Disposal of damaged ammunition


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Gingerbreadman
October 15, 2007, 11:27 PM
I recently had a box an Remington 7.62x39mm ammunition open up in my truck bed. One of the rounds had something heavy fall on it. Now I have a round sitting around with a wrinkled case and a dented bullet.

I want to know how to dispose of this thing safely so that I don't have to worry about it accidentally going off and hurting someone later.

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average_shooter
October 15, 2007, 11:29 PM
Pull the bullet, dump the powder in the grass and put a couple drops of oil into the primer. That'll kill it good.

After that all it is is a choking hazard, if you have kids.

Hot brass
October 15, 2007, 11:30 PM
Pull the bullet, dispose of powder.

Jorg Nysgerrig
October 15, 2007, 11:30 PM
Either drop it in the dud box at the local range, or pull the bullet, dump the powder and toss it.

tank mechanic
October 15, 2007, 11:34 PM
And just chucking that baby in the trash is a huge hazard because...:scrutiny:

Gingerbreadman
October 15, 2007, 11:43 PM
Its a hazard for me since I have to burn my garbage.....

tank mechanic
October 15, 2007, 11:53 PM
I am sorry, I didn't mean to come off too coarse Gingerbreadman. It just seemed like a little bit of overkill with the sugestions.

Welcome to the high road.

Neo-Luddite
October 16, 2007, 12:01 AM
My sollution--yes, a lazy one. I put such defective and unsafe ammo in a box labeled 'unsafe to use'. My concern is, what if I died tomorrow? I also, if one of my guns is under repair or therwise not safe to use, tag it clearly with a note. No one lives forever, why take the chance.

I'm tempted to say save em up and turn them in at a 'gun buyback'--pass the buck to the 'doo gooders'. But no, pull the projectile (if safe to do so) as said, etc.

Zangetsu
October 16, 2007, 12:08 AM
Spray it down with WD40 and it'll ruin the primer. After you do that, rip it apart and do whatever seems safe and as long as you didn't ride the short bus to school you'll be ok :)

never_retreat
October 16, 2007, 12:29 AM
If you put it in the dud box at the range what do you think will happen to it?
Magic dud fairies come and take them apart?
Pop them apart your self and burn the powder.

RNB65
October 16, 2007, 12:32 AM
I'd toss it in the trashcan and let it spend eternity in the county landfill. But that's just me. I also run with scissors and stick screwdrivers into electrical outlets occasionally. :eek:

pete f
October 16, 2007, 12:51 AM
if you have a vise, grab the bullet in the jaws and use pliers on the case, just wiggle a bit and it will come loose, powder will spill out, sweep it up and dump it on the grass, good fertilizer, toss the other componenets

MilsurpShooter
October 16, 2007, 12:17 PM
Pull the bullet, scatter the powder. I usually make little gunpowder lines and light them like you see in the movies, but that's the pyro in me. Take some WD-40 or other oil, few drops into the case, stand it on end for the night and there ya go. At least that's what I do.

ceetee
October 16, 2007, 12:32 PM
Use the powder in it to light the rest of your trash on fire?

iiibdsiil
October 16, 2007, 01:16 PM
Just hit it with a hammer, hard! :p

Welcome to THR!

damien
October 16, 2007, 02:10 PM
Bury it.

CajunTim
October 16, 2007, 04:18 PM
As they are trained to handle hazardous material if you aren't wanting to pull it a part.

Throw it in the trash it is only something that has killed millions of people through out time. That has to be the most irresponsible comment I have read on any gun board yet. It should be rendered useless before being discarded.

trueblue1776
October 16, 2007, 04:23 PM
Throw it really far.

Bring it to the local PD? That's too funny.

CajunTim
October 16, 2007, 06:37 PM
Yeah the overpaid under worked guys that sit at a desk bring it to them. Call the EPA and ask what to do with it and they will tell you to call the cops. I've had cops come and pick the stuff up. What do you think was done with all the ammo that flooded during Katrina? As a contractor demolishing houses we had the cops come pick the stuff up. The conversation went like this "About 10lbs of various ammo that is now considered unstable is sitting on the curb at such and such location it will be awaiting your arrival".

http://www.epa.sa.gov.au/pdfs/info_hhw.pdf
Page 6 under Boat Flares

brickeyee
October 16, 2007, 06:42 PM
"About 10lbs of various ammo that is now considered unstable is sitting on the curb at such and such location it will be awaiting your arrival".


Water does not make ammo "unstable", it just may not go bang.
Unless it was under water for a decent amount of time (months to years) it likely is just fine.

Geronimo45
October 16, 2007, 07:11 PM
Throw it in the trash it is only something that has killed millions of people through out time.
Millions? You're dealing with brass cases, lead bullets, and a fairly small powder charge, not mortar rounds or shells full of Sarin gas.

Bartkowski
October 16, 2007, 08:01 PM
Throw it in the trash it is only something that has killed millions of people through out time.

Just wondering why I haven't heard this one before.



I just throw my dud ammo, far away from me.

2TransAms
October 16, 2007, 08:04 PM
I asked this same question a long time ago and got flamed for being a pansy. In fact, I was told that safety-Nazis like me were the reason that our 2A rights were under fire. So never mind the nay-sayers.

Put it in the dud box where it's no longer your problem or throw it in a lake where it'll be long dead before someone drags it up.

Or,y'know,just pull the bullet.

Rustynuts
October 16, 2007, 08:13 PM
Throw it in the trash it is only something that has killed millions of people through out time.

Pretty much disproven by Mythbusters. They cooked off a bunch of ammo in a stove (had to get around 450+ degrees before it went, so don't worry about car storage!). Due to a little thing called conservation of momentum, the bullet basically goes nowhere cause it's heavy. You might get a bruise from the case flying around, but not killed. The cartridge needs to be anchored (as in a gun barrel) for the bullet to turn into a projectile.

230RN
October 17, 2007, 01:09 AM
Puplicate dost.

230RN
October 17, 2007, 01:11 AM
Yeah, bring it to the PD.

Name?
Address?
Date of Birth?
Mother's Maiden name?
US Citizen?
Where did you get it?
Do you have many guns?
Do you shoot often?
Do you keep a gun in the car?

Just yank the bullet, scatter the powder on the grass, WD-40 the case and primer, wrap it up with the bullet and chuck 'em in the trash ashes. I don't think the tiny amount of lead triggers any "hazardous waste" laws.

Everybody ought to have an inertial bullet puller, by the way.

skeeter1
October 17, 2007, 02:55 AM
If you can do it safely, pull the bullets, sprinkle the powder out in the flower garden (it's an excellent fertilizer), and spray the primers from the inside with WD-40. That will kill them.

qajaq59
October 17, 2007, 06:50 AM
Bring it to the local PD? That's too funny. Maybe it depends on where you live? But in CT they will get rid of old or bad ammo quite willingly.

Primersinmyshoe
October 17, 2007, 07:14 AM
Put it in a metal coffee can and fill with concrete. Toss in trash.

trueblue1776
October 17, 2007, 07:25 AM
I'm amazed that so many folks would put any effort into this, why not just pop it in the trash, or throw it into the lake/woods/field/storm-drain? I am a lazy man, but seriously, it's not a hand grenade. I'd give it to the local gun shop before I bothered the cops with it.

tank mechanic
October 17, 2007, 09:11 PM
Maybe it depends on where you live? But in CT they will get rid of old or bad ammo quite willingly.

That is because as soon as you walk out the door they throw it in the trash.

BullsEye10x
October 17, 2007, 11:26 PM
To the OP -
Did you say you had a smooshed up 7.62 x 39 ???
I have a simple, two step solution:
1. Get or borrow one working AK or SKS variant chambered in afforementioned caliber
2. Load offending cartridge into said weapon and FIRE IT (be sure to police spent casing)!

AK's and their cousins are a lot of things, but they are most definitely NOT picky eaters :D

jobu07
October 17, 2007, 11:53 PM
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot39.htm

WD-40 and other oils on the primers won't do much.

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