Swapping barrels in order to thread them.


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tbarghest
October 15, 2007, 05:32 PM
Hi Everyone,

I was kicking around at impactguns, looking at what guns threaded barrels are available for and noticed there weren't many. Then I read on another thread here at THR that you could swap a Government length 1911 barrel onto a Commander size 1911 and have it threaded by a gunsmith.

Is this possible with Kahrs, Springfields, and other series that offer compact and full size versions? (or only 1911's) I think it would open up a lot of guns to suppression. Or is the cost prohibitory?

Peace and Good shooting,

T:cool:

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rcmodel
October 15, 2007, 05:59 PM
I can't see much point in putting a suppressor on any large caliber semi-auto pistol, unless it has some provision for locking the slide shut like the Vietnam era S&W Hush-Puppy, or later silenced Beretta 92 & the early HK SOCOM.

Noise escaping from the semi-auto action, plus action noise from the slide slamming back and forth would seem to defeat the purpose of a very expensive can, plus the $200 BATF tax stamp to get permission to even own one.

Course, I could be wrong, because my state won't even let us own one to find out!

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LiquidTension
October 16, 2007, 03:47 PM
9mm can be suppressed pretty well. The AAC Evolution-9 and the SWR Trident are my favorites. I've not been impressed with suppressed .45s, probably due to the fact that you've got such a large aperture for gas to escape from. They're hearing safe - which is half the purpose - but not super quiet. There are plenty of manufacturers making threaded barrels for pistols, no need to go putting a Govt model barrel in a Commander sized frame. Jarvis and KKM are the first to come to mind.

As far as being expensive, that's a matter of how you look at it. Once I get my Trident I'll be able to use it on my subgun, 9mm pistols, and 9mm AR upper. Three suppressed guns for under a thousand dollars including stamp. Not bad.

waterhouse
October 17, 2007, 02:02 PM
I would think it would work for most guns if there was a recoil booster that helped negate the weight issue. Not really sure though. I have a threaded Jarvis barrel for a USP compact that I'm pretty sure started out as a Jarvis barrel for a USP fullsize, but I can't swear to that.

I can't see much point in putting a suppressor on any large caliber semi-auto pistol, unless it has some provision for locking the slide shut like the Vietnam era S&W Hush-Puppy, or later silenced Beretta 92 & the early HK SOCOM.

Noise escaping from the semi-auto action, plus action noise from the slide slamming back and forth would seem to defeat the purpose of a very expensive can, plus the $200 BATF tax stamp to get permission to even own one.

The noise created by the slide slamming back and forth is so minuscule compared to an unsupressed round going off that you don't even notice. Try taking an unloaded autoloader and slingshotting the slide. Suppressed is just slightly louder than that. I can hear bullets impacting on the skin of a pumpkin. Unsuppressed, the threaded barrel HK would be one of my least shot guns (I prefer 1911s for .45). With the can on, it is one of my favorites to shoot. As far as I'm concerned the can was worth every penny.

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BEARMAN
October 17, 2007, 02:47 PM
I saw a demonstration of a .45 1911 with a silencer. The gun would only fire single shot and had to have the slide manually worked to load the next shot. It was thought that the weight of the can on the end of the barrel just kept the gun locked. A lighter recoil spring might have allowed it to function like normal. but then you would have a very light spring in the gun when the silencer was removed.

LiquidTension
October 17, 2007, 04:30 PM
Browning type pistols with tilting barrels need a recoil booster (Nielsen device, L.I.D., etc.) in order to cycle when used with a can. No need to use a lighter recoil spring.

RyanM
October 17, 2007, 05:42 PM
All I know for sure is that full size Glock barrels will not work in compact ones, but compact 4" barrels will work in subcompact guns. Something about the lockup angle, or something.

tbarghest
October 18, 2007, 06:58 PM
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I hope to hear even more!

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