even poly) model. I got that one in 99% condition for $349 I think. The point is, yes they are typically expensive, but it's certainly worth looking sometimes.. even if its because they make mistakes.

Also as a personal factor.. Gander Mountain is about 3.5 to 4 miles from me. The "good shops" are at least 30 mins to an hour away (not sure of mileage). When you drive a full size pickup truck as I do, the difference in gas use and mileage can be a major factor in considering pricing as well.

JohnBT
October 15, 2007, 03:46 PM
I'd move.

:D

Oohrah
October 15, 2007, 04:45 PM
No stores in my area, but have ordered from their catalog.
They are the only by mail it seems for B Square products!

JohnBT
October 15, 2007, 07:25 PM
How about...

www.swfa.com/showcategory.aspx?categoryid=51

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